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Bought these (retro) hardware today

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Reply 4340 of 52886, by nforce4max

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easy_john wrote:
And I found another new isa-usb hub: http://www.simtec.co.uk/products/EB1161ISA/card-senw-sml.jpg http://www.simtec.co.uk/produ […]
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And I found another new isa-usb hub:
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http://www.simtec.co.uk/products/EB1161ISA/

Dude I never thought those even existed 😲

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Reply 4341 of 52886, by schlang

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Well at least it will bring some benefits to my retro pc 😀

it comes with a DOS device driver CH375DOS.SYS so I will give it a try in the next couple of days.

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Reply 4342 of 52886, by Great Hierophant

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I needed a good motherboard for my Gateway BX system, since the built-in motherboard was almost certainly manufactured by Intel and thus too inflexible. So I bought this for $20 shipped today :

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I also bought a 3Com 3C905B-TX 10/100 PCI Network Card for $10 shipped because the existing 3Com card inside my system is only a 10mbit card. The 3Com cards are nice for three reasons :

1. They were ubiquitous back in the day, making them cheap today;

2. They work with a DOS Packet Driver, and

3. Windows 98SE has built-in driver support for these cards.

I'm too lazy to burn CD-Rs, so with a large hard drive and the 3.47 version of Daemon Tools, most disc images should work and they will transfer must faster at 100mbit. The only images I had trouble with were ones with CD Audio tracks.

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Reply 4343 of 52886, by vetz

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ASUS P3B-F with 2 ISA slots... Damn that's a good buy! My favorite 440BX motherboard. Any plans to run a Tualatin in it? Just needs pinmodded CPU and FCPGA slotklet, so it's pretty easy/cheap to do.

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Reply 4344 of 52886, by keropi

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schlang wrote:

Well at least it will bring some benefits to my retro pc 😀

it comes with a DOS device driver CH375DOS.SYS so I will give it a try in the next couple of days.

give it a go but from my experience the device driver alone means nothing unfortunately... you will also need a USB stack to support mass storage devices or HID devices or whatever, that comes at a high memory and cpu time cost... but maybe things are different now, please don't forget to report back on this! 😊

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Reply 4345 of 52886, by Great Hierophant

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ASUS P3B-F with 2 ISA slots... Damn that's a good buy! My favorite 440BX motherboard. Any plans to run a Tualatin in it? Just needs pinmodded CPU and FCPGA slotklet, so it's pretty easy/cheap to do.

Nope, just a slot 1 Pentium III 600E. I hope that increasing the FSB to 133MHz will be stable. I bought this board because it was one of the more stable of the slot 1 BX boards. Not wild about some of the component placements.

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Reply 4346 of 52886, by Mau1wurf1977

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Intel BX440 is very fast, even on 100 FSB. Personally I don't like to overclock old hardware such as this. If you want more performance there are great Socket 370 motherboards with Intel 815 B step chipset that take the Tualatin 1.4 GHz. No ISA slot however.

I'm currently testing Slot 1 processors for my Voodoo 2 project. That should give a good comparison between Slot 1 and Socket 370.

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Reply 4347 of 52886, by vetz

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Great Hierophant wrote:
vetz wrote:

ASUS P3B-F with 2 ISA slots... Damn that's a good buy! My favorite 440BX motherboard. Any plans to run a Tualatin in it? Just needs pinmodded CPU and FCPGA slotklet, so it's pretty easy/cheap to do.

Nope, just a slot 1 Pentium III 600E. I hope that increasing the FSB to 133MHz will be stable. I bought this board because it was one of the more stable of the slot 1 BX boards. Not wild about some of the component placements.

I also see there is an custom chipset cooler on your card. Normally it's a heatsink. I agree that the floppy and ATX connector placements could've been better, but it's very stable, all bios settings, fast, supports the Tualatin and I've had no problems with 133mhz FSB. From the benchmarks I've seen the 440BX is faster with the 1.4 Tualatin than the I815 & VIA chipsets.

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Reply 4348 of 52886, by meljor

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I agree, i don`t like overclocking the (nice) old stuff either.

I have the same board with a 700mhz p3 and if i want to use a faster system i simply take a faster one. No need to let these very fine boards die early for the sake of a few mhz.
I do overclock my k6-3+ system but only the cpu because it can handle it very well and has a BIG cooler. Only by multiplier because i don`t want to stress that board also.

