With the two slots, I put in a Sound Blaster 1.5 and the SCSI card. I have plenty of parallel/serial options for getting files on/off, and the internal HDD controller uses a proprietary interface anyway (at least in the non-SX).

jwt27 wrote:

Just received this: http://www.ebay.nl/itm/251789213605

The box is in pretty bad shape but the board itself looks like it's never been used. I'm curious to see how it matches up against the Asus P3B-F. One cool feature of this board is its Realtek clock generator, which can be set anywhere from 66 all the way up to 200MHz (!!!) in steps of 1 MHz!
There's a UDMA-100 controller on-board too, possibly with RAID, but I don't think I'll be using this since I already have a UDMA-133 PCI controller.

UDMA-100 VS UDMA-133 doesnt make much differents.. An older harddisk from that area never would fill up UDMA-133.. If you are lucky the harddisk will do about 50 -60 MB/sec

jwt27 wrote:

There's a UDMA-100 controller on-board too, possibly with RAID, but I don't think I'll be using this since I already have a UDMA-133 PCI controller.

It's only udma 66,bx chipset supports only udma 33,the controller gives u udma 66 support,udma 100 came later to the market , i don't think there is a motherboard with the bx chipset that has udma 100 support via a controller.

Robin4 wrote:

UDMA-100 VS UDMA-133 doesnt make much differents.. An older harddisk from that area never would fill up UDMA-133.. If you are lucky the harddisk will do about 50 -60 MB/sec

SSDs should make a difference though 😉

Nahkri wrote:

jwt27 wrote:

There's a UDMA-100 controller on-board too, possibly with RAID, but I don't think I'll be using this since I already have a UDMA-133 PCI controller.

It's only udma 66,bx chipset supports only udma 33,the controller gives u udma 66 support,udma 100 came later to the market , i don't think there is a motherboard with the bx chipset that has udma 100 support via a controller.

Weird, the sticker on the box says it has a UMDA 100 controller. Yet the manual says it's only 66.

The onboard controller chip is a Highpoint HPT370, and google confirms this supports UDMA100 and hardware RAID 😀

Robin4 wrote:

UDMA-100 VS UDMA-133 doesnt make much differents.. An older harddisk from that area never would fill up UDMA-133.. If you are lucky the harddisk will do about 50 -60 MB/sec

Later hard drives like the Maxtor Diamondmax Plus 8 show appreciable speed bumps when they're attached to ATA133. When attached to a Promise Ultra100 TX2 and Ultra133 TX2 cards, the Plus 8 gets a 10% improvement between ATA100 and ATA133.

That said, these drives came out in 2002 or so.

jwt27 wrote:

The onboard controller chip is a Highpoint HPT370, and google confirms this supports UDMA100 and hardware RAID 😀

http://www.extremeoverclocking.com/reviews/mo … E6-II_v2_1.html

You're right according to this review hpt370 gives u udma 100 and raid,so there are bx motherboards with raid 100,nice find.

Bought this Flightstick for 1$ yesterday. Works great! I tested it in Descent and it's a pretty cool fully analog joystick.

It is built the same way as my IBM PCjr's joystick internally but the springs are much lighter which results in nice smooth movement. It uses potentiometers for both the X and Y axis and it might use one for the throttle too but I don't remember to be honest.

Anyhow here it is. It's built by CH and made in the USA.

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Bought this Flightstick for 1$ yesterday. Works great! I tested it in Descent and it's a pretty cool fully analog joystick.

It is built the same way as my IBM PCjr's joystick internally but the springs are much lighter which results in nice smooth movement. It uses potentiometers for both the X and Y axis and it might use one for the throttle too but I don't remember to be honest.

Anyhow here it is. It's built by CH and made in the USA.

AWESOME purchase. That's the joystick that got my through F-19, Falcon 3.0, X-Wing, Red Baron, etc! I have two of them, and IMO they're long-lasting joysticks. I haven't had one problem with them.

dogchainx wrote:

AWESOME purchase. That's the joystick that got my through F-19, Falcon 3.0, X-Wing, Red Baron, etc! I have two of them, and IMO they're long-lasting joysticks. I haven't had one problem with them.

Same here...X Wing and Falcon 3.0 mostly. I had a Sidewinder by the time I played Red Baron, years after it came out.

But yes...Awesome purchase indeed King_Corduroy...one of my favorite joysticks of all time.

