Bought these (retro) hardware today

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Re: Bought these (retro) hardware today

Postby 386_junkie » 2018-1-02 @ 19:59

Artex wrote:
meljor wrote:YOU....you.... lucky creature!! :lol:

Very nice! Hope it works, what's the tlc? Bend pins? If that's the case they very rarely brake on a 486 cpu afaik so it shouldn't be a problem.

Yeah, I don't even wanna show the other side. :( This clearly came from a scrap lot years ago and the previous owner just jammed it into his Socket 3 motherboard without first straightening the pins. When I received it, I pulled it out of the board to clean it and snap some pix - 3 pins remained in the socket and 2 more we so loose that even touching them was enough to detach each . It also looks like he did a crappy job trying to solder one of the pins himself, and it literally just fell into my hands. This was the $1500 lot mentioned a while back and the seller never bothered to show the pin side of the processor - just a picture of it in the socket. Shame on me....but that's another story.


Very shady... unfortunate to hear of this kind of behaviour. I hope you get some compensation whilst being able to repair the CPU.

Regardless how much the situation is resolved, I would still leave a negative comment so other people are warned of this... not saying i'll buy from them in future but if they try something similar, I sure know I would like to know of this before bidding on any auctions they have.
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Re: Bought these (retro) hardware today

Postby 386_junkie » 2018-1-02 @ 20:00

Been quite quiet of late with little to no acquisitions... apart from this: -

Need to do a RTC job on it, but after this... should be good to go!
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Re: Bought these (retro) hardware today

Postby SW-SSG » 2018-1-02 @ 21:35

Lukeno94 wrote:IBM ThinkPad A31 - sadly not the A31p that was advertised. 1.6 GHz P4M, 16MB ATI Radeon Mobility 7500 graphics, 1GB RAM; needs some TLC and a good clean, but bar a flakey power port, it all seems to work fine.

Very nice; it seems rather uncommon to see the A series ThinkPads anymore.
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Re: Bought these (retro) hardware today

Postby martin939 » 2018-1-02 @ 21:48

I've had an A20, bought it at the local thrift store but I've got totally no idea what spec it had and what happened to it later. I wasn't into retro computing back then yet but I hope was sold rather than scrapped.
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Re: Bought these (retro) hardware today

Postby Predator99 » 2018-1-02 @ 21:54

Artex wrote:
debs3759 wrote:That disclaimer is not legally binding. If the lot is not as advertised (and it obviously isn't if it showed a boot screen for a damaged CPU) you can get a refund through eBay/Paypal.

I'm definitely going to try and recoup some of the cost. We'll see...


Shit...let us know how this goes on. The seller has 100% positive rating with 400 sells. Would be surprised if he insists on that price...
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Re: Bought these (retro) hardware today

Postby Unknown_K » 2018-1-02 @ 22:14

Lukeno94 wrote:Image
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IBM ThinkPad A31 - sadly not the A31p that was advertised. 1.6 GHz P4M, 16MB ATI Radeon Mobility 7500 graphics, 1GB RAM; needs some TLC and a good clean, but bar a flakey power port, it all seems to work fine.

The power port has a plug on the motherboard so it is an easy replacement if needed.

Not that many Working A31p units around anymore (judging from the Thinkpad forum I am a member of). I have one A31p unit and it is nice.

A series laptops are not that common anymore. Having 2 removable drive bays where you can ditch the floppy and put an extra HD in for easy backup is nice.
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Re: Bought these (retro) hardware today

Postby SteveC » 2018-1-02 @ 22:58

Awaiting delivery of another Matrox video card:

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A Matrox Mystique PCI :)

I want an m3d (PowerVR) but they're so expensive!
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Re: Bought these (retro) hardware today

Postby easy_john » 2018-1-02 @ 23:15

Looks like mga chip broken on photo.
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Re: Bought these (retro) hardware today

Postby SteveC » 2018-1-02 @ 23:22

That's not the actual card, just a photo I nicked online... hopefully mine's not broken :)
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Re: Bought these (retro) hardware today

Postby kixs » 2018-1-02 @ 23:23

That's just a scratch. And it's from vgamuseum ;)
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Re: Bought these (retro) hardware today

Postby luckybob » 2018-1-02 @ 23:24

kixs wrote:That's just a scratch. And it's from vgamuseum ;)


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Re: Bought these (retro) hardware today

Postby Ozzuneoj » 2018-1-02 @ 23:54

I got a box of stuff in the mail today... complete garbage. :lol:

It was a super cheap lot... the shipping was free and I paid probably a third of what it cost to ship this... I have no idea why they even bothered. There were some interesting looking pieces in the lot (namely, a card that I'm 99% certain is an STB Nitro ISA... a Cirrus Logic card which is one of the best ISA VGA cards around). Sadly, that card and a couple others that were supposed to be included weren't even in the box! There was, unexpectedly a TYAN S1854 motherboard and a Number 9 "Ticket 2 Ride" Revolution 3D AGP, which is neat, but both will need some minor repairs. Aside from this, the rest of the stuff was completely destroyed. Demolished even... capacitors and snapped off memory slot clips were laying all over in the box, no packaging etc.

I guess I should be glad the good stuff wasn't in the box... I doubt it would have survived. :lol:

Anyone know if the Revolution 3D has any special uses, like proprietary 3D accelerated games or anything?
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Re: Bought these (retro) hardware today

Postby RJDog » 2018-1-03 @ 02:34

386_junkie wrote:Been quite quiet of late with little to no acquisitions... apart from this: -

Need to do a RTC job on it, but after this... should be good to go!

