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Reply 7401 of 52859, by obobskivich

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sliderider wrote:

The sad thing is that the single core Sempron LE-1300 benches higher than a Athlon64-FX.

According to what? Even Passmark, which is not a great source, shows the FX (at least 53, 55, and 57) as faster. 😊

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Nice score on the 5500!

Can say that again! What's the rest of the system there? 😀

Reply 7402 of 52859, by sliderider

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obobskivich wrote:
According to what? Even Passmark, which is not a great source, shows the FX (at least 53, 55, and 57) as faster. :blush: […]
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The sad thing is that the single core Sempron LE-1300 benches higher than a Athlon64-FX.

According to what? Even Passmark, which is not a great source, shows the FX (at least 53, 55, and 57) as faster. 😊

Artex wrote:

Nice score on the 5500!

Can say that again! What's the rest of the system there? 😀

http://www.cpu-world.com/Compare/988/AMD_Athl … empron_150.html

https://www.cpubenchmark.net/pt7_cpu_list.php

AMD Sempron 150 989
AMD Athlon 64 FX-57 740

And those are Passmark scores.

Reply 7403 of 52859, by Skyscraper

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The Sempron 150 will have a hard time cooperating with my fast DDR memory in my socket 939 DFI NF4 motherboard 😜.

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Reply 7404 of 52859, by obobskivich

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sliderider wrote:
http://www.cpu-world.com/Compare/988/AMD_Athl … empron_150.html […]
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http://www.cpu-world.com/Compare/988/AMD_Athl … empron_150.html

https://www.cpubenchmark.net/pt7_cpu_list.php

AMD Sempron 150 989
AMD Athlon 64 FX-57 740

And those are Passmark scores.

You said Sempron LE-1300 originally, not Sempron 150. So now you've moved the goal posts. Sempron 150 is also an AM2+/AM3 CPU, not a 939 CPU, and is significantly newer. The CPU World "comparison" seems to just be taking clockspeed into account (they don't have any benchmarks listed below, and even state "based on our estimates"), and since the 150 is slightly higher clocked, it "wins." Passmark does show the 150 as being somewhat faster (whether this plays out in games, or other real-world applications is hard to say though). It could certainly be an interesting setup for a single-core gaming box; even if it only "matches" the FX processors, it likely costs less and can use newer motherboards.

Your original statement, of a Sempron LE-1300 benching higher than Athlon64 FX is false, At least for the 53, 55, and 57, based on Passmark:
https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=AMD+Sempron+LE-1300
https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=AMD+Athlon+64+FX-53
https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=AMD+Athlon+64+FX-55
https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=AMD+Athlon+64+FX-57

And even that comparison is irrelevant, as the LE-1300 is an AM2 chip, not a 939 chip. 😊

Reply 7405 of 52859, by sliderider

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obobskivich wrote:
You said Sempron LE-1300 originally, not Sempron 150. So now you've moved the goal posts. Sempron 150 is also an AM2+/AM3 CPU, n […]
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http://www.cpu-world.com/Compare/988/AMD_Athl … empron_150.html […]
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http://www.cpu-world.com/Compare/988/AMD_Athl … empron_150.html

https://www.cpubenchmark.net/pt7_cpu_list.php

AMD Sempron 150 989
AMD Athlon 64 FX-57 740

And those are Passmark scores.

You said Sempron LE-1300 originally, not Sempron 150. So now you've moved the goal posts. Sempron 150 is also an AM2+/AM3 CPU, not a 939 CPU, and is significantly newer. The CPU World "comparison" seems to just be taking clockspeed into account (they don't have any benchmarks listed below, and even state "based on our estimates"), and since the 150 is slightly higher clocked, it "wins." Passmark does show the 150 as being somewhat faster (whether this plays out in games, or other real-world applications is hard to say though). It could certainly be an interesting setup for a single-core gaming box; even if it only "matches" the FX processors, it likely costs less and can use newer motherboards.

Your original statement, of a Sempron LE-1300 benching higher than Athlon64 FX is false, At least for the 53, 55, and 57, based on Passmark:
https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=AMD+Sempron+LE-1300
https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=AMD+Athlon+64+FX-53
https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=AMD+Athlon+64+FX-55
https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=AMD+Athlon+64+FX-57

And even that comparison is irrelevant, as the LE-1300 is an AM2 chip, not a 939 chip. 😊

When I googled for Sempron 150, I get the part number for the LE-1300. I originally had Sempron 150 in my original post but changed it after doing a search for the part number. I thought they were the same chip. Anyway, I meant Sempron 150.

