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Reply 26200 of 52943, by Munx

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cyclone3d wrote:
Edit: Apparently is uses what looks like the last video chipset that Oak Technologies released: MediaGraphics 3D 64 OTI6464217 […]
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Edit: Apparently is uses what looks like the last video chipset that Oak Technologies released:
MediaGraphics 3D 64 OTI6464217

Edit2: Here is some more info on it... Has Direct3d support as well.
https://www.thefreelibrary.com/Oak+Technology … r...-a018489130

Never knew OAK made 3D accelerators. I wonder what the performance for this thing was like.

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Reply 26201 of 52943, by SW-SSG

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cyclone3d wrote:

...Edit2: Here is some more info on it... Has Direct3d support as well.
https://www.thefreelibrary.com/Oak+Technology … r...-a018489130

Eon's Direct3D acceleration combines the use of host-based rendering with a dedicated graphics hardware "pipe" to accelerate the transfer of images from system memory to the graphics display. ...

Smells like software rendering to me. I could be wrong, though. The WARP 5 (OTI 64317) that would have come out following the above OTI 64217 was supposed to have real hardware-based 3D-rendering going on.

Pretty nice to see an OTI 64217 card around; these seem to be exceptionally rare, even more so than the other PCI-based Oak graphics chips.

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Reply 26202 of 52943, by canthearu

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I picked up a couple of Pentium Class computers yesterday, was mainly interested in the AT case that one of them was in, but got a couple of working pentiums too.

After all the tribulations with the CT2860 I posted earlier, I got the following ISA cards

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First of all, a much better SB16, the CT2810 ... It has fairly good output quality, real OPL3 and IDE interface for old 386/486 computers. I like it.

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Second card, a Yamaha YMF719E-S. Another good card with decent output, OPL3 and IDE support.

Quite chuffed with my purchase yesterday.

Reply 26204 of 52943, by canthearu

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yawetaG wrote:

Those will be IDE CD-ROM support, not for hard disks, and certainly not for booting off whatever is connected to it.

Very true. Although, It might work with hard drives in combination with XT-IDE to provide BIOS support for the I/O ports it uses.

Reply 26205 of 52943, by Predator99

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canthearu wrote:
yawetaG wrote:

Those will be IDE CD-ROM support, not for hard disks, and certainly not for booting off whatever is connected to it.

Very true. Although, It might work with hard drives in combination with XT-IDE to provide BIOS support for the I/O ports it uses.

This connector will for sure also work with hard disks when you have a driver. Problem with this card is that it needs to be initialized by the sound card driver before the IDE-port works. Therefore XT-IDE is not an option.
But for jumpered sound cards which run without initilization the "CD-ROM" connector works also with harddisks and XT-IDE can boot with them...

Reply 26206 of 52943, by canthearu

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Predator99 wrote:

This connector will for sure also work with hard disks when you have a driver. Problem with this card is that it needs to be initialized by the sound card driver before the IDE-port works. Therefore XT-IDE is not an option.
But for jumpered sound cards which run without initilization the "CD-ROM" connector works also with harddisks and XT-IDE can boot with them...

The yamaha card, is plug and play and wouldn't work.

The SB16 card is plug and play for the soundcard part, but jumpered for the ide port, so it would actually work fine.

Not that I really planned to ever put a hard drive on these sound cards. I will only use the IDE portion for a CD drive on my 386 computer. My other computers have dual IDE already, so no need to use the IDE on the sound cards.

Edit: I am just thrilled to have a SB16 with OPL3 that actually has good output.

Reply 26207 of 52943, by Vegge

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Todays pickup 😎
C128 with accessories, games and books 😀

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With it's new family

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Reply 26208 of 52943, by appiah4

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My $30 486 set arrived:

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I could have gone for another set with 8KB WB Am486-DX4/100 but that did not have a VLB IO card and came with just a VLB 5424.. I think this was the better deal (as I already had some WT i486 and Am486 DX4-100 parts but no DX4-75s)

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Reply 26209 of 52943, by liqmat

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appiah4 wrote:
My $30 486 set arrived: […]
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My $30 486 set arrived:

Chicony-CH-471-A.jpg Intel-486-DX4-75.jpg Pine-Technology-PT524-8-G.jpg

Pine-Technology-PT-628-A.jpg Surecom-EP-312-V.jpg

I could have gone for another set with 8KB WB Am486-DX4/100 but that did not have a VLB IO card and came with just a VLB 5424.. I think this was the better deal (as I already had some WT i486 and Am486 DX4-100 parts but no DX4-75s)

Not a bad deal.

Reply 26210 of 52943, by appiah4

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Ooops, forgot to ask this question: The motherboard seems to have a barrel battery but it's not NiCd (or NiMh), but Lithium.. Do these leak? It's old but appears to not have leaked so far. It's probably worth replacing regardless, but should I just unsolder it completely and use an external battery, or would replacing it with a 3.6V Lithium battery be safe?

