Creative will source their drive from someone else.

For those wanting to know what the market will look like when all components run out and even the simplest of hardware is in short supply and driving up the prices , just take a look at a country that doesnt have any hardware left, you can visit http://www.valueforest.com (south African search site) the current exchange rate is $1=R15 , it will give you a good glimpse of what your market (USA or UK) will look like 5 to 10 years from now when most of the retro stuff has dried up, even a Sega Megadrive here costs an insane amount of money, simply because there arent any of them left.

Back on topic, I picked up a STB Voodoo 2 12MB from Russia while they are cheap :3 to replace the 8MB version in my V2 Sli retro rig , so both cards are now 12Mb.

I found a cheap IBM PS/1 from the link below.

It's 486sx-25 that may be upgraded to DX2, as I read.

Pretty neat condition, actually. The lady washed it for me and, based on the pictures, it seems very good:

http://olx.pl/oferta/obudowa-komputera-z-plyt … 99-IDgrB1T.html

Price was 12 USD shipped.

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PeterLI wrote:

A lot of equipment will no longer work 15 years from now. Plus demand will likely be far less as well.

I disagree, demand will be higher as a result of the hobby getting to be more popular because of places like youtube ect.

Don't worry, just keep 'em dead parts. Bring it to South America someday. Find a shaman and voodoo them back to 'life'. You probably wouldn't need a PSU to run your machine afterward.

To bring things back to topic -- and to show that you still can find good stuff cheap -- here's my latest purchase:

So I was browsing the Swedish ebay (tradera), and saw this (sellers picture):

cryptically described as "Lantronix, Servers, MSS1-T, MSS1-T2, MSS100". Hmm, what's in that ESD-bag? Being the curious cat that I am, I had to find out more.

One of the additional pictures revealed this (sellers picture again):

😀
No other bidders, and it's mine for ~5 EUR + ~7 EUR shipping (annoyingly, seller would not accept pickup...). It's waiting for me at the local post office, with some luck it has made it through shipping and is in working order. For those who don't know, the red card is a Gravis Ultrasound PnP, usually selling for something like 10x the money I paid.

As a bonus, I have a serial-server-thingamadingy. Maybe useful for something?

Great bargain!

I got my GUS PnP many, many years ago from someone off the old Quest Studio website / forum. It's the only GUS I have, hopefully it will last 😀

Nice find on that Gravis! I hope it works. I wonder if it was actually part of the serial-server-thingy, or accidentally included out of ignorance.

archsan wrote:

Don't worry, just keep 'em dead parts. Bring it to South America someday. Find a shaman and voodoo them back to 'life'. You probably wouldn't need a PSU to run your machine afterward.

That only works on Voodoo cards though. 🤣

PhilsComputerLab wrote:

Great bargain!

I got my GUS PnP many, many years ago from someone off the old Quest Studio website / forum. It's the only GUS I have, hopefully it will last 😀

clueless1 wrote:

Nice find on that Gravis! I hope it works. I wonder if it was actually part of the serial-server-thingy, or accidentally included out of ignorance.

Thanks! Yeah, I definitively think they did not know what it was. The seller is actually a company offering to sell stuff for others as a service; "We sell what you can't be bothered selling yourself!", http://www.sellpy.se. Probably a pretty shitty deal for whoever uses the service...
I read that stuff that isn't expected to sell is trashed, and since I seemed to be the only one who picked up what this was, maybe I just saved a GUS from being trashed. 😀

If working, this card is probably going into a 486-build I have in mind to run demos.

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Thanks! Yeah, I definitively think they did not know what it was. The seller is actually a company offering to sell stuff for ot […]
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PhilsComputerLab wrote:

Great bargain!

I got my GUS PnP many, many years ago from someone off the old Quest Studio website / forum. It's the only GUS I have, hopefully it will last 😀

clueless1 wrote:

Nice find on that Gravis! I hope it works. I wonder if it was actually part of the serial-server-thingy, or accidentally included out of ignorance.

