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Bought these (retro) hardware today

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Reply 26100 of 52700, by LHN91

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Thallanor wrote:
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That second one looks like a pretty bog-standard YMF719 based card. I've got a Labway card that looks identical.

EDIT: By which I mean that generic Yamaha drivers should work just fine

Yeah. I might be on crack thinking that back in the day, Yamaha started building their own sound cards. My memory sure ain't what it used to be!

I Googled the FCC ID and tada! Labway. 😀 Good eye! A Google hit to VOGONS mentioned someone having trouble getting stereo sound out of its Sound Blaster Pro emulation, but I'll dig deeper when I have a chance. If it does good Sound Blaster Pro emulation, combined with it having OPL3 and an MPU-401 port, I could be in heaven. 😀 And it was a dirt-cheap card too. I was chatting with stamasd from the forums here and he's who got me interested in these cards again so it was sort of an impulse purchase. But for $20? Yeah, I'm cool with that. 😀 I was a bit nervous because the seller was Russian and I wasn't sure if I'd get the package mauled by Russian bears or anything, or if I'd receive anything at all. No box, but the guy must have shares in a bubblewrap company because there must have been 3" of padding all the way around it. I suspect it'd even survive that Russian bear.

Yamaha did make their own cards - the Yamaha Audician 32 is one example. The chipsets just also ended up lots of other places.

Reply 26101 of 52700, by appiah4

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Nice finds. The AWE64s are CT4520s not 4620s (Not sure if 4620s exist..). The SB32 is basically an AWE64 with 30 pin SIMM slots and an IDE interface. That means no bug on the MPU-401 but no daughterboard either. The YMF card is a Labway indeed.

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Reply 26102 of 52700, by arncht

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1999 july fun 😀

spare asus p3b-f for my p3 rig
p3 600 the fastest katmai
creative tnt2 ultra

i updated my benchmark table:
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Reply 26103 of 52700, by KCompRoom2000

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appiah4 wrote:

Nice finds. The AWE64s are CT4520s not 4620s (Not sure if 4620s exist..). The SB32 is basically an AWE64 with 30 pin SIMM slots and an IDE interface. That means no bug on the MPU-401 but no daughterboard either. The YMF card is a Labway indeed.

Exactly as I suspected, there's such as thing as a CT4620, but it's a Sound Blaster Live, not an AWE64. The image on Thallanor's post shows that the cards he has are CT4520s (I could see their model numbers clearly).

Also, if you find yourself wanting to get rid of the IDE interface capability of the CT3670, you can flash AWE64 firmware on it to remove the IDE function, which makes sense if you're dealing with a newer (Pentium era) machine that already has two IDE ports: How I turned my CT3670 into an AWE64 and got rid of its pesky IDE interface

Reply 26104 of 52700, by Vegge

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Last weeks purchases 😀

First out, another awesome AT-fulltower 😀 The base for the case is removed to avoid braking in transport.

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PSU is dead, but EISA power and 5.25" fullheight scsidisk! 🤣

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VLB SCSI and DX4 100

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Random external cd

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Joindata-bus ET4000AX, now I only need to find the matching motherboard

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That's all for now, some other bits and pieces on the way 😀

Reply 26105 of 52700, by appiah4

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About to order this motherboard, found it listed locally at a misprice..

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I also have an EPI-M 10000G but that one has an audio codec with no SB Pro Legacy compatibility; this unidentified board looks like an older mITX that would have DOS audio.. Anyone know what the board is? Searching for VT133 got me to several mATX boards of the exact same layout by PCChips/ECS (PCCHIPS M787CLR (ELITEGROUP P6VEM2 - VIA 1 Giga Pro) VIA C3 Samuel 2) but I can't seem to find the model number for the mITX version.

Appears to be a SiS 630 chipset and VIA VT1612A AC97 codec? That VIA sound codec is SB Pro Legacy compatible, so this should be pretty good for an mITX Win9x/DOS build?

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Reply 26106 of 52700, by Thallanor

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appiah4 wrote:

Nice finds. The AWE64s are CT4520s not 4620s (Not sure if 4620s exist..). The SB32 is basically an AWE64 with 30 pin SIMM slots and an IDE interface. That means no bug on the MPU-401 but no daughterboard either. The YMF card is a Labway indeed.

Oops! My bad! You are correct on the model number. 😀

Reply 26107 of 52700, by Thallanor

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KCompRoom2000 wrote:

Also, if you find yourself wanting to get rid of the IDE interface capability of the CT3670, you can flash AWE64 firmware on it to remove the IDE function, which makes sense if you're dealing with a newer (Pentium era) machine that already has two IDE ports: How I turned my CT3670 into an AWE64 and got rid of its pesky IDE interface

Excellent! I'll take a peek, thank you!

Reply 26108 of 52700, by canthearu

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My next repair project

Socket A motherboard - Gigabyte GA-7ZXE motherboard. A nice Athlon/Athlon XP motherboard with built in SB emulation via the VIA chipset.

Current Status: Boots, but isn't particularly stable. Has 7 bad capacitors.

