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Reply 46840 of 52760, by TrashPanda

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Kahenraz wrote on 2022-10-27, 06:59:

Is that the same Alliance 2D chip used on the 3dfx Voodoo Rush?

Voodoo Rush used the Promotion AT25, this one is the 3210 so likely a newer revision.

Edit .. the 3210 is older, the AT25 is 1997 and the 3210 is 1994 if the numbers are right.

Reply 46841 of 52760, by H3nrik V!

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DundyTheCroc wrote on 2022-10-27, 06:55:
Got a box, full with computer stuff, for 5$. There are some DDR2/DDR3 ECC RAMs, SCSI adapter, AGP video card, TV tuner, PCMCIA c […]
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Got a box, full with computer stuff, for 5$. There are some DDR2/DDR3 ECC RAMs, SCSI adapter, AGP video card, TV tuner, PCMCIA cards, but the most interesting thing is PCI video card with ProMotion 3210 chip.
There is no many info for that card, do you know is it good or bad one?
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Funny, the "PCX2" text on the label suggests some PowerVR stuff, but doesn't seem likely since no PowerVR chip is present ... 😀

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Reply 46844 of 52760, by S95Sedan

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Collected a couple more pieces for my main retro rig, already have quite a lineup of slot 1 cpu's but didnt have a slotket adapter yet. So incase i want to try some of the socket 370 cpu's. (Came with a celeron 500 aswell)

Pentium II 450Mhz speaks for itself. Early datecode, possibly unlocked. (Current board giving some issues so still needs some further testing.)

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Reply 46845 of 52760, by TrashPanda

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S95Sedan wrote on 2022-10-27, 11:01:

Collected a couple more pieces for my main retro rig, already have quite a lineup of slot 1 cpu's but didnt have a slotket adapter yet. So incase i want to try some of the socket 370 cpu's. (Came with a celeron 500 aswell)

Pentium II 450Mhz speaks for itself. Early datecode, possibly unlocked. (Current board giving some issues so still needs some further testing.)

Im just jumping into Soltkets too, Got a Abit Slotket III and just grabbed a New OpenBox SOLTEK SL-02A++ Rev 4.5, the Soltek has a ton of extra circuitry on it so hopefully itll be able to run newer P3 CPUs. (If I need to Ill mod the Slotket III as I have docs for doing that )

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This now means I have two good Slotkets that I can use to run SMP P3s on my P2B-D ...lots of fun stuff to explore here 😁

Reply 46846 of 52760, by HanSolo

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TrashPanda wrote on 2022-10-27, 03:17:
Plenty of reports of this Slotket happily running Tualerons, the bigger question is will it run a Tualatin 1.4s ..I dont know si […]
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HanSolo wrote on 2022-10-27, 02:43:
TrashPanda wrote on 2022-10-27, 01:31:

Bought this Abit BE6-II Raid board with a Abit Slotket III, Paid more than I would normally but the Slotket III is stupidly expensive on its own so this deal was less than what the Slotket goes for by itself. I have a nice Tualeron 1300 Im going to throw in the Slotket till I can get another 1400s then itll be replacing the slot 1 P3 I have.

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I may be wrong, but as far as I know this Slotket does not support Tualatin-CPUs. So why is it expensive?

Plenty of reports of this Slotket happily running Tualerons, the bigger question is will it run a Tualatin 1.4s ..I dont know since I cant find any reports of one running a 1.4s, there are a few posts about people doing mods to the slotket to get it to run CPUs it was never intended to run, even a few simple wire mods. The BE6-II supports the right voltages and bus speeds as does the Slotket, so I guess I will find out when it arrives but there is plenty of modding info out there. Worst comes to worst I have a bunch of different P3 CPUs and even a few non -s Tualatins all above 1ghz to test with.

As to why the Abit Slotket III is expensive .. likely due to rarity, the two ive seen listed sold for silly amounts.

This Slotket business is new to me but I like to tinker and mod things so this will give me a project to tinker with.

You mean unmodded Tualatins on an unmodded Slotket? That would be interesting because as far as I know the Abit Slotket does nothing special compared to Noname ones. Yes, you can set the core voltage but that is not the actual problem with Tualatins. However I'd be really interested in hearing about your results!

