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Bought these (retro) hardware today

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Reply 11800 of 52822, by dogchainx

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PeterLI wrote:

He already shipped it. eBay / PayPal and AMEX buyer protection so should be fine.

Roland prices have been very erratic this year.

I was wondering if that was you buying more Roland gear. Whenever I see Roland auctions on ebay from someone from Florida or the truncated user name on bids... 😎

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Reply 11801 of 52822, by Ozzuneoj

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dogchainx wrote:
PeterLI wrote:

He already shipped it. eBay / PayPal and AMEX buyer protection so should be fine.

Roland prices have been very erratic this year.

I was wondering if that was you buying more Roland gear. Whenever I see Roland auctions on ebay from someone from Florida or the truncated user name on bids... 😎

I would love to come across a MT-32 or a Sound Canvas of some sort. I've been looking and looking and just can't seem to find anything inexpensive. I can grab up piles of dirt cheap video and sound cards that are worth 5 times what I spent, but I can't find a single midi synth module for cheap to tinker with without spending $100-$200, shipped from Japan. I've never even heard one before. 🙁

Now for some blitting from the back buffer.

Reply 11802 of 52822, by zerker

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Indrid Cold wrote:

I own the same model, great trackball (and pricey, I've seen - mine is a gift, fortunately)

It wasn't too bad. Just $15 plus shipping for the one I got. No problems from my testing.

Reply 11805 of 52822, by dogchainx

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dogchainx wrote:
PeterLI wrote:

He already shipped it. eBay / PayPal and AMEX buyer protection so should be fine.

Roland prices have been very erratic this year.

I was wondering if that was you buying more Roland gear. Whenever I see Roland auctions on ebay from someone from Florida or the truncated user name on bids... 😎

I would love to come across a MT-32 or a Sound Canvas of some sort. I've been looking and looking and just can't seem to find anything inexpensive. I can grab up piles of dirt cheap video and sound cards that are worth 5 times what I spent, but I can't find a single midi synth module for cheap to tinker with without spending $100-$200, shipped from Japan. I've never even heard one before. 🙁

I bought an old MT-32 (no power brick) untested "AS IS" for $50 shipped. Works just fine. I might relist it, since I just realized i have an old version in my back room! I thought it was the new version...but nope, so now i have two "old version" MT-32s.

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486DX2-66Mhz-16MB-4.3GB+SpeedStar64 VLB DRAM 2MB+AWE32/SB16+SCB-55
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Reply 11806 of 52822, by Ozzuneoj

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PeterLI wrote:

Where do you live? Searchtempest works great to source modules cheap in the USA.

I'm in the USA. I just recently started using Search Tempest. Haven't found anything super cheap yet.

I'm not really sure what to look for, what search terms to use to get results, etc.. Any recommendations? It looks like an MT32 for older games and an SC88 for "newer" games would be ideal, but I don't know any other model numbers to look for, or even what they would be called in a more generic sense.

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Reply 11807 of 52822, by PeterLI

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Roland SC-7, Roland SC-33, Roland SC-50, Roland SC-55, Roland SC-55MKII, Roland SC-55ST, Roland M-GS64: all great for in game GM / GS. Roland CM-300 and CM-500 work as well.

SC-88 and all variants: total overkill.

Search nationwide and daily / weekly:
SC-55: http://boston.craigslist.org/bmw/msg/5553129951.html
SC-88VL: https://inlandempire.craigslist.org/msd/5533082608.html
M-GS64: https://seattle.craigslist.org/skc/msg/5550634249.html
MT-32: http://newjersey.craigslist.org/msd/5522335837.html
MIF-APL: https://chicago.craigslist.org/chc/msg/5550858305.html

Over the years I have bought scores of Roland through Craigslist.

Reply 11808 of 52822, by Ozzuneoj

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PeterLI wrote:
Roland SC-7, Roland SC-33, Roland SC-50, Roland SC-55, Roland SC-55MKII, Roland SC-55ST, Roland M-GS64: all great for in game GM […]
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Roland SC-7, Roland SC-33, Roland SC-50, Roland SC-55, Roland SC-55MKII, Roland SC-55ST, Roland M-GS64: all great for in game GM / GS.

SC-88 and all variants: total overkill.

Search nationwide and daily / weekly:
SC-55: http://boston.craigslist.org/bmw/msg/5553129951.html
SC-88VL: https://inlandempire.craigslist.org/msd/5533082608.html
M-GS64: https://seattle.craigslist.org/skc/msg/5550634249.html

Yep, I found that SC-55 too. Its too bad they don't ship. I'm in North Western Pennsylvania, near the NY border. Not exactly a hot spot for technology... especially not synth music.

