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Reply 18420 of 39963, by nforce4max

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Anywho. I bought a Dell XPS Gen 1 today. Ive been discussing buying this since early last year and I've actually forgotten which CPU and GPU it has in it. It'll be good regardless. It should have either a 3.4GHz Prescott or a 3.4GHz Gallatin (is there a major difference?). The GPU will be either a Mobility 9700 or a 9800. I think this one has a 9800 Pro. In theory the former can be upgraded to the latter anyways.

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If it's a Prescott, swap it with a Northwood immediately. Those things are furnaces even in a desktop, never mind with a laptop's cooling restrictions. You'll also see better battery life. Even if it's a Gallatin EE, I'd still change it out. I'm pretty sure the Gallatins had higher TDP than the Northwoods thanks to their L3 Cache. It would run much better in a desktop. Also, if you're cleaning out the inevitable dust, remember that it has a third fan underneath the palm rest that cools the chipset and then blows across the top of the CPU cooler.
Basically: Swap in a Northwood, throw the Gallatin in a desktop, throw the Preshott in the trash.

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If it doesn't have a full 2GBs of RAM, keep in mind when ordering that it contains an honest-to-god desktop i865 chipset, and thus you should order DDR400 SODIMMs. It'll take the more common DDR333 sticks, but you'll take a performance hit.
I'd also recommend finding a 7200 RPM HDD for it. They generally came with 5400 or (barf) 4200 RPM drives, and it makes a world of difference.

I wonder if the XPS Gen 1 will take the Intel Pentium 4M Northwood processors used in early P4 laptops, if so I would imagine a 2.2-2.6 GHz model would be a viable replacement if you wanted to prioritize power consumption over performance. even then a 2.x GHz P4 should be good enough depending on the era of games you're targeting, off-hand I don't know anything that would run good on a Radeon 9700/9800 that would need a 3.x GHz P4 to run properly, for 1080p video usage it will mostly depend on how the player takes advantage of the GPU for decoding.

An older PATA SSD would be a great drive replacement depending on your chances of finding a good drive, I've heard of M-SATA adapters but IDK how practical they would be to install on older laptops like that, good find nevertheless.

Just about anything will take the mobile versions including desktops but there is one catch, the clocks will be defaulted low as the cpu has two multiplier states that are chipset controlled. They are good for high clocking boards and a small number of people used them this way back in the day but you are better off using a normal P4. For low power win9x with a p4 these things are overlooked at the low state is like 1.2ghz so they will only sip power.

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Reply 18422 of 39963, by bjwil1991

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Bought an external 100MB ZIP drive with the software, and cables (extender, ZIP to PC Parallel cables, and power adapter) that I'm going to be using on my Packard Bell. Might get an internal IDE one for my K6-2 machine and a 10 pack of 100MB ZIP disks, and 350MB 2120XL data tapes on eBay.

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Reply 18424 of 39963, by SW-SSG

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Got an external USB FDD, Samsung SFD-321U. Makes a cool "HMMMMM" noise when spinning. Neither of the two retro machines I've whittled down to have an internal FDD, so I bought this to use their BIOS' "USB-FDD" boot options for troubleshooting/etc. It works fine for that.

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Reply 18425 of 39963, by Cyrix200+

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bjwil1991 wrote:

Bought an external 100MB ZIP drive with the software, and cables (extender, ZIP to PC Parallel cables, and power adapter) that I'm going to be using on my Packard Bell. Might get an internal IDE one for my K6-2 machine and a 10 pack of 100MB ZIP disks, and 350MB 2120XL data tapes on eBay.

I have always been a bit afraid of ZIP drives since the click of death thing. Is there a way to recognise affected drives?

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Reply 18426 of 39963, by cyclone3d

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Cyrix200+ wrote:
bjwil1991 wrote:

Bought an external 100MB ZIP drive with the software, and cables (extender, ZIP to PC Parallel cables, and power adapter) that I'm going to be using on my Packard Bell. Might get an internal IDE one for my K6-2 machine and a 10 pack of 100MB ZIP disks, and 350MB 2120XL data tapes on eBay.

I have always been a bit afraid of ZIP drives since the click of death thing. Is there a way to recognise affected drives?

I've been very wary of Zip drives ever since I used them in college.

The dumb computers or maybe the drives themselves would randomly wipe all data from the disk without warning. If you didn't have a backup you were definitely hosed.

If you did have a backup, you better hope it was not on a zip drive as you had about a 50% chance that when you inserted that disk it would get wiped as well.

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Reply 18427 of 39963, by cj_reha

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Reply 18428 of 39963, by moawkwrd

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A couple arrivals for my planned builds:

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According to the label on the mouse, I may be a victim of piracy if it was supplied without a new PC. I should contact Logitech immediately!

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Reply 18429 of 39963, by torindkflt

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I've been very wary of Zip drives ever since I used them in college.