To be replaced
5 x Choyo capacitors, XG series, 3300uF 6.3V. Can't find specs. I'm going to take a wild stab in the dark and replace these with Panasonic OS-CON polymer capacitors, 1500uF 6.3V, based on the fact that this series is probably the Ultra low ESR series motherboard capacitors.
8 x Choyo capacitors, XR series, 330uf 25V. For these smaller capacitors, I'll go with Panasonic FM 330uF 25V electrolytic capacitors.
1 x Choyo capacitor, XR series, 1200uF 6.3V. I think Panasonic FM 1200uF 6.3V will be perfectly fine for this too.

Reply 26109 of 52700, by dionb

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appiah4 wrote:

About to order this motherboard, found it listed locally at a misprice..

I also have an EPI-M 10000G but that one has an audio codec with no SB Pro Legacy compatibility; this unidentified board looks like an older mITX that would have DOS audio.. Anyone know what the board is? Searching for VT133 got me to several mATX boards of the exact same layout by PCChips/ECS (PCCHIPS M787CLR (ELITEGROUP P6VEM2 - VIA 1 Giga Pro) VIA C3 Samuel 2) but I can't seem to find the model number for the mITX version.

Appears to be a SiS 630 chipset and VIA VT1612A AC97 codec? That VIA sound codec is SB Pro Legacy compatible, so this should be pretty good for an mITX Win9x/DOS build?

SiS 630 and Via codec? This is a pure Via board with Via southbrige visible and C-Media CM8378 onboard PCI sound. The Northbridge print reeks of PC-Chips. CM-8378 has DOS drivers (via TSR), so should be OK for your purposes.

Reply 26110 of 52700, by liqmat

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Vegge wrote:
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Last weeks purchases 😀

First out, another awesome AT-fulltower 😀 The base for the case is removed to avoid braking in transport.

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PSU is dead, but EISA power and 5.25" fullheight scsidisk! 🤣

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VLB SCSI and DX4 100

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Random external cd

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Joindata-bus ET4000AX, now I only need to find the matching motherboard

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That's all for now, some other bits and pieces on the way 😀

Wow. Some nice hardware there. Great case and a VLB SCSI card. Very cool and it all looks very clean.

Reply 26111 of 52700, by appiah4

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dionb wrote:

SiS 630 and Via codec? This is a pure Via board with Via southbrige visible and C-Media CM8378 onboard PCI sound. The Northbridge print reeks of PC-Chips. CM-8378 has DOS drivers (via TSR), so should be OK for your purposes.

Good enough for me 😀

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Reply 26112 of 52700, by Predator99

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Very nice tower and board, Vegge! 😎

For me RAM-day:

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Many 30-pin Simm, also 4MBs and some Coast-Modules. Great Deal for 45€ shipped 😎

Reply 26113 of 52700, by The Serpent Rider

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Is that a terminator COAST module on the left side?

I must be some kind of standard: the anonymous gangbanger of the 21st century.

Reply 26114 of 52700, by Predator99

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The Serpent Rider wrote:

Is that a terminator COAST module on the left side?

Good question. Dont know what it is. As far as I know you can leave the slot empty, no need for a terminator? But Pinout matches excatly.

Reply 26115 of 52700, by Intel486dx33

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This has been bouncing around in my garage.
Sony CDU926s SCSI 2x cd-r with ISA Adaptec controller 1505

For a 486dx-66 or higher CPU with 16mb ram.

Back when Sony Corp. had several manufacturing and repair facilities in Silicon Valley.
I don't know if they are still there ?

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Reply 26116 of 52700, by bjwil1991

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What year did that drive get released? Very interesting.

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Reply 26117 of 52700, by Intel486dx33

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The Box reads printed 3/98
So it's not too old. Does have a caddy for the cdrom.

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Reply 26118 of 52700, by SpectriaForce

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Philips already made pc CD recorders in the early 90’s, the earliest were external, CDD521 is the first, I used to have a CDD522 years ago, but I didn’t have the controller card nor the software.

Reply 26119 of 52700, by dickkickem

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Got this extremely rare laptop off eBay today, it was $47.something and listed as parts because it read as having no OS (lol, I just had to run ScanDisk and fix the sectors). It's an AST Ascentia M 5260X, and I can't find anything about it 🤣. It has a P266MX, 64MB RAM, and a 1.4GB HDD (I think the HDD was modified, this thing did NOT come stock at 1.4GB I know for a FACT), and also I think it has some ATI Rage card of some sort, however I can't see exactly what it is in the device manager and in the BIOS.
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Best thing about it is that it works without the AC adapter plugged in. That's right, after 21 years the battery still works and holds a full charge, which is pretty damn impressive. You also gotta like the black with that teal/blue-ish color. My aesthetic.
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Now the worst part about it:
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That's right. The person who had this before me installed Windows freakin' ME on it. SERIOUSLY? And I thought the custom put in 1.4GB 2.5" IDE was bad enough. I can't even format the damn hard drive correctly or uninstall the OS because I have no floppy drive where I can use a boot disk. I also think the dude who used this used it exclusively on a CRT monitor, because it's stuck on 400x600 and I can not fix it and I have no drivers for it (help me please).

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AST Ascentia M 5260X - Working w/ WinME
IBM ThinkPad 770 - Working w/ Win2K