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Reply 26211 of 52943, by bjwil1991

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Desolder the Lithium battery assembly (post, battery, the whole 9 yards), purchase a 3.6V Lithium battery and a battery holder for the battery itself. The 3.6V Lithium batteries aren't as prone to leakage, but, that can take a serious amount of neglect to get those things to leak, such as exposed moisture (humidity, laying in the sun for a long time), or not getting removed after a certain amount of time. I suggest using a temporary battery, such as 3x AA battery holder that'll connect to the battery jumper leads that looks like it's between the two ISA slots on the left side of the board until you get the new Lithium 3.6V battery and the holder for it as well.

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Reply 26212 of 52943, by schlang

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kixs wrote:

If you have CL-GD5434 card, I'd like to see some benchmarks between them in DOS.

I have an ISA Orchid Kelvin 64 if that counts?

PC#1: K6-III+ 400 | 512MB | Geforce4 | Voodoo1 | SB Live | AWE64 | GUS PNP Pro
PC#2: 486DX2-66 | 64MB | Riva128 | AWE64 | GUS PNP | PAS16
PC#3: 386DX-40 | 32MB | CL-GD5434 | SB Pro | GUS MAX | PAS16

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Reply 26213 of 52943, by brostenen

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Vegge wrote:
Todays pickup :cool: C128 with accessories, games and books :) […]
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Todays pickup 😎
C128 with accessories, games and books 😀

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With it's new family

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Sweet.... Congrats with the 128. It is looking like in good condition.

Don't eat stuff off a 15 year old never cleaned cpu cooler.
Those cakes make you sick....

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Reply 26214 of 52943, by appiah4

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bjwil1991 wrote:

Desolder the Lithium battery assembly (post, battery, the whole 9 yards), purchase a 3.6V Lithium battery and a battery holder for the battery itself. The 3.6V Lithium batteries aren't as prone to leakage, but, that can take a serious amount of neglect to get those things to leak, such as exposed moisture (humidity, laying in the sun for a long time), or not getting removed after a certain amount of time. I suggest using a temporary battery, such as 3x AA battery holder that'll connect to the battery jumper leads that looks like it's between the two ISA slots on the left side of the board until you get the new Lithium 3.6V battery and the holder for it as well.

Happen to have both a 3.6V AA Li battery and its AA holder as well as a 3xAA battery holder for using rechargable AAs; but if it is mostly safe I would be happy to just replace the battery with a new Li 3.6 1/2AA (I think?) one and call it a day..

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Reply 26215 of 52943, by brostenen

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Bought a trapdoor cover for the Amiga500 that I am fixing up. The price is ok, and the thing is a bit yellow and dirty. It can always be cleaned, and I will be spray painting the machine outside in the garden next year when the weather is dry and warm.

Don't eat stuff off a 15 year old never cleaned cpu cooler.
Those cakes make you sick....

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Reply 26216 of 52943, by Windows9566

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I just got some retro stuff

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Atari 2600 Light Sixer with composite mod
Sony Playstation SCPH-5501 with MM3 modchip
SCPH-1200 Dualshock Clear
Pentium 120
Pentium MMX 200
ASUS TX97-XV Socket 7 ATX 430TX Chipset (Hewlett Packard OEM)

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Macintosh Performa 6200CD (PowerPC 603 75 MHz, 64mb ram, 4gb hard drive, System 7.5.5)
Intel TigerEye TE430VX Socket 7 ATX 430VX Chipset (Gateway OEM)
Pentium 90 \
Pentium 100 ------------ on top of a box of Holiday Time christmas lights that i just bought (not retro tech but i used it as a platform for the CPUs)
Pentium 166 /
Sound Blaster Pro 2 CT1600
Sound Blaster 16 CT1740

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And some Peripherals

Gravis PC Gamepad
Microsoft Serial PS/2 Compatible Mouse (Dove Bar mouse)
2x Microsoft Mouse Port Compatible Mice

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Moar stuff

Califone 2924AV-PS headphones
Gravis Analog Pro Joystick
Gateway Solo 2550
Gateway 2000 Keyboard
AppleDesign Keyboard
Apple Desktop Bus Mouse 1
Apple Desktop Bus Mouse 2

R5 5600X, 32 GB RAM, RTX 3060 TI, Win11
P3 600, 256 MB RAM, nVidia Riva TNT2 M64, SB Vibra 16S, Win98
PMMX 200, 128 MB RAM, S3 Virge DX, Yamaha YMF719, Win95
486DX2 66, 32 MB RAM, Trident TGUI9440, ESS ES688F, DOS

Reply 26218 of 52943, by Windows9566

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both the bioses are pretty restricted, the hp one is a bit more than the gateway one

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P3 600, 256 MB RAM, nVidia Riva TNT2 M64, SB Vibra 16S, Win98
PMMX 200, 128 MB RAM, S3 Virge DX, Yamaha YMF719, Win95
486DX2 66, 32 MB RAM, Trident TGUI9440, ESS ES688F, DOS

Reply 26219 of 52943, by appiah4

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Windows9566 wrote:

both the bioses are pretty restricted, the hp one is a bit more than the gateway one

Can they be flashed to their non-oem Award/AMI/Phoenix BIOSes?

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