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Reply 17440 of 52737, by kanecvr

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hard1k wrote:

Yes, it will work in 3,3V slots - that has already been tested and confirmed.

But what's the point? I tried my 6800 in my 1.4 GHz tualatin and it still can't play some 1999 games at 1600x1200 / 60fps - in fact the framerate jumps between 20 and 100 fps so quick it makes my head spin (Dungeon Keeper 2 / 1600x1200 / high / 32 bit color). It's kind of wasted on a machine that only uses 3.3v AGP 2x.

I got similar results with an Asus GF4 Ti 4600 and a FX 5900 Ultra, so I'm sticking with a ti 4200 in that machine.

Reply 17441 of 52737, by hard1k

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No point, of course 😀
Just for fun, as 99% of our hobby...

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Reply 17442 of 52737, by cyclone3d

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kanecvr wrote:
hard1k wrote:

Yes, it will work in 3,3V slots - that has already been tested and confirmed.

But what's the point? I tried my 6800 in my 1.4 GHz tualatin and it still can't play some 1999 games at 1600x1200 / 60fps - in fact the framerate jumps between 20 and 100 fps so quick it makes my head spin (Dungeon Keeper 2 / 1600x1200 / high / 32 bit color). It's kind of wasted on a machine that only uses 3.3v AGP 2x.

I got similar results with an Asus GF4 Ti 4600 and a FX 5900 Ultra, so I'm sticking with a ti 4200 in that machine.

Well, if you have something like an Abit KT7A or Abit KT7A-Raid which can run Barton processors with a modded BIOS and jumpered socket pins to get the higher multipliers and max out around 2.4-2.5Ghz, then it might be interesting to see how it would perform.

I'm guessing it would be hampered by the SDRAM throughput though. An interesting experiment nonetheless.

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Reply 17443 of 52737, by matcarfer

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Bought myself a rather special GeForce 7950 GT card. […]
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Bought myself a rather special GeForce 7950 GT card.

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What makes this special is I researched and confirmed the model # (and seller confirmed it on the sticker): this is XFX's "XXX" edition 512MB 7950 GT. The fastest stock-clocked 7950 GT that was made. Comes with stock clocks of 610 Mhz core / 1600 Mhz ram. nVidia reference clocks for the 7950 GT are 550 core / 1400 ram.

And the reason I bought this instead of a 7800 GTX? because almost all of the 7800 & 7900 GTX models are OEM's out of dell or something and they all seem to be not working in ebay, or the ones that are listed as used and not "as-is", are bulk sellers that just strip down 100 machines and stick em on ebay without testing to see if they work. I've messaged multiple sellers with "used" OEM-Looking 7800 GTX's and 7900 GTX's and they all write back "No testing performed, 30 day return warranty though!" just dun wanna screw with it. Also they want like $35 and up for 7800/7900's that may or may not work. This is almost 7900 GTX clocks, and faster than the 7800 GTX *just slightly*, and the seller confirmed to me in ebay messages he both tested it works and tried installing drivers and tested it in aquamark3d and said it passed and has no issues. Plus seller accepted my offer of $20, free shipping.

So after buying 6 different 7800 GTX series quadro cards from 6 different sellers over the course of 2016 and into 2017, fingers crossed I can finally get a working high-end 7000 series card. I do plan to find a way to mount a fan on this thing though. I may even try to see if I can mount one of these big heatpipe coolers off one of my dead 7800GTX-Quadro cards on it too if the holes line up. Might have to splice wires with the cables and fan connectors to get the fan to work with the power connector on this card to power it though. We'll see.. either way, I'm not running this thing fanless.

Main reason I want this card is to try slightly later modified drivers and see if I can get this to work in my 5-Ghz Pentium4 Windows98 PCI-E machine.

Really love this card.

Reply 17444 of 52737, by havli

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cyclone3d wrote:

Well, if you have something like an Abit KT7A or Abit KT7A-Raid which can run Barton processors with a modded BIOS and jumpered socket pins to get the higher multipliers and max out around 2.4-2.5Ghz, then it might be interesting to see how it would perform.

