Must resist making Skeletor my new avatar 🤣

TheAbandonwareGuy wrote:

KCompRoom2000 wrote:

So, I bought an nVidia Geforce4Ti 4200 128MB AGP video card at a price that was worth the gamble, it came today.

I took the time to test it, unfortunately, it has screen artifacts, I've tried both VGA and DVI outputs and I tested the card in two different computers (which are my Dell Dimension 4600 and my Athlon 64 rig with an ASUS A8V motherboard).

I bought this card to use as a spare for my Windows 98 build just in case I ever saw the need for an nVidia GPU (for things like table fog and 8-bit paletted textures), but it turned out to have technical difficulties. Assuming the seller will let me keep it upon refund, I wonder which area is to blame, the RAM chips, the GPU chip, or the missing pin gap on the AGP connector.

It's a Gateway OEM btw. My X700 which was there entry level performance tower in 2002 had the same model.

I knew that, I was a little devastated to find that it didn't work properly, thankfully the seller gave me a refund and I bought another Geforce4 Ti4200 to replace it. The replacement card came today, I tested it in the Dell, gave it three passes in Video Memory Stress Test, and it actually works. The two differences are the working one has 64MB of RAM instead of 128MB (not a problem for me since I'm using it as a backup card for 9x games), and it's actively cooled (the old broken one has a passive cooler, as shown in the pictures a few pages ago).

When I removed the heatsink on the broken (passively cooled 128MB) one, I noticed a transistor broke off, I guess that's what was causing it to artifact.

KCompRoom2000 wrote:

TheAbandonwareGuy wrote:

KCompRoom2000 wrote:

So, I bought an nVidia Geforce4Ti 4200 128MB AGP video card at a price that was worth the gamble, it came today.

I took the time to test it, unfortunately, it has screen artifacts, I've tried both VGA and DVI outputs and I tested the card in two different computers (which are my Dell Dimension 4600 and my Athlon 64 rig with an ASUS A8V motherboard).

I bought this card to use as a spare for my Windows 98 build just in case I ever saw the need for an nVidia GPU (for things like table fog and 8-bit paletted textures), but it turned out to have technical difficulties. Assuming the seller will let me keep it upon refund, I wonder which area is to blame, the RAM chips, the GPU chip, or the missing pin gap on the AGP connector.

It's a Gateway OEM btw. My X700 which was there entry level performance tower in 2002 had the same model.

I knew that, I was a little devastated to find that it didn't work properly, thankfully the seller gave me a refund and I bought another Geforce4 Ti4200 to replace it. The replacement card came today, I tested it in the Dell, gave it three passes in Video Memory Stress Test, and it actually works. The two differences are the working one has 64MB of RAM instead of 128MB (not a problem for me since I'm using it as a backup card for 9x games), and it's actively cooled (the old broken one has a passive cooler, as shown in the pictures a few pages ago).

When I removed the heatsink on the broken (passively cooled 128MB) one, I noticed a transistor broke off, I guess that's what was causing it to artifact.

Yeah MSI makes the card btw. It's 100 percent identical to my retail MSI 4200 in every way except that mine has 64MB, I think. I admit I didn't pay it much attenting since I considered it underpowered for the tower it came out of - a 2.4GHz Prescott RD-RAM system and it's passive cooled.

This popped up for sale at at acceptable to me price.

Yummy! Genuine OPL3 with a CS4232 chipset is a beautiful thing.

No love for soundcards on my side but the condition of the box, the contents and the overall presentation... Nice catch!

cyclone3d wrote:

This popped up for sale at at acceptable to me price.

Nice find!

Myself, got a V5 (sealed). No, not the same copy which sold for over 2k recently.

rikukos wrote:

No, not the same copy which sold for over 2k recently.