For what it's worth I personally have never experienced the CoD or other catastrophic failure with any Zip drive I've ever used, which includes multiple internal drives in college and a mix of a few internal and external drives at home. Only problem I've had with a Zip drive is my USB-powered 250MB drive randomly "unmounting" the disk...not ejecting it, just suddenly acting like there is no disk inserted and refusing to let me read it until I eject and re-insert the disk (Spins down and starts blinking the LED slowly). Granted this could be a problem with 64-bit Windows and/or Windows 10, but it's never been a show-stopper since, like I said, all I need to do is eject then re-insert the disk to get it going again.

Reply 18430 of 39963, by TheAbandonwareGuy

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moawkwrd wrote:
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A couple arrivals for my planned builds:

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According to the label on the mouse, I may be a victim of piracy if it was supplied without a new PC. I should contact Logitech immediately!

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Reply 18431 of 39963, by bjwil1991

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Cyrix200+ wrote:
bjwil1991 wrote:

Bought an external 100MB ZIP drive with the software, and cables (extender, ZIP to PC Parallel cables, and power adapter) that I'm going to be using on my Packard Bell. Might get an internal IDE one for my K6-2 machine and a 10 pack of 100MB ZIP disks, and 350MB 2120XL data tapes on eBay.

I have always been a bit afraid of ZIP drives since the click of death thing. Is there a way to recognise affected drives?

The reasons why behind the click of death was because of the following:

1. Dusty cartridges or oxidized read/write heads
2. Power outage/unplugging constantly
3. Misaligned heads
4. Mis-written cartridges or damaged disks can damage the head
5. Missing pieces for cost reduction (like the 1995-2000 Chrysler/Plymouth/Dodge minivans with no Brake Shift Interlock)

Iomega had a lawsuit filed against them in 1998 and wasn't settled until 2001. The drives and disks later on were labeled which ones were/are bad later on in life.

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Reply 18433 of 39963, by yawetaG

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cyclone3d wrote:
I've been very wary of Zip drives ever since I used them in college. […]
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bjwil1991 wrote:

Bought an external 100MB ZIP drive with the software, and cables (extender, ZIP to PC Parallel cables, and power adapter) that I'm going to be using on my Packard Bell. Might get an internal IDE one for my K6-2 machine and a 10 pack of 100MB ZIP disks, and 350MB 2120XL data tapes on eBay.

I have always been a bit afraid of ZIP drives since the click of death thing. Is there a way to recognise affected drives?

I've been very wary of Zip drives ever since I used them in college.

The dumb computers or maybe the drives themselves would randomly wipe all data from the disk without warning. If you didn't have a backup you were definitely hosed.

If you did have a backup, you better hope it was not on a zip drive as you had about a 50% chance that when you inserted that disk it would get wiped as well.

USB ZIP drives 250 Mb can read the 100 Mb disks as well and usually don't suffer from the earlier drives' problems. Mine is now close to 15 years old and still works fine (except on my MacBook Pro, which seems to drive it very hard...).

Reply 18434 of 39963, by moawkwrd

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A couple arrivals for my planned builds:

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Why get a potential brick?

It was cheap enough for it not to matter if it is.

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Sharp 17" LCD with speakers, from 2002 roughly.

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Two of the beige towers are for harvesting parts and then selling on what I can't use. Will be using the Gateway tower with it's lovely stickers for my Windows 98 machine. Black Antec Tower is for Windows XP.

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Wyse rubber dome PS/2 keyboard, looks to be from the early 2000s judging by the Windows keys. As new in box.

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Reply 18435 of 39963, by Cyrix200+

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I put a relatively low starting bid on this item, to my suprise it was immediately accepted by the seller. Quite happy with it. Paid 60 euro for it.

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Reply 18436 of 39963, by luckybob

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love that antec case in the middle. I had a black one and crammed a P4 inside it. I would not mind getting another.

It is a mistake to think you can solve any major problems just with potatoes.

Reply 18437 of 39963, by Cyrix200+

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Today's arrivals, slightly larger:
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Two of the beige towers are for harvesting parts and then selling on what I can't use. Will be using the Gateway tower with it's lovely stickers for my Windows 98 machine. Black Antec Tower is for Windows XP.
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Love the beige cases, the Antec is a true modern classic!

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Reply 18438 of 39963, by elod

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luckybob wrote:

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love that antec case in the middle. I had a black one and crammed a P4 inside it. I would not mind getting another.

I still use mine daily but I have to admit that the NSK4000 on the right is better.

Reply 18439 of 39963, by boxpressed

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This arrived today. I'm a sucker for all Ti4600 cards. The Nvidia 45.23 Control Panel identifies it as a Ti4800, however!

The card is almost new, and the cables are still sealed. New manual. $28 shipped from shopgoodwill.com.

UPDATE: I just learned that the Ti4800 is an 8x AGP Ti4600.

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