I'm guessing it would be hampered by the SDRAM throughput though. An interesting experiment nonetheless.

For these boards however you don't need 3.3V compatible GF 6800, as they will run the regular AGP 4x / 1.5V just fine.
As a matter of fact I did some benchmarks using 2.4GHz XP-M Barton on KT133A (FSB 266) and the same on NF2 Ultra (FSB 480).... and the result is NF2 is by 63% faster in games.

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Reply 17445 of 52737, by LHN91

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Small purchase, but I picked up an S3 Trio 64V+ PCI with I believe 2 MB onboard from the recycler's yesterday. They had 3-4 PII and PIII Dell machines and a P1 IBM machine, along with a bunch of random PII and PIII machines, mostly Slot 1 machines with ISA, but I really can't afford the space or time right now.

The S3 card will probably end up in a Win 95 or DOS/Win3.1 machine.

Reply 17446 of 52737, by appiah4

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Saw a Sound Blaster 16 listed locally so I grabbed it for $7. I now have three SB16s, the other two being a CT2290 and a CT2890. From what I can make of the blurry mobile phone photo of the thing, this one is a CT2980. Apparently that's a Vibra16 without OPL even though the chip on it doesn't say Vibra anywhere (CT2502-SDQ). Not sure if I bought something half-good or a useless piece of junk, but it is an addition to my growing heap of 16-bit ISA sound cards. If anyone can tell me about this card I'd be happy to hear about it.

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Reply 17447 of 52737, by kanecvr

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cyclone3d wrote:
kanecvr wrote:
hard1k wrote:

Yes, it will work in 3,3V slots - that has already been tested and confirmed.

But what's the point? I tried my 6800 in my 1.4 GHz tualatin and it still can't play some 1999 games at 1600x1200 / 60fps - in fact the framerate jumps between 20 and 100 fps so quick it makes my head spin (Dungeon Keeper 2 / 1600x1200 / high / 32 bit color). It's kind of wasted on a machine that only uses 3.3v AGP 2x.

I got similar results with an Asus GF4 Ti 4600 and a FX 5900 Ultra, so I'm sticking with a ti 4200 in that machine.

Well, if you have something like an Abit KT7A or Abit KT7A-Raid which can run Barton processors with a modded BIOS and jumpered socket pins to get the higher multipliers and max out around 2.4-2.5Ghz, then it might be interesting to see how it would perform.

I'm guessing it would be hampered by the SDRAM throughput though. An interesting experiment nonetheless.

.... the VIA KT133 has Universal AGP 4x witch can run at either 1.5v or 3.3v... The only 3.3v AGP boards are Slot 1 / Super 7 and some early socket 370...

Reply 17448 of 52737, by The Serpent Rider

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kanecvr wrote:

The only 3.3v AGP boards are Slot 1 / Super 7 and some early socket 370...

Actually not only those listed. There are Slot A boards with AMD 750 chipset which work with 3.3v only too. But we all know how Slot A is rare in general and how it is unpractical to use this platform.

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Reply 17449 of 52737, by Carlos S. M.

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The Serpent Rider wrote:
kanecvr wrote:

The only 3.3v AGP boards are Slot 1 / Super 7 and some early socket 370...

Actually not only those listed. There are Slot A boards with AMD 750 chipset which work with 3.3v only too. But we all know how Slot A is rare in general and how it is unpractical to use this platform.

I can confirm at least 1 Socket 462 board with 3.3v AGP exists, The Gigabyte GA-7IXE4, is the only Socket A motherboard featuring the AMD 750 chipset, supports Thunderbird based Athlons and Splitfire Durons, Morgan Durons are supported as well with BIOS update

Socket 370 depends on the chipset, VIA Apollo Pro+/693, Apollo Pro133/693A and the Intel 440BX boards only does 3.3v AGPs and there are later boards using these chipsets, Slot 1 with Universal AGP is possible too if is equiped with a newer chipset like the VIA Apollo Pro 133A/694X or the Intel 815/820/840

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Reply 17450 of 52737, by cyclone3d

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kanecvr wrote:

.... the VIA KT133 has Universal AGP 4x witch can run at either 1.5v or 3.3v... The only 3.3v AGP boards are Slot 1 / Super 7 and some early socket 370...

