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Bought these (retro) hardware today

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Reply 6980 of 52951, by kithylin

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Slaventus86 wrote:
My dreams come true! I've got THE BEAST - Evans & Sutherland SimFUSION 6000q with FOUR Radeons 9700 Pro on it and 1GB RAM total! […]
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My dreams come true! I've got THE BEAST - Evans & Sutherland SimFUSION 6000q with FOUR Radeons 9700 Pro on it and 1GB RAM total!
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I've also got original driver disc, I can make iso-image if needed.

If anyone is curious what these originally came in, this is the server machines those cards shipped in: http://www.govdeals.com/index.cfm?fa=Main.Ite … 555&acctid=3650

Reply 6981 of 52951, by QBiN

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Came to me today Intergraph TD-30, in excellent condition. I bought it for $ 30 here in Poland. Clean, working with dual silent […]
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Came to me today Intergraph TD-30, in excellent condition. I bought it for $ 30 here in Poland.
Clean, working with dual silent fans.

Original keyboard and mouse, only speakers do not work (i think amplifier is damaged)

(2nd cpu with green heatsink from old zenith z station)Dual P133, 4x16MB Simm Ecc, CMD Ultra ATA PCI,

Integrated Onboard: infamous 430NX, Matrox Millenium, Adaptec 7850 SCSI, PCMCIA, AMD Network (Eth with TokenRing), SB Vibra 16.

Very cool. What OS are you thinking of putting on there? My first thoughts would be Linux or NT4. Oh, and what's so infamous about the 430NX? I know about that chipset, but I don't think I know any lore surrounding it.

Reply 6982 of 52951, by Stiletto

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Slaventus86 wrote:
My dreams come true! I've got THE BEAST - Evans & Sutherland SimFUSION 6000q with FOUR Radeons 9700 Pro on it and 1GB RAM total! […]
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My dreams come true! I've got THE BEAST - Evans & Sutherland SimFUSION 6000q with FOUR Radeons 9700 Pro on it and 1GB RAM total!
IMG_20150312_190040-300x169.jpg

I've also got original driver disc, I can make iso-image if needed.

Amazing, and yes please - send it to VogonsDrivers unless there's full versions of commercial software on it 😀

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Reply 6983 of 52951, by Callahan

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rick6 wrote:
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...Is that also an embedded microphone that i see on the keyboard?

Yes, and works!

QBiN wrote:
Callahan wrote:
Came to me today Intergraph TD-30, in excellent condition. I bought it for $ 30 here in Poland. Clean, working with dual silent […]
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Came to me today Intergraph TD-30, in excellent condition. I bought it for $ 30 here in Poland.
Clean, working with dual silent fans.

Original keyboard and mouse, only speakers do not work (i think amplifier is damaged)

(2nd cpu with green heatsink from old zenith z station)Dual P133, 4x16MB Simm Ecc, CMD Ultra ATA PCI,

Integrated Onboard: infamous 430NX, Matrox Millenium, Adaptec 7850 SCSI, PCMCIA, AMD Network (Eth with TokenRing), SB Vibra 16.

Very cool. What OS are you thinking of putting on there? My first thoughts would be Linux or NT4. Oh, and what's so infamous about the 430NX? I know about that chipset, but I don't think I know any lore surrounding it.

Mic is working!

Infamous. I manage to found only one datasheet with 3 pages of 82430nx chipset. It wasn't really well-publicized like VX or 430FX
Most i know now is from intergraph original datasheet.
but I found one sentence is particularly comforting: • DRAM controller supporting 8 MB to 256 MB of cacheable DRAM •

Now computer tested under windows 98se.
I can think of only two operating systems: both NT; 3.51 & 4

Cpq: ap550(2x1G/256k), sp750(2x900/2MB), 5100(2xpII300)
TD-30 2xP166 NT 3.51
HP Vectra XU 6/200 2x PIIOD 512MB FPM Banshee
Super S2DG2@550/2MB SCSI 15k V5 5500
P4T533-C P4 3,06 Ti4600
Dell T700r @P3-700 V3 3500
PR440FX-2x PIIOD Voodoo 4500 PCI r320 CT1920

Reply 6984 of 52951, by QBiN

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Callahan wrote:

Infamous. I manage to found only one datasheet with 3 pages of 82430nx chipset. It wasn't really well-publicized like VX or 430FX
Most i know now is from intergraph original datasheet.
but I found one sentence is particularly comforting: • DRAM controller supporting 8 MB to 256 MB of cacheable DRAM

Here's some very high-level information from Wikipedia's page on Intel Pentium chipsets including the 430NX:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Intel_ch … entium_chipsets

Reply 6985 of 52951, by Callahan

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There's something more in intergraph users manual:
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Cpq: ap550(2x1G/256k), sp750(2x900/2MB), 5100(2xpII300)
TD-30 2xP166 NT 3.51
HP Vectra XU 6/200 2x PIIOD 512MB FPM Banshee
Super S2DG2@550/2MB SCSI 15k V5 5500
P4T533-C P4 3,06 Ti4600
Dell T700r @P3-700 V3 3500
PR440FX-2x PIIOD Voodoo 4500 PCI r320 CT1920

Reply 6986 of 52951, by Godlike

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10Mbps network card with 430tx will be enough for Quake1 online? any one know minimum quake online gaming requirements?

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ASUS P2B-F, PII 450Mhz, 128MB-SDR, 3Dfx Diamond Monster 3D II SLI, Matrox Millennium II AGP, Diamond Monster Sound MX300

Reply 6987 of 52951, by obobskivich

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alexanrs wrote:

I... never knew this card could even exist oO
It is like better than Crossfire before Crossfire... on AGP!

