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Reply 48100 of 52819, by TrashPanda

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I don't normally look at ISA video cards but I do have a few of them for my 486 machine, but while browsing around Evilbay I ran across a S3 model I have never heard of with S3 branding that I have also never seen before, its a Photon Torpedo 2Mb ISA card. Card appears to be MVGA but all the sources suggest its an XVGA card that can handle resolutions up to 1024x768 @ 70Hz or 1280 x 1024 @ 43Hz Interlaced eww, Looks to have a normal VGA hook up so it should work with my 17" CRT.

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If the sticker on the back is correct then there is also a VLB version of it out there.

Certainly an oddity for me, I thought I had seen pretty much every version of the S3 logo out there, adding this one to my collection as 2Mb ISA GPUs are always nice to have.

Reply 48102 of 52819, by pentiumspeed

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JSO wrote on 2023-02-19, 12:12:

Not a weird logo of S3. It's the first logo that company used.

Yes, this is early logo, S3 went through 3 logo revisions. Most common logo is second gen. The last gen was towards end of the S3 existence.

If one revises the logo too frequently meant the company management team had issues with product goals and mismanagements, buggy hardware, etc and consumers that wants is outpacing the business's.

This is exactly what happened to facebook right now, they are now trying to brush up interest by changing their branding to meta-something. Yes right, facebook.

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Reply 48103 of 52819, by Standard Def Steve

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I picked up an ATI built PCI Radeon 9250 for $3 today. This one has 256MB of VRAM and accesses it across a 128 bit memory bus to boot!
So it's a bit of shame, then, that all of my PCs happen to be way too cool to be caught playing with a piece of unrelenting crud like the PCI 9250. In fact, I had to turn off the lights, lock the doors, and promise that nobody was looking before my Pentium III PC would even let this deplorable video card anywhere near its PCI slot!

Fortunately, I have a beige G3 which would gladly take a card like this over its ultra lame onboard Rage Pro. But before flashing the card's video BIOS for the Mac, I decided to have a bit of fun. I overclocked the core, memory, and stuck it in a machine with an overclocked PCI bus. The results were actually quite glorific for a 9250...not just any 9250, but a PCI one! The lowest of the low!

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Reply 48104 of 52819, by Kahenraz

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The 9250 is a solid performer. The only major issue I have with ATI cards is their awful 16-bit dithering. It's a shame how terrible it is. Maybe the random dithering works better on a CRT? Ordered/pattern dithering is annoying to look at and random dithering changes the pattern every frame, which makes everything shimmer.

If you're playing anything 32-bit, you're golden. All things considered, it's a great card. I'm just bitter about the dithering.

To clarify, it's not just this card. All ATI cards have crappy dithering. NVIDIA did it passably through the FX series, with 3dfx doing it masterfully. I don't know about other manufacturers.

Reply 48105 of 52819, by TrashPanda

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A pair of these little rippers 1.1Ghz 100FSB Coppermine (SL5QW ) arrived today, headed for my Asus P2B-DS, got a nice pair of slotkets for them, should be the fastest 100FSB CPUs this Rev 1.06 board can support.

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Confirmed this slotket can handle FC-PGA CPUs and has the correct voltage jumpers.

Reply 48106 of 52819, by Predator99

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I am very surprised and happy the seller accepted my price proposal. This lot seems to very interesting (sellers photos):
- golden TIGA
- IBM CGA
- Schneider EURO XT
- 286, 386, 486...
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Will report when it arrives 😀

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Reply 48108 of 52819, by HanSolo

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TrashPanda wrote on 2023-02-20, 09:00:
A pair of these little rippers 1.1Ghz 100FSB Coppermine (SL5QW ) arrived today, headed for my Asus P2B-DS, got a nice pair of sl […]
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A pair of these little rippers 1.1Ghz 100FSB Coppermine (SL5QW ) arrived today, headed for my Asus P2B-DS, got a nice pair of slotkets for them, should be the fastest 100FSB CPUs this Rev 1.06 board can support.

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Confirmed this slotket can handle FC-PGA CPUs and has the correct voltage jumpers.

Nice, how much did you pay for one CPU? I have only seen them for an insane amount of money. Even the 1Ghz is always way too expensive to justify buying it.

Reply 48109 of 52819, by TrashPanda

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HanSolo wrote on 2023-02-20, 10:37:
TrashPanda wrote on 2023-02-20, 09:00:
A pair of these little rippers 1.1Ghz 100FSB Coppermine (SL5QW ) arrived today, headed for my Asus P2B-DS, got a nice pair of sl […]
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A pair of these little rippers 1.1Ghz 100FSB Coppermine (SL5QW ) arrived today, headed for my Asus P2B-DS, got a nice pair of slotkets for them, should be the fastest 100FSB CPUs this Rev 1.06 board can support.

