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Reply 21080 of 52700, by sf78

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And another from the hoarder.

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Reply 21081 of 52700, by Anonymous Coward

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I really like how this case looks. I still remember seeing these on display in newly built systems many years ago. It was probably the first "mini tower" case I ever saw.

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Reply 21082 of 52700, by Artex

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Anonymous Coward wrote:

I really like how this case looks. I still remember seeing these on display in newly built systems many years ago. It was probably the first "mini tower" case I ever saw.

+1 - Love the look of these + the Mhz display. So classic!

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Reply 21083 of 52700, by Gered

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Oh wow, two awesome cases. Nice finds @Cyrix200+ and @sf78 😁

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Reply 21085 of 52700, by SpectriaForce

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martin939 wrote:

Ahahaha, you're the one who snatched it! The seller got like double he asked for.
I let it go because it had a soldered CPU.

Yes, but I think the onboard CPU can be disabled and you can install another PGA168 CPU (some IBM PS/1 and Valuepoints have such motherboards too).

I actually thought the case was discolorated, but it looks pretty nice for its age.

Reply 21086 of 52700, by Cyrix200+

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martin939 wrote:

Ahahaha, you're the one who snatched it! The seller got like double he asked for.
I let it go because it had a soldered CPU.

Yes, I really got it for the case. It's the case my fathers first PC had, and that was the computer I played most of my games on in the first few years. That was a 386SX 16MHz though.

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martin939 wrote:

Ahahaha, you're the one who snatched it! The seller got like double he asked for.
I let it go because it had a soldered CPU.

Yes, but I think the onboard CPU can be disabled and you can install another PGA168 CPU (some IBM PS/1 and Valuepoints have such motherboards too).

I actually thought the case was discolorated, but it looks pretty nice for its age.

Yeah, I think you can use the socket on the board for another CPU. I didn't really look into it. This is the board:

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The case looks brand new actually. No scratches, no discoloration.

I wasn't the highest bidder by the way, but some others went incommunicado... There was a system with the same case that sold a few weeks ago on Marktplaats also, I missed that one.

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Reply 21087 of 52700, by kixs

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Went for a 150km drive to pickup these four cards (sellers photos):

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and a SS7 motherboard:

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They were listed on a local site as untested. On location I discovered the motherboard had some burned chips... so I left it. Two VLB graphics cards also had a few quirks (one had broken three tantalum caps and the other one some bent pins on the main chip). All cards were missing jumper caps. Even though I paid "only" 12€ for four cards + fuel I felt this wasn't a good deal as it looked everything was broken 🙁

Went straight home. Looked for the jumper settings, straightened the pins and tested the one I was most interested in - Paradise Bahamas64 VLB card. 1st try... eight beeps and no picture. I removed some jumpers and tried again... this time success 😁 Did a quick test in DOS and Windows 3.11 with S3 864 drivers and it looks it will be fine. All the rest are bad/can't get them to work.

I'm quite happy as this is the 1st Trio64 VLB in my collection. I'll upgrade the memory to full 2MB. I know the performance is on the same level as 864 but it's nice to have all the good cards.

Now I'm missing just a few VGA cards for my collection. So near but yet so far from finish 😲

Requests are also possible... /msg kixs

Reply 21088 of 52700, by gdjacobs

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Cyrix200+ wrote:
Yeah, I think you can use the socket on the board for another CPU. I didn't really look into it. This is the board: […]
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Yeah, I think you can use the socket on the board for another CPU. I didn't really look into it. This is the board:

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The case looks brand new actually. No scratches, no discoloration.

I wasn't the highest bidder by the way, but some others went incommunicado... There was a system with the same case that sold a few weeks ago on Marktplaats also, I missed that one.

I believe the expansion socket is socket 1 compliant, so it should allow the use of a non crippled 5V 486 CPU.