Thanks! Yeah, I definitively think they did not know what it was. The seller is actually a company offering to sell stuff for others as a service; "We sell what you can't be bothered selling yourself!", http://www.sellpy.se. Probably a pretty shitty deal for whoever uses the service...
I read that stuff that isn't expected to sell is trashed, and since I seemed to be the only one who picked up what this was, maybe I just saved a GUS from being trashed. 😀

If working, this card is probably going into a 486-build I have in mind to run demos.

I was under the impression that the GUS PNP cards were the cheaper ones most commonly and it's the older non-PNP cards that are most highly sought after. Something like the older ones will work with old machines under DOS without windows, and the PNP ones do not. At least that's what I was led to believe anyway, I'm probably wrong.

Still though, yes nice find. A GUS is a GUS. I think the PNP and non-PNP use the same sound core/chips? no?

PeterLI wrote:

A lot of equipment will no longer work 15 years from now. Plus demand will likely be far less as well.

There's no logical reason to think that. Most older hardware will work 15, or 30 years from now. Especially some of the newer still will likely still be fine as well as long as they're treated well and not overclocked within an inch of their life. Some things may suffer from capacitor plague however and need to be re-capped, but replacing em with modern capacitors should result in quite a few more years of service. It's all about how we treat our gear. My older not-easy-to-replace stuff isn't overclocked, but some of my newer stuff that's still readily available online is.

dexter311 wrote:

archsan wrote:

Don't worry, just keep 'em dead parts. Bring it to South America someday. Find a shaman and voodoo them back to 'life'. You probably wouldn't need a PSU to run your machine afterward.

That only works on Voodoo cards though. 🤣

stoof wrote:

To bring things back to topic -- and to show that you still can find good stuff cheap -- here's my latest purchase: […]
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To bring things back to topic -- and to show that you still can find good stuff cheap -- here's my latest purchase:

So I was browsing the Swedish ebay (tradera), and saw this (sellers picture):

cryptically described as "Lantronix, Servers, MSS1-T, MSS1-T2, MSS100". Hmm, what's in that ESD-bag? Being the curious cat that I am, I had to find out more.

One of the additional pictures revealed this (sellers picture again):

😀
No other bidders, and it's mine for ~5 EUR + ~7 EUR shipping (annoyingly, seller would not accept pickup...). It's waiting for me at the local post office, with some luck it has made it through shipping and is in working order. For those who don't know, the red card is a Gravis Ultrasound PnP, usually selling for something like 10x the money I paid.

As a bonus, I have a serial-server-thingamadingy. Maybe useful for something?

Congrats on the GUS card. They are just too expensive normally, so great job on the purchase.
Seems as it can still be done, getting them cards at a low cost.

New Fujitsu Siemens CRT from my work. Yes it's an absolutely new screen. And absolutely free! I'm happy 😉

Nice! Would love to have a better CRT 😀

trunk70 wrote:

New Fujitsu Siemens CRT from my work. Yes it's an absolutely new screen. And absolutely free! I'm happy ;-) […]
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New Fujitsu Siemens CRT from my work. Yes it's an absolutely new screen. And absolutely free! I'm happy 😉

Sweet... 😜

archsan wrote:

Were those Volaris popular in the server market? Lots of NOS on ebay...

There are also a lot of laptop Volari cards on ebay from time to time. The only one really worth having, though, is the V8 Duo model and they seem to be about as rare as a Neon 250.

kithylin wrote:

stoof wrote:

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If working, this card is probably going into a 486-build I have in mind to run demos.

I was under the impression that the GUS PNP cards were the cheaper ones most commonly and it's the older non-PNP cards that are most highly sought after. Something like the older ones will work with old machines under DOS without windows, and the PNP ones do not. At least that's what I was led to believe anyway, I'm probably wrong.

Still though, yes nice find. A GUS is a GUS. I think the PNP and non-PNP use the same sound core/chips? no?

Correct, the non-PnP seems more sought after. Still though, the PnP is like 90 USD, according to the latest sales on ebay.

The PnP does use a different chip compared to non-PnP, with different features (right?). I'm not at all experienced with these cards, but I was hoping that the PnP would have the same compatibility as the non-PnP, for demos etc., however I don't know.