2k is the going rate for these nowadays? Wow, people are crazy. I should sell all of my 3dfx gear asap... 😁

Beautiful addition by the way.

dionb wrote:

Picked up two motherboards with cards and a keyboard this afternoon: […]
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Picked up two motherboards with cards and a keyboard this afternoon:

MSI MS-6168v2 - another i440BX uATX + Voodoo3 onboard. This one has the exact same cap burst as the last one.
- P3-500 Katmai
- Matrox MGA100 OEM
- CIS WS-5614HSMG (Win)modem
- 2x 128MB "DIMM" noname memory. Riight...

Tyan S1846 Tsunami - i440BX, awful AMI WinBIOS, but the most ATAPI Removable Media options I have ever seen
- P2-350 Deschutes
- "EPC-C4DWV810" PCI sound card with Trident 4DWave-DX chip
- yet another Realtek RTL8139C 10/100 card - Skeletor has obviously had enough of these... 😉
- 64 and 128MB SIMMs, at least one of which is iffy

Digital R14958TWGR PS/2 keyboard. Decent enough rubber-dome thing, with QWERTZ-layout to emphasise the fact that anyone touching my computers really needs to learn to type blind 😜

SKELETOR MASTER RACE

Did some shopping on a recent trip to the mainland. Got a Yamaha FB-01 off Craigslist for my Yamaha synth rig and a couple interesting video cards (with annoying SFF brackets, but I'll figure something out) from Vancouver FreeGeek.

The left one is a Matrox G550 with a DMS-59 connector, and luckily they had dual-DVI *and* VGA dongles in their bin of random cables. The right one is a 256MB PCI FirePro 2260 with dual DisplayPort - never seen that before, so I grabbed it. I have an interesting board on the way I can use it in. They were cheap.

To be honest, I wanted a PCI G550 but between the two of them I've sort-of got that. 😜

xjas wrote:

Did some shopping on a recent trip to the mainland. Got a Yamaha FB-01 off Craigslist for my Yamaha synth rig and a couple inter […]
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Did some shopping on a recent trip to the mainland. Got a Yamaha FB-01 off Craigslist for my Yamaha synth rig and a couple interesting video cards (with annoying SFF brackets, but I'll figure something out) from Vancouver FreeGeek.

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The left one is a Matrox G550 with a DMS-59 connector, and luckily they had dual-DVI *and* VGA dongles in their bin of random cables. The right one is a 256MB PCI FirePro 2260 with dual DisplayPort - never seen that before, so I grabbed it. I have an interesting board on the way I can use it in. They were cheap.

To be honest, I wanted a PCI G550 but between the two of them I've sort-of got that. 😜

Don't trash those low-profile brackets. For every person like you looking to use them in a full-height system there's somebody with a low-profile system desperately looking for something that fits...

^^ Yeah I'll hang on to them, I've got a tool bin full of brackets. I likely have a full-size one that'll fit the Matrox already & I can make one for the ATI with a bit of drilling & filing.

The FirePro (FireMV??) is an interesting card, from what I can tell it's the rough equivalent of a Radeon HD3450. RV620 GPU, DX10.1 / OGL3.3 & supports quad monitors through the dual displayport outputs. Wonder how badly they gimped it to fit on the PCI bus?

Not your average post.

Picked up an old late 90's server rack for my home lab. I need a Proliant 7000-series server to put in it to replicate my first "real" I.T. job...

This was by FAR the most difficult retro purchase to get in the house...

keropi wrote:

@liqmat
post some pics of the card/software in action 😀

After days of imaging, photographing and scanning I am happy to report the Cardinal SNAPplus complete archive is done and up @ -0°. Considering there was very little info and zero files for this card online this should cover collectors/preservationists who want to archive or use this card. It usually shows up on Ebay all by its lonely without any cables, docs or software. The cables are standard 4-pin S-Video/composite at one end, but 8-pin proprietary at the other. Luckily the manual has the pin outs so someone with some know-how could possibly build a cable if they really wanted to. The file rings in at 220MB and the user's manual was a pain to scan because of the way it was bound, but it came out very decent all things considered.