Reply 46847 of 52760, by Socket3

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devius wrote on 2022-10-25, 17:34:
Socket3 wrote on 2022-10-25, 14:39:

Slightly unrelated, I made a bit of time to test the AT "Sprint" 266Mhz pentium II and found a few oddities. For one the CPU was set at 300Mhz. I tought it was upgraded,so I looked inside the PC and the CPU case sais 266MHz. Seems perfectly stable, but I tought all pentium II CPUs had a locked multiplier... odd. It also works fine - booted right up into windows 95.

Have you checked the FSB? I ran my Pentium II 266MHz at 300MHz for about 7 years, back in the day, by setting the FSB to 75MHz.

OK I just had a closer look at the system. I checked the FSB in windows with AIDA and it's 66MHz. The "CPU Speed" option changes the multiplier, ranging from 2x to... 7.5x (133 to 500MHz). Under that there's a "Overclocking" option, witch changes the FSB independently. Here are some pics:

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I tried "133MHz" and the PC posted at 133Mhz. I ran AIDA to validate and then ran Quake 2. I also tried 333Mhz, but it freezes in quake 2. The PC was set to 300 when I got it and it's perfectly stable at that speed. There is no option to change CPU voltage unfortunately... if it had that as well it would make this little board rival the likes of ABIT BH6 and BE6... Still, pretty cool.

I'm still not 100% convinced the CPU is working the magic - because I have a locked (as far as I know) 333MHz - SLKA - and I was able to set it to 366Mhz. It didn't post, but on other boards it just boots up at 333Mhz ignoring anything higher then 5x

Reply 46848 of 52760, by gmaverick2k

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K7VT4A PRO - socket A, Athlon xp 2800+ installed. works with my cx600, fx 5900xt, nec usb2.0 and vortex 2 > sc-55 midi bliss 😀
now i need to enable sata, reinstall windows 98 and see if any conflicts occur if any
12043 3d marks 2001se on default 😀 😀 😀

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Reply 46849 of 52760, by HanSolo

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Socket3 wrote on 2022-10-27, 15:07:
OK I just had a closer look at the system. I checked the FSB in windows with AIDA and it's 66MHz. The "CPU Speed" option changes […]
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devius wrote on 2022-10-25, 17:34:
Socket3 wrote on 2022-10-25, 14:39:

Slightly unrelated, I made a bit of time to test the AT "Sprint" 266Mhz pentium II and found a few oddities. For one the CPU was set at 300Mhz. I tought it was upgraded,so I looked inside the PC and the CPU case sais 266MHz. Seems perfectly stable, but I tought all pentium II CPUs had a locked multiplier... odd. It also works fine - booted right up into windows 95.

Have you checked the FSB? I ran my Pentium II 266MHz at 300MHz for about 7 years, back in the day, by setting the FSB to 75MHz.

OK I just had a closer look at the system. I checked the FSB in windows with AIDA and it's 66MHz. The "CPU Speed" option changes the multiplier, ranging from 2x to... 7.5x (133 to 500MHz). Under that there's a "Overclocking" option, witch changes the FSB independently. Here are some pics:

AivF2Esl.jpg GQJag2Ml.jpg

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xAXGRJCl.jpg

I tried "133MHz" and the PC posted at 133Mhz. I ran AIDA to validate and then ran Quake 2. I also tried 333Mhz, but it freezes in quake 2. The PC was set to 300 when I got it and it's perfectly stable at that speed. There is no option to change CPU voltage unfortunately... if it had that as well it would make this little board rival the likes of ABIT BH6 and BE6... Still, pretty cool.

I'm still not 100% convinced the CPU is working the magic - because I have a locked (as far as I know) 333MHz - SLKA - and I was able to set it to 366Mhz. It didn't post, but on other boards it just boots up at 333Mhz ignoring anything higher then 5x

All Pentium II with Klamath-core (A80522) and some early versions with Deschutes (A80523) are unlocked in the sense that they accept multipliers up to the default one. I was even able so set one 0.5 higher than default, but for some reason I could not repeat that later.

The adjustable VCore in the BIOS was one of the main selling points of the BH6 back in the days 😀 It made overclocking incredibly comfortable

Reply 46850 of 52760, by gmaverick2k

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just took off the sata>ide adpater and connecrted directly to sata. enabled sata in bios. loaded without reinstall. noice

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Reply 46851 of 52760, by PARKE

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TrashPanda wrote on 2022-10-27, 11:15:
Im just jumping into Soltkets too, Got a Abit Slotket III and just grabbed a New OpenBox SOLTEK SL-02A++ Rev 4.5, the Soltek has […]
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Im just jumping into Soltkets too, Got a Abit Slotket III and just grabbed a New OpenBox SOLTEK SL-02A++ Rev 4.5, the Soltek has a ton of extra circuitry on it so hopefully itll be able to run newer P3 CPUs. (If I need to Ill mod the Slotket III as I have docs for doing that )
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This now means I have two good Slotkets that I can use to run SMP P3s on my P2B-D ...lots of fun stuff to explore here 😁

That Soltek revision 4.5 runs all Coppermines so no worry there.