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Reply 21090 of 52700, by TheAbandonwareGuy

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kixs wrote:
Went for a 150km drive to pickup these four cards (sellers photos): […]
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Went for a 150km drive to pickup these four cards (sellers photos):

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and a SS7 motherboard:

maticna-ploca-super-socket-7-s7-procesore-35887801xx-via-vt82c598m-slika-88749074.jpg

They were listed on a local site as untested. On location I discovered the motherboard had some burned chips... so I left it. Two VLB graphics cards also had a few quirks (one had broken three tantalum caps and the other one some bent pins on the main chip). All cards were missing jumper caps. Even though I paid "only" 12€ for four cards + fuel I felt this wasn't a good deal as it looked everything was broken 🙁

Went straight home. Looked for the jumper settings, straightened the pins and tested the one I was most interested in - Paradise Bahamas64 VLB card. 1st try... eight beeps and no picture. I removed some jumpers and tried again... this time success 😁 Did a quick test in DOS and Windows 3.11 with S3 864 drivers and it looks it will be fine. All the rest are bad/can't get them to work.

I'm quite happy as this is the 1st Trio64 VLB in my collection. I'll upgrade the memory to full 2MB. I know the performance is on the same level as 864 but it's nice to have all the good cards.

Now I'm missing just a few VGA cards for my collection. So near but yet so far from finish 😲

mATX SS7? What model is that? I need to find one of those for sure.

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Reply 21091 of 52700, by Bancho

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TheAbandonwareGuy wrote:

mATX SS7? What model is that? I need to find one of those for sure.

Looks like AT form factor to me? SS7 MATX boards do exist though. I have this one

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Reply 21092 of 52700, by Ozzuneoj

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Bancho wrote:
Looks like AT form factor to me? SS7 MATX boards do exist though. I have this one […]
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mATX SS7? What model is that? I need to find one of those for sure.

Looks like AT form factor to me? SS7 MATX boards do exist though. I have this one

Chaintech 5RSA2

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Wow, that's a really sweet board. Tiny, SS7, integrated ESS Solo-1, AGP, 2 PCI, 2 ISA... could do an awful lot with a tiny board like that. 😀

Now for some blitting from the back buffer.

Reply 21093 of 52700, by gdjacobs

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derSammler wrote:

Isn't the soldered CPU just a 486SX and the socket for a 487? That's how it looks to me.

There is no "487". The 486SX is identical except with FPU disabled. When a processor is inserted in the expansion socket, the soldered on processor is disabled.

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Reply 21094 of 52700, by debs3759

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gdjacobs wrote:
derSammler wrote:

Isn't the soldered CPU just a 486SX and the socket for a 487? That's how it looks to me.

There is no "487". The 486SX is identical except with FPU disabled. When a processor is inserted in the expansion socket, the soldered on processor is disabled.

Actually there was/is such a thing as a 487. Intel produced a 487SX, which is basically a 486DX, and disables the 486SX. Works much like an overdrive chip.

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Reply 21095 of 52700, by derSammler

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gdjacobs wrote:

There is no "487". The 486SX is identical except with FPU disabled. When a processor is inserted in the expansion socket, the soldered on processor is disabled.

There is. While you are correct that the SX had just the FPU disabled, they still made a 487 to go with it. The 487 was a full 486DX (which took over the system when inserted) but with one pin changed on the chip and the socket, so you can neither put a 486DX in a 487 socket, nor a 487 in a 486 socket.

Reply 21096 of 52700, by Srandista

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I bought it few days ago, but I was outside of civilization, so couldn't post about it.

But yeah, for some inexplicable reason, I really wanted to buy some 3dfx card. And somehow, on German eBay, there was Voodoo4 4500 on auction, so I tried and I won it. Wasn't somebody from here bidding on it as well? 😀

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Reply 21097 of 52700, by Artex

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Lot of processors to start off the new year.
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Been trying to find this mouse pad 4-ev-er. This one is somewhat special as it was included in some 3DFX Voodoo5 5500 AGP boxes as an apology for 3DFX's inability to get these out in time. So purdy!!
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Reply 21099 of 52700, by Artex

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Unknown_K wrote:

I have that mousepad in my v5500 box, are they rare?

Rare enough I'd say. They get lost in the shuffle in open-boxed AGP 5500s.

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