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Bought these (retro) hardware today

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Reply 12560 of 52886, by brostenen

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Nothing an ISA Ram Upgradecard won't fix. 😉

Don't eat stuff off a 15 year old never cleaned cpu cooler.
Those cakes make you sick....

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Reply 12561 of 52886, by Imperious

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stamasd wrote:

That XT clone looks nice, but it appears to only have 576kB RAM (256kx2 + 64k)

There are 4 4464's there to the left of the lower bank. At least I found out this 512k Western Digital VGA card works
in a 8 bit slot, unlike the Trident 9000i-3 that I have. Now I'll have to get to work building the CF-IDE lite card I got a
couple of months ago.
I'm really only interested in experiencing early IBM PC games with this, I have a 486 that covers up to the mid nineties.

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PC's from XT 8088, 486, Pentium MMX, K6, Athlon, P3, P4, 775, to current Ryzen 5600x.

Reply 12562 of 52886, by brostenen

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Hehe..... That old funny joke: "KEYBOARD ERROR" + "Press <F1> to RESUME". 🤣

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Those cakes make you sick....

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Reply 12563 of 52886, by nforce4max

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Jade Falcon wrote:
If you freeze the heat sink and or card then that take a screw driver to the card it will come clean off. I done that plenty of […]
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candle_86 wrote:
I'm hoping its a Voodoo Banshee, I think it is […]
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I'm hoping its a Voodoo Banshee, I think it is

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Got from ebay

It is and do not try to remove the cooler or you will break it, I had two of this exact card and destroyed one. The thermal epoxy used is very different from the white stuff and it is Strong! Try to remove it and you will crack the plastic encapsulation and kill the gpu. Gateway sold a few of these in their systems but it is made by ELSA (I think) so it is of good quality but still gets scorching hot so just add a fan.

If you freeze the heat sink and or card then that take a screw driver to the card it will come clean off.
I done that plenty of times on 3dfx cards.

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Go ahead I dare you to get this one card yourself and try it, the epoxy used is very different from all the others and it is a dark gray color. Freezing didn't even work 😲

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Reply 12564 of 52886, by stamasd

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Imperious wrote:
stamasd wrote:

That XT clone looks nice, but it appears to only have 576kB RAM (256kx2 + 64k)

There are 4 4464's there to the left of the lower bank.

Oh yeah I see them now. The markings are pretty blurred in the picture, the only one that shows clearly is the lower chip which is 4164 - for parity I guess.

I/O, I/O,
It's off to disk I go,
With a bit and a byte
And a read and a write,
I/O, I/O

Reply 12568 of 52886, by Kahenraz

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Scored my first LAPC-I. Been watching this auction for a while and finally tempted the seller to accept a best-offer. Considering what these have been selling for, I don't know how managed to win this one. I don't know if it's visible but I won it for a $180 counter-offer, which was still excellent.

Still need the port accessory though. 😀

http://www.ebay.com/itm/172246989156

Reply 12569 of 52886, by brostenen

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Kahenraz wrote:

Scored my first LAPC-I. Been watching this auction for a while and finally tempted the seller to accept a best-offer. Considering what these have been selling for, I don't know how managed to win this one. I don't know if it's visible but I won it for a $180 counter-offer, which was still excellent.

Still need the port accessory though. 😀

http://www.ebay.com/itm/172246989156

Congrats. 😀 Personally I am amazed by the fact that people spend that much on this hobby.
You won't by any chance be an musician? You know... Use it productivity-wise.

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Reply 12571 of 52886, by Kahenraz

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brostenen wrote:

Congrats. 😀 Personally I am amazed by the fact that people spend that much on this hobby.

It was expensive but both these cards and the CM-32L modules are getting so rare. And for this price I feel confident that it can easily be passed on to another collector if need be.

I already own a Roland SCC-1 and a CM-32L so I'm planning on simply restoring this unit and packaging it for some future build. I'd like to design and build a nice custom case for a retro build at some point in my life of which this card will be a part of.

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Cool. Hope it works.

Yes, me too. 🤣

I feel confident that I can recap it if necessary.