So it is, for some reason I was thinking it was 2x only.

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Reply 17451 of 52737, by KCompRoom2000

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I bought a few things on eBay and they all came in the mail today.

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Paid a total of $29.87 for all of this, the pictured items are:
- A spare slotket for my P6-Celeron rig (the older kind for Mendocino and Coppermine CPUs for those who were wondering)
- Two nVidia Geforce4MX 440 (P117) 64MB AGP Video Cards (one of them is now in my Dimension 4300S)
- A replacement Dell USB/Audio front panel board for the Dimension 4300S
- An extra Dell USB header cable (for the Optiplex GX260 motherboard that I'm using for a testbench rig)

Had a pretty busy day getting two of those pictured parts installed. 😵

Reply 17452 of 52737, by kanecvr

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Carlos S. M. wrote:
The Serpent Rider wrote:
kanecvr wrote:

The only 3.3v AGP boards are Slot 1 / Super 7 and some early socket 370...

Actually not only those listed. There are Slot A boards with AMD 750 chipset which work with 3.3v only too. But we all know how Slot A is rare in general and how it is unpractical to use this platform.

I can confirm at least 1 Socket 462 board with 3.3v AGP exists, The Gigabyte GA-7IXE4, is the only Socket A motherboard featuring the AMD 750 chipset, supports Thunderbird based Athlons and Splitfire Durons, Morgan Durons are supported as well with BIOS update

Socket 370 depends on the chipset, VIA Apollo Pro+/693, Apollo Pro133/693A and the Intel 440BX boards only does 3.3v AGPs and there are later boards using these chipsets, Slot 1 with Universal AGP is possible too if is equiped with a newer chipset like the VIA Apollo Pro 133A/694X or the Intel 815/820/840

I see no point in using such an odd board when there are a plethora of KT400/KT600/KT880 and nforce motherboards available for barton CPUs - and they provide DDR400, USB 2.0, SATA and other conveniences. Not to mention they are significantly faster.

Reply 17454 of 52737, by brostenen

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Just recieved this. Not shure if it is NOS, yet I have a feeling that it is. For a new and never used Amiga mouse, it is an ok price.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Amiga-mouse-All-Amiga … woAAOSwvKtY-w2Z

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Those cakes make you sick....

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Reply 17455 of 52737, by appiah4

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Noname (?) 440LX (?) Slot 1 Motherboard

I think that's a 440BX based board, only found this one ofter a little searching: https://sprzedajemy.pl/plyta-glowna-agp-set-f … 10c9-nr17586082

The board has the PIIX4E (FW82371EB) southbridge, 440LX were paired whith PIIX4 southbridge.

Oh! Just noticed this reply, sorry. This is good news. Board will be here tomorrow, I will verify and report back.

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Reply 17456 of 52737, by The Serpent Rider

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Bought original Radeon256 64 mb DDR VIVO. Just in case some certain Youtube review will cause "OMG it's Radeon256!" effect with massive overpricing 😈 Apparently it's 183mhz version.

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Reply 17457 of 52737, by spiroyster

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brostenen wrote:

Just recieved this. Not shure if it is NOS, yet I have a feeling that it is. For a new and never used Amiga mouse, it is an ok price.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Amiga-mouse-All-Amiga … woAAOSwvKtY-w2Z

That doesn't look like a tank... 😈

Reply 17459 of 52737, by brostenen

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spiroyster wrote:

That doesn't look like a tank... 😈

Yeah I know... It is not a tank mouse.
Tank mice, came with the OCS machines and some early models of ECS. (yet shipped standard with 500+)
Later A600's and AGA machines came with a more rounded and modern mouse.

On the mouse. Yup, it is an official amiga mouse that came with Amiga Technologies A1200.
http://www.bigbookofamigahardware.com/bboah/p … oduct.aspx?id=3

The Commodore A1200 had a different mouse... Wich were the one on the later A600 too.
http://www.oldsoftware.com/softimg9/a-mouse2.jpg

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