Oh man! I had one of these back in ~2000 (even then kind of past its prime)... great find. Wish I still had mine.
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Re: Bought these (retro) hardware today

Postby gdjacobs » 2018-1-03 @ 02:57

Artex wrote:I'm definitely going to try and recoup some of the cost. We'll see...


Also, make sure you crap all over his seller rating. Gotta sift the wheat from the chaff.

Having said that, you're Artex, Wolf of eBay. You're probably just sandbagging until the plan comes to fruition.
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Re: Bought these (retro) hardware today

Postby Dreamer_of_the_past » 2018-1-03 @ 03:09

meljor wrote:EDIT: looked again and at the very bottom there is: vends dans l'état, aucune réclamation Translated it means: Sold as is, no claim
That's just.......damn. Even I am pissed just when reading about it. I really hope someone can fix it for you or something.


When will you people realize that something like that does not mean anything. If you sell on eBay then you follow its policy. Whatever you put in description means nada. What really means something is under what condition you list it like New, Used, etc. For "Sold as is, no claim" you better list it under "for parts not working." All Artex has to to is to mention that the damn thing does not work and that "merci" is not gonna help him.

Don't be a fool Artex and send this junk back. You will find this processor in better condition.
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Re: Bought these (retro) hardware today

Postby luckybob » 2018-1-03 @ 03:38

ebay wrote:You have to accept the buyer's return request if:

The item is damaged or doesn't match the listing description
The request falls within your return policy


THAT SAID, all the seller needs to do is to claim Artex broke it.

ebay wrote:If you receive a different item, an item in a different condition than the way the buyer received it, or an empty package, contact the buyer and try to resolve the issue. If you're unsuccessful, report the buyer to us.


going back to the first, you can dictate your own return policy. I have mine set at "no returns". So even if I sell something as "new" I still don't offer refunds. I do my best to be totally open and honest. Hell, I just sold a mac classic II and I even told people one of the screws was the wrong type.

The seller should offer a significant refund. I wouldn't expect one, but he should.
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Re: Bought these (retro) hardware today

Postby Dreamer_of_the_past » 2018-1-03 @ 04:47

luckybob wrote:
ebay wrote:You have to accept the buyer's return request if:

The item is damaged or doesn't match the listing description
The request falls within your return policy


THAT SAID, all the seller needs to do is to claim Artex broke it.

ebay wrote:If you receive a different item, an item in a different condition than the way the buyer received it, or an empty package, contact the buyer and try to resolve the issue. If you're unsuccessful, report the buyer to us.


going back to the first, you can dictate your own return policy. I have mine set at "no returns". So even if I sell something as "new" I still don't offer refunds. I do my best to be totally open and honest. Hell, I just sold a mac classic II and I even told people one of the screws was the wrong type.

The seller should offer a significant refund. I wouldn't expect one, but he should.


eBay is my second home. I shop a lot and I had been screwed over many time by some sellers, but not a single loss. I always get my money back.
No you can't dictate you own policy unless you sell on your own site and not eBay. Yes, eBay lets you change some options and that's about it. Yes, you can set your auctions at "no returns", but now go ahead and read what's written under it. That's right, it says "Money Back Guarantee: Get the item you ordered or get your money back."
Which is why 99% of the time eBay sides with a buyer. OK?
And yes, seller will take a hit because he did not picture those pins on the processor, so the game will be over pretty quick whether he accepts returns or not. This is 100% winning situation. If anything goes wrong, Artex can send me a PM and I'll tell him what to do next.
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Re: Bought these (retro) hardware today

Postby luckybob » 2018-1-03 @ 05:19

*SCOFFS DERISIVELY*

I recently bought a cheap tape dispenser, some tape, peanuts and bubble wrap all in one order from someone with like 100k+ feedback. They never shipped the dispenser. they ignored my email, and sent it to ebay for a decision. ebay immediately dismissed my claim as according to the tracking number, it was delivered. Even went so far as to physically call ebay. The person on the phone LITERALLY asked me "can you prove it wasnt in the box?".

Oh, and I wasn't allowed to leave negative feedback either was the REAL cherry on that suck salad. "you cannot leave neutral or negative feedback after a dismissed claim"

I'm pissed just writing about it. All over a $5 tape dispenser.

Fuck Supplyhut. Fuck them right in the ear.
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Re: Bought these (retro) hardware today

Postby TheAbandonwareGuy » 2018-1-03 @ 05:56

luckybob wrote:
ebay wrote:You have to accept the buyer's return request if:

The item is damaged or doesn't match the listing description
The request falls within your return policy


THAT SAID, all the seller needs to do is to claim Artex broke it.

ebay wrote:If you receive a different item, an item in a different condition than the way the buyer received it, or an empty package, contact the buyer and try to resolve the issue. If you're unsuccessful, report the buyer to us.


going back to the first, you can dictate your own return policy. I have mine set at "no returns". So even if I sell something as "new" I still don't offer refunds. I do my best to be totally open and honest. Hell, I just sold a mac classic II and I even told people one of the screws was the wrong type.

The seller should offer a significant refund. I wouldn't expect one, but he should.


Any seller that does that has something to hide or isn't practicing solid business ethics. If there product which is supposedly working is good enough for my money, it better at least arrive in working order. If it fails 20 minutes in (as several GPUs have done on me), oh well that's on me.

That being said: eBay needs a better fraudulent return prevention system.
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Re: Bought these (retro) hardware today

Postby Unknown_K » 2018-1-03 @ 06:00

If you list ANYTHING under the "used" category you are stating the item is in usable/working condition.
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