Reply 46852 of 52760, by DundyTheCroc

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Decided to test that strange Alliance 3210 video card and it is slow 😀
Test system is Digital Venturis 575 (P75MHz, 56MB RAM, 256KB cache, SiS5502+SiS5503 chipset).
The CPU is from 1994 like Alliance 3210, so it is periodic correct.
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Speedsys reports that Alliance memory is 6053KB/s, S3 Trio 15898KB/s and S3 Virge 24831KB/s, so my conclusion is that Alliance 3210 is slow because of the memory, Trio and Virge hit the wall because of the slow CPU.

Reply 46853 of 52760, by pentiumspeed

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Try to fill the alliance video card with another 1MB memory chips, might improve the performance?

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Reply 46854 of 52760, by H3nrik V!

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DundyTheCroc wrote on 2022-10-27, 08:43:

Yep, no PCX2 chip here, but a year ago I got Matrox M3D for 2.5$ 😀

Didn't want to know that .. I poured out €160 for mine 😭

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Reply 46855 of 52760, by TrashPanda

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Saw these for sale while poking around one of my favorite junk sellers and couldn't resist grabbing them, two 4x30 pin Simmverters and three 2x72 pin Simmverters, they dont look to be terribly complicated PCBs so I wonder how hard it would be to opensource them.

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Reply 46856 of 52760, by DundyTheCroc

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pentiumspeed wrote on 2022-10-27, 19:25:

Try to fill the alliance video card with another 1MB memory chips, might improve the performance?

Cheers,

Nice idea, but I do not have extra memory chips.

Reply 46857 of 52760, by Kahenraz

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TrashPanda wrote on 2022-10-28, 07:59:

Saw these for sale while poking around one of my favorite junk sellers and couldn't resist grabbing them, two 4x30 pin Simmverters and three 2x72 pin Simmverters, they dont look to be terribly complicated PCBs so I wonder how hard it would be to opensource them.

These memory adapters are always super cool to see. I have one of them somewhere that I keep for the lulz.

Reply 46858 of 52760, by Vynix

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Didn't buy this today but roughly last week (23rd of October to be exact), received it today.

An Asanté EN/SC SCSI Ethernet converter, going to use it with my LC II (after I replace the caps, of course), I plan to use the PDS slot for an Apple IIe card, if I can find one (probably not going to happen in a bazillion years, but one can dream, right?), so for networking the LC II that doesn't let me with many options.

It didn't come with a power supply though, and from what I read the original PSU was a 12V 1.25A power brick outputting AC (which gets internally rectified to DC using a bridge rectifier on the EN/SC's board), the closest compatible power brick I have outputs 12V DC at 1.2A, so I went with that and the EN/SC sprang up to life.

Though the tricky part, Asante explicitly stated on their driver disk Readme file that this adapter will not work on 68040-based and PowerPC-based Macs... So I guess testing it on my Power Macintosh 7500 is out of the window? I still kind of want to try anyways for science to sate my curiosity...

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Reply 46859 of 52760, by GuillermoXT

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GuillermoXT wrote on 2022-10-26, 10:03:
PC Hoarder Patrol wrote on 2022-10-26, 03:18:
Between FCC ID (J4EM101), and this link -https://tldp.org/HOWTO/html_single/BTTV/ - suggests its an "AVerMedia AVer FunTV Lite […]
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GuillermoXT wrote on 2022-10-26, 02:16:
Got this Tv tuner card Anyone who knows where to find some Software and Drivers? TVTuner.jpg TvTuner1.jpg TvTuner2.jpg […]
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Got this Tv tuner card
Anyone who knows where to find some Software and Drivers?
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Between FCC ID (J4EM101), and this link -https://tldp.org/HOWTO/html_single/BTTV/ - suggests its an "AVerMedia AVer FunTV Lite (ISA, AV3001 chipset) M101.C"

This is the only download I can find atm (also listed online as averfun.zip)

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Cool thanks very much 🙂

Glad the seller noticed that he forgot to send the floppy and manual. I've got both today - where can i upload the driver files for those who might need them too?

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