Thanks! Yeah I really like it so far, I just used it today again after I got the Packard Bell 812CD all setup and working again.

It's funny you mention Red Baron specifically because I actually got out my copy of that today and played it for the first time and I loved it. It's such a cool game. 😁

King_Corduroy wrote:

It's funny you mention Red Baron specifically because I actually got out my copy of that today and played it for the first time and I loved it. It's such a cool game. 😁

Oh .. does yours come in a unique case?

Unique? Uh no... it's complete in the original box though and it's the A10 / Red Baron version on CD-ROM.

If you mean that I said "My copy" I only meant to say that in a way as to express that I too own a copy and it's pretty cool.

King_Corduroy wrote:

Unique? Uh no... it's complete in the original box though and it's the A10 / Red Baron version on CD-ROM.

If you mean that I said "My copy" I only meant to say that in a way as to express that I too own a copy and it's pretty cool.

Mine came in a unique cardboard CD case. I can't post pictures because I don't know where it went. 😵

I just bought some SDRAM 128MB DIMMs (all of them PC133) and a VGA cooler.

There are two sticks missing from the photo, as I only remembered to take it after I upgraded my MMX to 256MB (from 32MB)... Could go for 384 but it seemed kindda pointless for that system. Also, the "odd" stick (above the rest, separated) just wouldn't work, tried reseating it multiple times, cleaning the contacts and everything I could think of. It seems pretty heavily abused (the memory chips are full of scratch marks), but the PCB looks okay. No biggie, I bought six (and it was absurdly cheap), but the seller sent 8, so I still got more than I thought I would. Also, the majority of them have 75 written on them and that makes me think they are 150MHz models, so I'm happy =)

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I just bought some SDRAM 128MB DIMMs (all of them PC133) and a VGA cooler.

There are two sticks missing from the photo, as I only remembered to take it after I upgraded my MMX to 256MB (from 32MB)... Could go for 384 but it seemed kindda pointless for that system. Also, the "odd" stick (above the rest, separated) just wouldn't work, tried reseating it multiple times, cleaning the contacts and everything I could think of. It seems pretty heavily abused (the memory chips are full of scratch marks), but the PCB looks okay. No biggie, I bought six (and it was absurdly cheap), but the seller sent 8, so I still got more than I thought I would. Also, the majority of them have 75 written on them and that makes me think they are 150MHz models, so I'm happy =)

Given that intel chisets have cacheable limit of 64 MB, 256MB just as pointless as 384MB.

How much does 430NX cache?

Stojke wrote:

How much does 430NX cache?

Max 512kbit on the motherboards. Can't find any information on cacheable limit, either it cached no RAM or the limit was 512MB (max. which the chipset could handle)

RacoonRider wrote:

Given that intel chisets have cacheable limit of 64 MB, 256MB just as pointless as 384MB.

My Compaq has a VIA chipset, and I don't think it has this limit (even the brochire itself claims 384 to be supported w/o any comments on it not being cacheable). I certainly didn't notice any slowdown.

EDIT: The service manual claims that memory above the first 256MB is non-cacheable. It doesn't say if I need to increase the cache to 512KB or if the onboard 256KB cache is enough. It has a VIA VP2/AMD640 chipset. It seems to be performing well enough, but are there any tests that I could run that would indicate if the memory is being cached or not?

Hmm. Based on what AnandTech had to say about the VP2, it should support up to 512 MB of RAM, 2MB cache, and all of the RAM should be cachable. I have no idea if you need a specific amount of cache to cache that much RAM, or what limitations your specific board may have, but...

Lukeno94 wrote:

Hmm. Based on what AnandTech had to say about the VP2, it should support up to 512 MB of RAM, 2MB cache, and all of the RAM should be cachable. I have no idea if you need a specific amount of cache to cache that much RAM, or what limitations your specific board may have, but...

I'll try running some benchmarks next week, with and whithout the MaxPhysPage setting to limit the amount of memory Windows can see.

In any case... THEY ARRIVED!!!! I'm now part of the Voodoo club!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! God, the package took its sweet time to arrive here from South Korea... and, to my surprise, I had to pay an ungodly amout of taxes to get them from the post office, but I REALLY wanted them =)

Now I need to make a cable to connect my twins in SLI mode... Though untill I get my P3 retro-rig that might not be very useful, since my MMX probably can't push a single one to its limits anyway.