It's not CrossFire - it's based on ATI Multi-Render ("AMR") and is designed for large image generators. E&S and SGI both implemented AMR in various systems with various GPUs - the biggest being the E&S RenderBeast (yes that's really its name). If I remember correctly they do not support Direct3D and do not combine the GPUs for improved rendering speed (like CrossFire), but instead "stack" the GPUs for multi-head output, improved filtering, object-based rendering, etc that an IG would need for a sim environment. If you can get Direct3D running on it, or otherwise use it for games, that would be very interesting to see. 😀

Reply 6988 of 52951, by kithylin

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Godlike wrote:

10Mbps network card with 430tx will be enough for Quake1 online? any one know minimum quake online gaming requirements?

Well.. considering we played Quake 1 online with dialup modems back in the day that averaged between 2-4 KB/sec, and a 10Base-T card can do 300-350 KB/s.. (Possibly double if you can program a managed switch to full duplex 10 mode for 1 port) I really don't think you're going to have much issue there.

Reply 6989 of 52951, by Godlike

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Thanks for info, I will do testing soon, that's should work

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Reply 6990 of 52951, by sliderider

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Lukeno94 wrote:
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There's a reason it has no AGP; the onboard VGA uses it. My PIII 450 MHz 440BX HP Vectra system is from around 1999 and has an identical sort of setup (built-in graphics uses the AGP interface, only PCI and ISA available on a riser card due to the form factor).

Yes. onbord SiS 8Mb, that's could be useful for office, but to play games need to be one of pci populated with proper graphics card I presume. I have in it similar to yours CPU AMD K6-2 400Mhz

I don't think the SiS chips were that bad; not world beaters, but reasonably competent. You could just stick a Voodoo 2/3 PCI in there, that would sort out your worries. Any PCI GeForce card would probably be more than powerful enough for a K6-2 as well.

I'm still looking for a Xabre 600 that the seller doesn't want the moon for. I have a pair of 200's (32mb and 64mb) and there's been a 400 on ebay for a while for $35 that I think is too much for that card since I can get a GeForce 3Ti for less, but haven't seen a 600 for a while now.

Reply 6991 of 52951, by SquallStrife

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Made a pretty huge score today.

FIVE PowerMac G5 systems. All watercooled. Ranging from 2.0GHz through 2.7GHz, varying amounts of RAM, no HDDs, some with little Radeon cards, and some with huge Quadro cards.

$5 a pop.

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Reply 6993 of 52951, by nforce4max

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SquallStrife wrote:

Made a pretty huge score today.

FIVE PowerMac G5 systems. All watercooled. Ranging from 2.0GHz through 2.7GHz, varying amounts of RAM, no HDDs, some with little Radeon cards, and some with huge Quadro cards.

$5 a pop.

Just be sure to check for leaks as the coolant doesn't do kindly to anything it touches epically the power supply. The seals are infamous for drying out and cracking. Some people resort to rebuilding the coolers just to avoid leaks taking place but once fixed you got a dream machine especially if it is the Quad.

On a far away planet reading your posts in the year 10,191.

Reply 6994 of 52951, by SquallStrife

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obobskivich wrote:

Very cool! Not to be a downer, but iirc some of the G5 watercooled systems had leak issues, just something to keep an eye on.

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Just be sure to check for leaks as the coolant doesn't do kindly to anything it touches epically the power supply. The seals are infamous for drying out and cracking. Some people resort to rebuilding the coolers just to avoid leaks taking place but once fixed you got a dream machine especially if it is the Quad.

Yep, I had heard of that issue, and did give them a quick visual inspection before I put any money down.

I'll be spending tonight testing them out, deciding what to keep and what to resell.

I don't think any of them are quads, the best one is a dual 2.7GHz.

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Reply 6995 of 52951, by SquallStrife

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On first inspection, no sign of water egress. Shitloads of dust though:

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This is the Quadro card that both the 2.7GHz units have:

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Reply 6996 of 52951, by sliderider

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obobskivich wrote:

Very cool! Not to be a downer, but iirc some of the G5 watercooled systems had leak issues, just something to keep an eye on.

There's more than $5 worth of aluminum in a Powermac G5 case.

Reply 6998 of 52951, by carlostex

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SquallStrife wrote:
On first inspection, no sign of water egress. Shitloads of dust though: http://i.imgur.com/mysYmjih.jpg […]
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On first inspection, no sign of water egress. Shitloads of dust though:
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I worked for DELPHI for some 6 years before i moved to England, everything related to the automobile business, i never knew they made that kind of stuff. I guess it comes from a North American prodoction facility.

Reply 6999 of 52951, by obobskivich

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SquallStrife wrote:

And yes, that's an AGP Pro GF 6800 Ultra.

It's actually not AGP Pro, at least inasmuch as I wouldn't expect it to work in a PC with an AGP Pro slot. It's an Apple-unique card that uses the AGP Pro 110 connector. This is what it looks like out of the machine:
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The extra connector (towards the left) is for ADC, and if I remember right some of the pins on the AGP slot aren't directly compatible with PC hardware (basically, I wouldn't try plugging that card into your AGP Pro-equipped Windows machine without doing some homework first). It probably also has firmware differences to the PC variant. If memory serves the Apple 6800U also sports a DL-DVI output, which the "normal" 6800 lacks. The DL connection may be "within" the ADC though, so that might require an adapter to access with conventional monitors.

Still, a very nice card in its own right - especially if you have the Apple machine to go with it. 😀