Is there much difference between the SC-55, the 55MKII and newer devices when it comes to game music? I have considered maybe getting a keyboard some day to learn how to play\create synth music in the style of old games... but I'm thinking that even newer midi devices will simply sound more realistic and won't sound like old games, so a newer, more powerful device is probably still not needed.

And I can't quite figure this one out, but can an SC-55 (or any others) replace an MT32 in any way? Or will MT32-focused games only really sound right on an MT32?

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Reply 11809 of 52822, by PeterLI

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LA: not GM / GS / GM2 / XG: linear arithmetic: different technology. Roland MT-32 (gen1 & 2), MT-100, CM-32L, CM-64, CM-500. PCB: LAPC-I.

GM/GS: most games were composed for GM (SC-7) or GS (SC-55). PCBs: SCC-1, SCC-1A, SCC-1B, RAP-10, SCD-10/SCM-10/SCB-7,'SCD-15/SCM-15/SCB-55.

Only hardcore audio fans distinguish between Sound Canvas models.

MT-100: https://wilmington.craigslist.org/msg/5517685825.html

There are also NEC PC88/98 PCBs.

Reply 11810 of 52822, by GoblinUpTheRoad

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Bought a couple of Toshiba Laptops, the T3100e is a 286-12 and the T2130CS is a 486-75.

The 486 is working fine, but can't get the 3100 to post sadly.

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I reckon a 3100 model Toshiba laptop was one of the first PCs I ever used, when I was about 8 years old my Dad brought one home for his work and my brother and I were playing Leisure Suit Larry and Alley Cat on the orange plasma screen.

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Reply 11811 of 52822, by clueless1

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GoblinUpTheRoad wrote:

I reckon a 3100 model Toshiba laptop was one of the first PCs I ever used, when I was about 8 years old my Dad brought one home for his work and my brother and I were playing Leisure Suit Larry and Alley Cat on the orange plasma screen.

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Wait. Your parents let you play LSL when you were 8?

The more I learn, the more I realize how much I don't know.
OPL3 FM vs. Roland MT-32 vs. General MIDI DOS Game Comparison
Let's benchmark our systems with cache disabled
DOS PCI Graphics Card Benchmarks

Reply 11812 of 52822, by easy_john

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clueless1 wrote:

Wait. Your parents let you play LSL when you were 8?

Most parents from that time did'n know, that adult games exist on home computers.
I've play even strip poker and strip tetris on my zx specrtum, when I was 9-10. BTW, there was bigger interest in process, than in result, so no problem.

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Reply 11813 of 52822, by GoblinUpTheRoad

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clueless1 wrote:

Wait. Your parents let you play LSL when you were 8?

Yeah, we were so young and unfamiliar with adventure games that I don't think we could score even one point in the game, we just liked walking around I suppose.

Reply 11814 of 52822, by clueless1

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Well, when I was 13, I had an Apple II in my bedroom, so it was easy to get into that kind of stuff if I wanted to. But as an 8 yr old, you generally don't have as much privacy, so if the content is visually questionable, it's easier for a parent to spot. That's the only reason I asked. 😀

The more I learn, the more I realize how much I don't know.
OPL3 FM vs. Roland MT-32 vs. General MIDI DOS Game Comparison
Let's benchmark our systems with cache disabled
DOS PCI Graphics Card Benchmarks

Reply 11816 of 52822, by BloodyCactus

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wow, they pick off individual smt resistors? lot of work to bring that back. I assume schematic exists so you can know the values of all those resistors.

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Reply 11817 of 52822, by Cyrix200+

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Finally found an Intel TX chipset mainboard locally, and a decent one too! Paid a bit more than I usually would (30 euros), but the whole set is similar to my old Socket 7 PC I want to rebuild (I had a Abit mainboard though, and a Cyrix 200+ 150MHz 6x86 CPU).

Asus TX97-E with Pentium MMX 200MHz
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S3 Virge DX (4MB I guess)
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SoundBlaster AWE64 CT4500
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Reply 11818 of 52822, by jheronimus

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Asus TX97-E with Pentium MMX 200MHz

Have the same motherboard. The bad thing about those Asus mobos is they need a special ports extender (called MIR) like this:

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It has a single sleeve so you can't use common PS/2 extenders. So, unless you can find that extender, you're probably gonna have to use multi I/O and a COM mouse.

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