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Confirmed this slotket can handle FC-PGA CPUs and has the correct voltage jumpers.

Nice, how much did you pay for one CPU? I have only seen them for an insane amount of money. Even the 1Ghz is always way too expensive to justify buying it.

Way too much honestly, adding in exchange rates, taxes and import and postage costs but its not often I buy expensive rare parts, my last one I guess would have been the Voodoo5 5500. These 1.1Ghz parts are dang hard to find even on Evilbay, same applies to the 1Ghz 100FSb slot 1 PIIIs but these two even with all the extra costs were still cheaper than one slot 1 1Ghz 100FSB P3.

I don't really want to state prices ..people already get uhhh tetchy about people who pay what they consider too much.

Reply 48110 of 52819, by SrFenix

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I bought an fx5200 for €3 plus €8 shipping because it was in its box and it was cheap, when it arrived it turned out that it was pci. so without thinking I got a fx5200 pci and almost for free.

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Reply 48111 of 52819, by BitWrangler

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Predator99 wrote on 2023-02-20, 10:33:
I am very surprised and happy the seller accepted my price proposal. This lot seems to very interesting (sellers photos): - gold […]
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I am very surprised and happy the seller accepted my price proposal. This lot seems to very interesting (sellers photos):
- golden TIGA
- IBM CGA
- Schneider EURO XT
- 286, 386, 486...
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Will report when it arrives 😀

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Wow yeah, that's a wild and weird assortment. Congrats.

Unicorn herding operations are proceeding, but all the totes of hens teeth and barrels of rocking horse poop give them plenty of hiding spots.

Reply 48112 of 52819, by cyclone3d

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TrashPanda wrote on 2023-02-20, 10:59:
HanSolo wrote on 2023-02-20, 10:37:
TrashPanda wrote on 2023-02-20, 09:00:
A pair of these little rippers 1.1Ghz 100FSB Coppermine (SL5QW ) arrived today, headed for my Asus P2B-DS, got a nice pair of sl […]
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A pair of these little rippers 1.1Ghz 100FSB Coppermine (SL5QW ) arrived today, headed for my Asus P2B-DS, got a nice pair of slotkets for them, should be the fastest 100FSB CPUs this Rev 1.06 board can support.

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Confirmed this slotket can handle FC-PGA CPUs and has the correct voltage jumpers.

Nice, how much did you pay for one CPU? I have only seen them for an insane amount of money. Even the 1Ghz is always way too expensive to justify buying it.

Way too much honestly, adding in exchange rates, taxes and import and postage costs but its not often I buy expensive rare parts, my last one I guess would have been the Voodoo5 5500. These 1.1Ghz parts are dang hard to find even on Evilbay, same applies to the 1Ghz 100FSb slot 1 PIIIs but these two even with all the extra costs were still cheaper than one slot 1 1Ghz 100FSB P3.

I don't really want to state prices ..people already get uhhh tetchy about people who pay what they consider too much.

Yep, prices on certain CPUs is crazy. I've got at least 1 of the slot1 1Ghz 100fsb CPUs. Think it came with a board that I got for almost nothing. Whe I set it up, I bumped up the fsb and it runs happily at 1.16Ghz which u probably just board limited.
I might even have a couple others floating around in a dead dual slot board but not sure.

Lately I have been on a binge, buying dual socket boards. Got a dual socket A board with 2600+ CPUs included. Was hoping for 2800+, but those are super crazy hard to find and expensive when they pop up.

Same goes for the Opteron 290/890 CPUs. Can only find those in $500+ rack mount systems.

Oh yeah, I have a copy of the dual 370 Epox board that has AGP and ISA on the way. Spent a bit more than I like to on those old boards but it has the slots I wanted and i will end up selling my dual tually board that has isa but not ago.

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Reply 48113 of 52819, by Narokath

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This arrived today, which is an FX 5900 ZT.

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I've been wanting a 5900 series card of some sort for ages, but really didn't want to pay the prices they command these days. This one was advertised as untested for a low enough price, and has proven to be the rarest of rare purchases by actually genuinely being untested and working perfectly. After much banging my head against the wall (and eventually just nuking Windows 98 and starting again), I've gotten it running just fine on the 45.23 driver too. Stock clocks are 325/700, so some way off the beefier models, but some very brief overclocking suggests the core is happy at 400MHz at least. I don't fancy touching the VRAM since it doesn't have heatsinks like the higher-end 5900 series SKUs do. I'm only planning on using it under Windows 98 anyway and it should be more than enough for most things as is.