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The CT2230 comes with a Creative CD-ROM, audio / IDE cables for $20

You're always downsizing though. I suppose you can save an IDE port? I worry about the reliability CD-ROM drives.

Reply 12573 of 52886, by Arctic

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candle_86 wrote:
I'm hoping its a Voodoo Banshee, I think it is […]
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I'm hoping its a Voodoo Banshee, I think it is

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Got from ebay

This card is a Banshee build by Ensoniq before the company was taken over by Creative in 1998.

I bought the same model a while ago, as "new old bulk stock" on ebay.
The card that I've bought already came with a Creative 3D Blaster manual and the Ensoniq writing is still on the card - awesome!

Reply 12574 of 52886, by Jade Falcon

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nforce4max wrote:

Go ahead I dare you to get this one card yourself and try it, the epoxy used is very different from all the others and it is a dark gray color. Freezing didn't even work 😲

I all ready have on 3 of them, and I am aware the banshee's use a different epoxy.
If it does not just pop off then heat the heat sink up fallowed by a freeze.
If your putting the card in the freezer shame on you :p

Reply 12575 of 52886, by gdjacobs

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chose007 wrote:
Today some new gold park at me. First Pentium and some LSI cpus? Dont know what is it. […]
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Today some new gold park at me. First Pentium and some LSI cpus? Dont know what is it.

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I suspect those LSI chips might be custom ASICs made for Sequent Computer.

All hail the Great Capacitor Brand Finder

Reply 12576 of 52886, by rick6

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Took a gamble and bought a dead MSI Geforce 4 ti 4200 128MB for 5€. (3€ for the card and 2€ for shipping)

It looks like this, apart from the fact that mine has 2 or 3 blades missing from the fan
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I didn't knew that this was going to be more than i bargained for, because i was expecting that the seller was wrong, or did something wrong on his test ^^ (if this was the case i would make it fair and probably pay him the right amount)

The reason why the card didn't work was obvious after a 30 second inspection.

Dead mosfet, can you spot it?
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I didn't have anything equivalent to it, so i took a mosfet from dead hardware i had laying around with more or less similar specs and bodge it to the card (also the old dead mosfet can be seen on the cardboard):
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Tried again and it worked!! I was so happy 😁
Still something was off..."geForce...raM.."
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So bad news, i had bad card with artifacts 🙁
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Also, after installing the drivers, the card couldn't even boot to windows with so many artifacts and it crashed always.
So in a last attempt i decided to do a cheap reflow of the GPU. Got a bit of tinfoil and made a window for the GPU, protecting everything else on the card from the heat. Got my heatgun and blasted it for about 2 minutes.
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And it worked 😁
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It was risky but quite worth. Got a MSI Geforce 4 TI 4200 128MB for 5€! Still i don't really believe this reflow of the GPU will last long if i use the card too much (everyday use and gaming).

Even so, i'll acquire the right mosfet for the card and probably a new fan on ebay for cheap if i can.

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Reply 12577 of 52886, by stamasd

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Not only it will not last long, but the more times you repeat it the worse the card will get, until it completely breaks down and can't be fixed anymore. Don't ask me how I know.

I/O, I/O,
It's off to disk I go,
With a bit and a byte
And a read and a write,
I/O, I/O

Reply 12578 of 52886, by rick6

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stamasd wrote:

Not only it will not last long, but the more times you repeat it the worse the card will get, until it completely breaks down and can't be fixed anymore. Don't ask me how I know.

Oh yes, been there, done that 😁 Guess that's what you get when you dont do a proper reball and use a real rework station.
But let's see, sometimes this is random, it can break the next day, or can last a year or even more. I'm using a laptop right now and my cousion is using his video card both fixed cheaply this way and they're still working after a year. In contrast, my Geforce 6600GT and ATI 9800pro didn't last a week. Since i'm going to store more the card rather than use it, i can last a while hopefuly.

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Reply 12579 of 52886, by nforce4max

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Those reflows are luck of the draw, it either works or it doesn't simple as that. Had some reflows made things worse 🤣 but others actually lasted. Good luck with the card 😀
Roasted a bricked 9800 xt a few months ago and still working.

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