Sutekh94 wrote:

My latest eBay find arrived today. I'm really looking forward to having a play with this: […]
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My latest eBay find arrived today. I'm really looking forward to having a play with this:

I think I had that on my watch list. It went really cheap didn't it? 😀

Ozzuneoj wrote:

I think I had that on my watch list. It went really cheap didn't it? 😀

Yeah, something like $5 + $7 shipping. By the way, it does seem to work from what limited testing I've done with it!

Picked up a retro trackball to go with my retro PC

Now it just needs some cleaning...

Love trackballs.... Just so hard to use, before I get used to it.
(Just a question of a few day's)

Sutekh94 wrote:

My latest eBay find arrived today. I'm really looking forward to having a play with this: […]
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My latest eBay find arrived today. I'm really looking forward to having a play with this:

Nice...

So, just out of curiosity, are later 3dfx cards like the Voodoo 3 2000 and 3000 from arcade systems more or less collectible\desirable than their retail\OEM PC counterparts?

I know it really comes down to who is looking for them, but do you guys with decent collections consider the arcade cards to be worth more? Would the boards they are attached to be worth anything to 3dfx collectors? I'm just wondering because I look for everything and if I find any arcade innards with 3dfx cards attached I don't know if I should care more or less about them or if 3dfx collectors care about having the non-3dfx-related portion of the system too. Most of the time it seems that the main boards are pretty much useless to someone who doesn't already have the equipment and means to run arcade systems in-home... and then you have a question of controllers and other input devices.

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PeterLI wrote:

Finally found a Philips P 3238, my childhood PC, after searching for 5+ years. 😀

Grats! 😀

PeterLI wrote:

Finally found a Philips P 3238, my childhood PC, after searching for 5+ years. 😀

Congrat's 😀
Nothing like having something you were brought up on. 😉

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Ozzuneoj wrote:

So, just out of curiosity, are later 3dfx cards like the Voodoo 3 2000 and 3000 from arcade systems more or less collectible\desirable than their retail\OEM PC counterparts?

I know it really comes down to who is looking for them, but do you guys with decent collections consider the arcade cards to be worth more? Would the boards they are attached to be worth anything to 3dfx collectors? I'm just wondering because I look for everything and if I find any arcade innards with 3dfx cards attached I don't know if I should care more or less about them or if 3dfx collectors care about having the non-3dfx-related portion of the system too. Most of the time it seems that the main boards are pretty much useless to someone who doesn't already have the equipment and means to run arcade systems in-home... and then you have a question of controllers and other input devices.

Yes the arcade versions are collectables and they like other 3DFX gear are worth a good bit of money, in the end these cards will be sought after as a last source of 3DFX cards as the pool of available retail/oem cards continues to shrink. The only real problem is people buying them to only resale them at huge premiums later who are not collectors or people who use these cards.

So go hunt down some brackets and put them to use 😀

PhilsComputerLab wrote:

A fan sent me retro care package :) […]
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A fan sent me retro care package 😀

Spotted this on ebay... http://www.ebay.com/itm/AM2-CPU-Board-ASRock- … RwAAOSwuMFUjGoD

The AM2 CPU board for that weird slot

nforce4max wrote:

Ozzuneoj wrote:

So, just out of curiosity, are later 3dfx cards like the Voodoo 3 2000 and 3000 from arcade systems more or less collectible\desirable than their retail\OEM PC counterparts?

I know it really comes down to who is looking for them, but do you guys with decent collections consider the arcade cards to be worth more? Would the boards they are attached to be worth anything to 3dfx collectors? I'm just wondering because I look for everything and if I find any arcade innards with 3dfx cards attached I don't know if I should care more or less about them or if 3dfx collectors care about having the non-3dfx-related portion of the system too. Most of the time it seems that the main boards are pretty much useless to someone who doesn't already have the equipment and means to run arcade systems in-home... and then you have a question of controllers and other input devices.

Yes the arcade versions are collectables and they like other 3DFX gear are worth a good bit of money, in the end these cards will be sought after as a last source of 3DFX cards as the pool of available retail/oem cards continues to shrink. The only real problem is people buying them to only resale them at huge premiums later who are not collectors or people who use these cards.

So go hunt down some brackets and put them to use 😀

Thanks for the info. I am struggling with wanting to collect things that I don't need to collect, which I happen to be able to locate cheaply and they happen to be worth a lot more most of the time... its a tough spot to be in, let me tell you. 😮 I keep finding stuff, and I can't help but grab it...

Do people care about the actual boards from the games? It doesn't really seem like it. I really don't personally, and I don't have the room for them. I'd just be interested in the cards. But I'd hate to separate what others consider a more valuable\collectible set just to save space.

