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Bought these (retro) hardware today

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Reply 20640 of 52205, by oeuvre

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I bought a Macintosh; my first pre-PowerPC mac I've ever had. Local from craigslist. Performa 630CD, came with Apple Performa Plus CRT display, 2 keyboards, 2 mice, an ADB cable, a 540MB external LaCie SCSI hard drive, and a slew of boxed software (games, autocad, etc.).

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I broke the top cover and some other bits of plastic unfortunately. Didn't realize how brittle they were.

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Reply 20641 of 52205, by luckybob

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oh man, what a system to cut your teeth on. Lucky for you those systems have little value. so feel free to experiment. And for the record, the plastic was made of eggshells. I've considered investing into a high quality 3d printer to make the litany of plastic crap ass parts for macs.

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Reply 20642 of 52205, by derSammler

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Munx wrote:

Wow. The 6MB Voodoo alone is impressive.

I think it's a Voodoo Rush, as I can only spot one VGA connector and TV out. Anyway, will be fun to get through the cards once the lot is here. 😁

Reply 20643 of 52205, by Munx

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derSammler wrote:
Munx wrote:

Wow. The 6MB Voodoo alone is impressive.

I think it's a Voodoo Rush, as I can only spot one VGA connector and TV out. Anyway, will be fun to get through the cards once the lot is here. 😁

Nope, thats a miro hiscore 6MB Voodoo. It uses a proprietary passthrough cable.

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Reply 20645 of 52205, by Deksor

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If you get the passthrough cable for the miro card, I'd be quite interested into getting a pinout of it : my card misses it ...

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Reply 20646 of 52205, by derSammler

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The cable is not included, but since it's a passthrough port, finding the pin out should be very easy by measuring the pins against the VGA connector. Might only work when the system is powered, however. I'll let you know since I have to build the cable myself anyway.

Reply 20647 of 52205, by oeuvre

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luckybob wrote:

oh man, what a system to cut your teeth on. Lucky for you those systems have little value. so feel free to experiment. And for the record, the plastic was made of eggshells. I've considered investing into a high quality 3d printer to make the litany of plastic crap ass parts for macs.

I really like it came with all those accessories and software! Gonna try to load up a fresh install.

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Reply 20649 of 52205, by bjwil1991

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Purchased new L2 cache on mouser.com (128k x 8 20ns 32-pin 5v, 32k x 8 28-pin 15ns 5V IDT brand), and going to order the rest on eBay (32k x 8 28 pin 15/20ns 5V, 64k x 1 15ns 22 pin, and 70ns 256k x 16 ZIP for the video card). Can't wait to do benchmarks between 1MB and 2MB Video RAM, 0KB, 128KB, and 512KB L2 cache for games and stuff.

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Reply 20650 of 52205, by CkRtech

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Look forward to any findings you might share. The more the merrier

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Reply 20651 of 52205, by luckybob

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spoiler:

big difference between 0 & 128kb of L2 and little between 128 & 512k

vram also wont matter UNLESS you're particular card does memory interweaving.

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Reply 20652 of 52205, by dogchainx

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Is a NEC 22" Multisync FP2141SB considered retro? I'm hoping to pick it up for $20 (boom baby!) tomorrow and it'll replace my 20" HP CRT that will take a fortune to repair.

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Reply 20653 of 52205, by LHN91

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oeuvre wrote:

I bought a Macintosh; my first pre-PowerPC mac I've ever had. Local from craigslist. Performa 630CD, came with Apple Performa Plus CRT display, 2 keyboards, 2 mice, an ADB cable, a 540MB external LaCie SCSI hard drive, and a slew of boxed software (games, autocad, etc.).

Pictures https://imgur.com/a/GbY3S

I broke the top cover and some other bits of plastic unfortunately. Didn't realize how brittle they were.

I've got an almost identical (In fact I think it's completely identical) LC630CD - mine came with a Apple Multiple Scan 15 monitor.

I think mine has 20MB of RAM and a 6 GB hard drive, clearly upgraded by someone who was using it for accounting, as an install of MYOB Accounting was still on the drive when I got it.

Reply 20654 of 52205, by oeuvre

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That's pretty sweet; didn't know you could upgrade the hard drives to that much!

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Reply 20655 of 52205, by Artex

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dogchainx wrote:

Is a NEC 22" Multisync FP2141SB considered retro? I'm hoping to pick it up for $20 (boom baby!) tomorrow and it'll replace my 20" HP CRT that will take a fortune to repair.

Heck yeah.. Been after one of these for a while but can never find one local. These are heavy bastards so shipping kills it.

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Reply 20656 of 52205, by LHN91

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oeuvre wrote:

That's pretty sweet; didn't know you could upgrade the hard drives to that much!

From what I understand, with the Quadra/Performa/LC 630 series, Apple went with IDE for the Hard Drive Controller instead of SCSI. The CDROM is still SCSI, but I think you can use pretty standard IDE hard drives (at least sizes from around 94-96) on the 630 series.

That said, there's some limitation regarding partition size dependent on what version of Mac OS you decide to use - some only support 2 or 4 GB partitions, and some have issues above 8GB even if they'll let you install to drives larger than that.

Reply 20657 of 52205, by BSA Starfire

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SoundBlaster 2.0 CT1350B, perfect for one of my 386 machines, not decided if it'll go into the sx or dx yet.

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Reply 20658 of 52205, by bjwil1991

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BSA Starfire wrote:

SoundBlaster 2.0 CT1350B, perfect for one of my 386 machines, not decided if it'll go into the sx or dx yet.

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Try both and see what happens.

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Reply 20659 of 52205, by BSA Starfire

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I'm thinking the 386DX will have this card and the SX can have the Sound blaster.

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386SX 33MHz,ULSI 387,4MB Ram,OAK OTI077 1MB. Seagate ST1144A, MS WSS audio
Amstrad PC 9486i, DX/2 66, 16 MB RAM, Cirrus SVGA,Win 95,SB 16
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