http://minuszerodegrees.net/manuals.htm#Cardinal

Will try to get a video together here shortly demonstrating how it works as well. May be a week or two before that all happens. One interesting thing I discovered is when I owned this card back in the day when I was doing video work the SNAPplus came with a super advanced MS-DOS graphics package called Mathematica Tempra. Unfortunately this SNAPplus did not come with Tempra. The SNAPplus I have now looks to be a very late, probably last and latest, revision card and dropped the DOS software. So I found a sealed copy of Mathematica Tempra Pro and that is on the way. It allows you to stream video in DOS via a capture card while you overlay graphics and animation on top to a second VCR. Incredibly advanced software for DOS at the time and it really was a pleasure to work with. The workflow was super slick. Looking forward to firing that up when it arrives.

Won this auction a couple of days ago (only bidder), for $38. It's a Super Micro P6DBE. I was going to shoot for a dual PII 450 setup, but decided to go with a dual 400 instead, seeing as I already have a PII 400. Found another PII 400 on ebay with a matching heatsink, for $12.

(Seller's photo)

liqmat wrote:

https://archive.org/details/CardinalSNAPplusCompleteArchive

Will you be uploading to vogonsdrivers as well? I think that will be easier for some users to find.

Downloading the zip file to add to my drivers library now. Thanks. I don't have the card yet, but always download obscure video drivers when I see them 😀

dionb wrote:

Picked up two motherboards with cards and a keyboard this afternoon: […]
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Picked up two motherboards with cards and a keyboard this afternoon:

MSI MS-6168v2 - another i440BX uATX + Voodoo3 onboard. This one has the exact same cap burst as the last one.
- P3-500 Katmai
- Matrox MGA100 OEM
- CIS WS-5614HSMG (Win)modem
- 2x 128MB "DIMM" noname memory. Riight...

Tyan S1846 Tsunami - i440BX, awful AMI WinBIOS, but the most ATAPI Removable Media options I have ever seen
- P2-350 Deschutes
- "EPC-C4DWV810" PCI sound card with Trident 4DWave-DX chip
- yet another Realtek RTL8139C 10/100 card - Skeletor has obviously had enough of these... 😉
- 64 and 128MB SIMMs, at least one of which is iffy

Digital R14958TWGR PS/2 keyboard. Decent enough rubber-dome thing, with QWERTZ-layout to emphasise the fact that anyone touching my computers really needs to learn to type blind 😜

I see you also drink red wine while assembling computers 😉

I got some more 386 CPUs for my collection: SX, EX, and CX.

@liqmat, nice find/save on the SNAPPlus and archive. Funny you should mention Tempra as I came across my old copy the other day when sorting thru some floppies - the one I have shipped with the Hercules Graphics Station card I used some time in the late 80s / early 90s

debs3759 wrote:

liqmat wrote:

https://archive.org/details/CardinalSNAPplusCompleteArchive

Will you be uploading to vogonsdrivers as well? I think that will be easier for some users to find.

Downloading the zip file to add to my drivers library now. Thanks. I don't have the card yet, but always download obscure video drivers when I see them 😀

Don't have an account there, but if you are up to the task, by all means, please throw it up there. Taking it from complete obscurity to high availability will only help other collectors and presevationists in the future.

PC Hoarder Patrol wrote:

@liqmat, nice find/save on the SNAPPlus and archive. Funny you should mention Tempra as I came across my old copy the other day when sorting thru some floppies - the one I have shipped with the Hercules Graphics Station card I used some time in the late 80s / early 90s

Oh man, I exclusivly used Tempra for all my video titling and graphics overlay work. It was so well designed. The fact I could have video coming into Tempra, do my graphic overlays and record it in realtime to a second VCR in DOS on a 386 SX/25 was really incredible at the time. Definitely image your copy as Tempra is not so easy to find anymore.

Got this L1N64-SLI WS/B in a few days ago.