Ozzuneoj wrote:

nforce4max wrote:

Ozzuneoj wrote:

So, just out of curiosity, are later 3dfx cards like the Voodoo 3 2000 and 3000 from arcade systems more or less collectible\desirable than their retail\OEM PC counterparts?

I know it really comes down to who is looking for them, but do you guys with decent collections consider the arcade cards to be worth more? Would the boards they are attached to be worth anything to 3dfx collectors? I'm just wondering because I look for everything and if I find any arcade innards with 3dfx cards attached I don't know if I should care more or less about them or if 3dfx collectors care about having the non-3dfx-related portion of the system too. Most of the time it seems that the main boards are pretty much useless to someone who doesn't already have the equipment and means to run arcade systems in-home... and then you have a question of controllers and other input devices.

Yes the arcade versions are collectables and they like other 3DFX gear are worth a good bit of money, in the end these cards will be sought after as a last source of 3DFX cards as the pool of available retail/oem cards continues to shrink. The only real problem is people buying them to only resale them at huge premiums later who are not collectors or people who use these cards.

So go hunt down some brackets and put them to use 😀

Thanks for the info. I am struggling with wanting to collect things that I don't need to collect, which I happen to be able to locate cheaply and they happen to be worth a lot more most of the time... its a tough spot to be in, let me tell you. 😮 I keep finding stuff, and I can't help but grab it...

Do people care about the actual boards from the games? It doesn't really seem like it. I really don't personally, and I don't have the room for them. I'd just be interested in the cards. But I'd hate to separate what others consider a more valuable\collectible set just to save space.

When it comes to arcade stuff I only care about the 3DFX cards, I rather leave everything else to someone else 🤣. When you find something unusual it helps to do research as it will help a lot to determine if it something that people want or something that is junk.

Bought a BeIA internet appliance, the FIC Genesis 2000:

Open that bad boy up! How hackable is it?

Does the Geode processor respond to SETMUL? Does it have the earlier south bridge or the newer AMD influenced one?

If it's not locked down, this thing might have the ingredients of a really nice DOS box.

I'd love to see some images of the software too! 😀 A quick web search didn't find anything meaningful.

Externally, I see no drive access whatsoever, but it would be interesting to see if you could install anything else on it using a proxy machine on whatever storage it uses. With an appropriate disk image of the original for backup, of course.

I have already spent this months retro budget but I have some items in my watch lists that I can not avoid bidding on.

One such item is the king of the Sound Canvas modules, the Roland ED SC-D70. Normally I only see these in Japan and with their high price + shipping + Swedish VAT + customs fee + customs handling fees they are not really worth while. This one turned up locally though and the price ended up fair enough.

I guess I can stop looking for sound modules now! 😀

Roland ED SC-D70. The sellers picture.

Just before someone mentions it, I do have a Roland SC-55ST aswell as I know these newer ones are not 100% optimal for GM. I will have a very fun time playing around with this unit in any case. 😀

At first I thought my nightmares were true, both SC and D model numbers... But no, it's just regular SoundCanvas stuff with the typical pitifully low polyphony. I don't deny the device might be useful and see why you might want one these days*, but at the same time, this thing is from 2000? The hell? Yamaha were already making the MU1000 if not the 2000 by that time and Korg were off on a weird tangent but at least trying, I think I can see why Roland fell off the face of the planet after the 1990s. Can't help but wonder what market this module was aimed at.

* The same way I want a DX7 despite the fact they were, and always will be, awful synthesizers. Certainly more offensive in 1984 than anything the Sound Canvas series did in the proceeding decades.

HighTreason wrote:

At first I thought my nightmares were true, both SC and D model numbers... But no, it's just regular SoundCanvas stuff with the typical pitifully low polyphony. I don't deny the device might be useful and see why you might want one these days*, but at the same time, this thing is from 2000? The hell? Yamaha were already making the MU1000 if not the 2000 by that time and Korg were off on a weird tangent but at least trying, I think I can see why Roland fell off the face of the planet after the 1990s. Can't help but wonder what market this module was aimed at.

* The same way I want a DX7 despite the fact they were, and always will be, awful synthesizers. Certainly more offensive in 1984 than anything the Sound Canvas series did in the proceeding decades.

The Roland ED SC-8850 actually has double the polyphony over the ED SC-D70 but the reason I have been on the lookout for this one is that its the only one with digital out and selectable 44/48kHz sampling rate.

I agree with most of what you wrote though, Roland never even fully learned how a piano should sound. In games I usually prefer the Roland SC-55 over Yamaha synths when listening to comparsions but as I do not own any Yamaha modules my self I can not really say much more than that.

I think there is a reason why pure (huge) sample based solutions have replaced MIDI synths in general.