Asus p3b-f is awesome and runs just about every classic game blazing fast with windows 98se, i use it with a voodoo3 3000 agp and awe64.

Still looking for another board just to have a spare, they become much less common (when you don`t use ebay, like me). Asus p2b(-f) seems to be very good too, maybe i take that as a spare.

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Reply 4349 of 52886, by Stojke

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I am rigging mine P2B-DS with dual PowerLeap slocket and Tualatin 1.4GHz P3-S. I just got the graphics card i will use in it - Asus GeForce 4400 Ti Deluxe (card used in Serbian BK Television a long time ago)

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Reply 4350 of 52886, by easy_john

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Bught "Hi-Val Sountastic Wave 32".
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Sealed card.
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That turned in to AZTech ...
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Even docs and drives for AZTech.
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Reply 4351 of 52886, by Mau1wurf1977

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Arrived a while ago but I only tested it today. 1 DVI in, 4 out. Works as advertised, quite happy. Makes it easier now to capture DVI while playing.

When switching resolutions it takes a bit longer to update, but otherwise it's fine.

Got it from eBay, new, $27.

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Reply 4352 of 52886, by mwdmeyer

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Just picked up a V4 4500 AGP in box 😁

I've wanted a nice 3dfx branded V4 4500 AGP for a while due to the 1.5volt AGP support and I just like to collect them...

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Reply 4353 of 52886, by Mau1wurf1977

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Nice!

I couldn't justify it, but what I nice package 😀

So the 4500 is the only one with AGP 1.5V support?

Performance wise between the V3 and V5 5500?

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Reply 4354 of 52886, by mwdmeyer

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Mau1wurf1977 wrote:
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Nice!

I couldn't justify it, but what I nice package 😀

So the 4500 is the only one with AGP 1.5V support?

Performance wise between the V3 and V5 5500?

Thanks! Yeah it is the only model with 1.5v support. Powercolor made some V4s but even those didn't support 1.5v (although I believe there is a mod that can be done on them).

Based on my testing the V4 4500 is a lot faster than the V3 3000, not sure about the V3 3500 yet. In Quake 3 the V4/V5 are a very similar speed at 800x600 and lower. At 1280x1024 the V5 is double the speed of the V4.

I have some benchmarks here: http://www.vogonswiki.com/index.php/3dfx_Benchmarks

IMHO the V4 is a good video card, nothing like the Geforce 2 MX in terms of speed, but the quality is great and the cards works really well. I think they're great, although if it were the year 2000 again it would be hard to purchase one when the 2 MX is so much faster.

Most people think that the V3/V4 are very similar in speed but my testing doesn't show this, the V4 is clearly better (at least in Quake 3).

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Reply 4355 of 52886, by Mau1wurf1977

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These cards need a beefy CPU to show what they can do 😀

Tualatin 1400 on a 815 chipset would be a good match. I was disappointed by the P4. Might the longer pipeline, not sure...

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Reply 4356 of 52886, by mwdmeyer

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Yeah. Currently I think I'll use my Althon 1200, that motherboard does 3.3 volts for the other 3dfx cards. The Athlon 1200 + Voodoo 5 is a pretty good match in terms of age.

A Tualatin 1400 would be awesome, but don't have one...

I've got Tualatin-S 1.2GHz but no mobo.

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Reply 4357 of 52886, by idspispopd

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Voodoo3 3000 and Voodoo4 4500 have the same memory bandwidth, fill rate and triangle throughput.
My guess as to why the 4500 is faster at higher resolutions is that it has more RAM so less texture swapping is going on - the 3000 only has 16 MB and it doesn't really use any AGP features so texture uploads are slower on a TNT or TNT2.
See also this (possibly CPU limited with a PIII 850?) and this (not CPU limited for several benchmarks) test.

Reply 4358 of 52886, by dirkmirk

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Evergreen AMD 5x86-133, will try to run this at 150 or 160mhz in a vlb system.
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UK ebay sale price about $5USD about $25 shipped to Australia, no other bidders and my max bid was the sale price....

Must have been the cryptic language that made this one slip under the radar or perhaps no interest from English buyers?

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Vintage-Computing- … cvip=true&rt=nc

Reply 4359 of 52886, by dacow

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dirkmirk wrote:

Must have been the cryptic language that made this one slip under the radar or perhaps no interest from English buyers?

Thats an awesome find 😀 I have no idea how you guys find these obscure stuff 😀