There also seems to be some confusion online as to whether it's NV35 or NV38. For what it's worth, the newer Nvidia drivers I was fiddling with whilst failing to get 45.23 working all reported NV38. It also shows up in the official driver support list way later than the other 5900 series cards, debuting in the 61.11 beta from what I can tell, which is from May 2004 and so after the 6000 series was already out. Seems to make sense for it to be a leftover dies/5950 Ultra binning rejects type of product.

Reply 48114 of 52819, by W.x.

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Got Asus A7M266. AMD 760 chipset motherboard
https://web.archive.org/web/20010603105823/ht … hp?ArticleID=66

Today I've tested it. Works fine. Price about €7 incl. shipping cost (also AthlonXP 2000+, AMD BOX cooler, and 2xPC2100 DDR sticks were stuck in motherboard)

Reply 48115 of 52819, by H3nrik V!

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TrashPanda wrote on 2023-02-20, 09:00:
A pair of these little rippers 1.1Ghz 100FSB Coppermine (SL5QW ) arrived today, headed for my Asus P2B-DS, got a nice pair of sl […]
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A pair of these little rippers 1.1Ghz 100FSB Coppermine (SL5QW ) arrived today, headed for my Asus P2B-DS, got a nice pair of slotkets for them, should be the fastest 100FSB CPUs this Rev 1.06 board can support.

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Confirmed this slotket can handle FC-PGA CPUs and has the correct voltage jumpers.

Oh, I need to find slotkets for my 2 1.1s soon. Congratulations on the find

Please use the "quote" option if asking questions to what I write - it will really up the chances of me noticing 😀

Reply 48116 of 52819, by Kahenraz

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Narokath wrote on 2023-02-20, 15:49:

This arrived today, which is an FX 5900 ZT.

I have an MSI 5900 SP 128MB. This is an actual thing and has really low clocks. It must have been a very low binned part. I would say that it is a notch below the ZT.

Reply 48117 of 52819, by mrfusion92

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A single lot of random goodies. I won't need other ethernet cards for the foorseable future.

Bought it mainly for the SB Live! soundcards and the NOS white IDE hard drive docking units.
I will probably try to resell most of the other stuff.

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5x 3Com EtherLink
1x Realtek fast ethernet
1x DLink with 4 fast ethernet ports
1x Realtek gigabit ethernet (NOS)
1x S3 Trio64V+ 1MB (with two unpopulated ram chips slots)
2x SB Live! CT4830
1x SB Live! CT4670
2x Adaptec SCSI 2904 (NOS, still sealed)

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1x TP-Link gigabit ethernet

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3x NE2000-compliant ethernet with 10 Mbit RJ-45 connection and ROM slot (should be good for XT-IDE, two are NOS)
1x serial card with two ports

Other
2x white IDE hard drive docking unit for 5.25'' bay (NOS)

Reply 48118 of 52819, by TrashPanda

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Anyone have much experience with the ASUS K7M ?

Looking at grabbing one for my Athlon 850, the board its on cant do much int he way of overclocking but it seems the K7M can tweak some settings to OC Slot A processors, namely its got a huge range of bus speeds and voltage settings. I wonder if the 850 I have could be pushed to 1Ghz via using a 125Mhz bus speed and a small voltage bump.

AMD-K7850MPR52B A is the model of Athlon being used, one of the Pluto versions IIRC.

Reply 48119 of 52819, by ChrisK

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TrashPanda wrote on 2023-02-21, 10:23:

Anyone have much experience with the ASUS K7M ?

Looking at grabbing one for my Athlon 850, the board its on cant do much int he way of overclocking but it seems the K7M can tweak some settings to OC Slot A processors, namely its got a huge range of bus speeds and voltage settings. I wonder if the 850 I have could be pushed to 1Ghz via using a 125Mhz bus speed and a small voltage bump.

AMD-K7850MPR52B A is the model of Athlon being used, one of the Pluto versions IIRC.

Mine gave me some stupid VGA error beep codes, regardless what VGA card was inserted (AGP, PIC, ISA). Without any VGA card it told me RAM was bad.
Either way, it did not want to POST. Had already written off the money for buying it.
What was necessary in the end to bring it back to life was a simple reflash of the BIOS.
Haven't done much more with it other than testing my handful of Athlons for working or not.
But hey, it's an Asus and it supports Thunderbird Slot As. So what can go wrong? 😉