Reply 7406 of 52859, by obobskivich

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sliderider wrote:

When I googled for Sempron 150, I get the part number for the LE-1300. I originally had Sempron 150 in my original post but changed it after doing a search for the part number. I thought they were the same chip. Anyway, I meant Sempron 150.

Weird on getting the same P/N. Very interesting find on the 150 though - might be a cheaper alternative for folks looking for FX-level single-core performance. 😀

Reply 7407 of 52859, by HighTreason

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Always happens. I was intrigued recently at one of Intel's low-end Celeon processors which was recently introduced, because it performed almost identically to the Pentium D 950... Substantially cheaper too as well as putting me into hysterics because it only uses around 6 Watts which I measured my board to be exceeding on the 5VSB line alone when not even powered on. Probably uses more when not even plugged in to be honest, that was hardly some of the most efficient hardware ever produced. Makes me feel good to know I'm ruining the future for everyone else's children.
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Reply 7408 of 52859, by kithylin

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Mut wrote:

I never thought could find a v5 5500 here in Brazil

Just $35 and working great 😀

Are they really that uncommon there? I was considering selling mine worldwide when I list it.. but not sure yet.

Reply 7409 of 52859, by alexanrs

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Mut wrote:

I never thought could find a v5 5500 here in Brazil

Just $35 and working great 😀

Where did you get that?! Locally I suppose, because I was never able to find that online here oO

Reply 7410 of 52859, by Living

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3rd world problems

Its common not to see many high end parts. For example: I been working here in Argentina for 16years repairing computers and in all this time i have seen only 3 socket 423 systems (2 Intel 850gb + pentium 4 1.3 & 1.4 and pcchips with 1.6) plus only ONE athlon slot A (550Mhz). NEVER seen a pentium pro neither a pentium 4 EE.

Ppl tends to buy super cheap computers and many of them are pushed to The limit so they can last rougly 10 years. Theres still many 478 and 754 systems in service and many more athlon xp and pentium 3 for 1 task-computer

Reply 7411 of 52859, by Mut

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alexanrs wrote:

Where did you get that?! Locally I suppose, because I was never able to find that online here oO

Got it at Mercado Livre 1 week ago.

kithylin wrote:

Are they really that uncommon there? I was considering selling mine worldwide when I list it.. but not sure yet

Yes its extremely rare here, voodoo 2 is near impossible to find too.

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3rd world problems

Its common not to see many high end parts. For example: I been working here in Argentina for 16years repairing computers and in all this time i have seen only 3 socket 423 systems (2 Intel 850gb + pentium 4 1.3 & 1.4 and pcchips with 1.6) plus only ONE athlon slot A (550Mhz). NEVER seen a pentium pro neither a pentium 4 EE.

Ppl tends to buy super cheap computers and many of them are pushed to The limit so they can last rougly 10 years. Theres still many 478 and 754 systems in service and many more athlon xp and pentium 3 for 1 task-computer

Very similar situation here.

Reply 7412 of 52859, by Lukeno94

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I don't think I've ever personally seen a Socket 423 system in the UK, but I can't profess to looking very hard for one either. I'm sure I'd find them if I looked for them on eBay. Socket 478 though, those are common and cheap as chips; in fact, they're probably the cheapest systems you can get over here, as prices of PIII desktops slowly creep up/become harder to find for systems that will actually be posted (ie, things you don't have to collect).

Reply 7414 of 52859, by feipoa

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nemail wrote:

Beautiful Tyan Sockel 7 Mainboard and the third CT6670 Voodoo 2 in my collection, finally I have two cards with 12MB memory, now I'll only have to get an SLI cable somewhere...

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Is that the Tyan Tyan S1598C2? Is yours the 1 MB or 2 MB version? I have the 2 MB cache version of this board running with 512 MB cache, a Cyrix MII 466, and a Voodoo3. It runs well.

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Reply 7415 of 52859, by PhilsComputerLab

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Lukeno94 wrote:

I don't think I've ever personally seen a Socket 423 system in the UK, but I can't profess to looking very hard for one either. I'm sure I'd find them if I looked for them on eBay. Socket 478 though, those are common and cheap as chips; in fact, they're probably the cheapest systems you can get over here, as prices of PIII desktops slowly creep up/become harder to find for systems that will actually be posted (ie, things you don't have to collect).

Pentium 4 478 are quite easy to work with. Reliability and stability is good, they are Windows 98 SE compatible and support old and new (E.g. SATA and IDE). And as you said, they are cheap and plentiful.

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Reply 7416 of 52859, by MrEWhite

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nemail wrote:

Beautiful Tyan Sockel 7 Mainboard and the third CT6670 Voodoo 2 in my collection, finally I have two cards with 12MB memory, now I'll only have to get an SLI cable somewhere...

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I just got a SLI cable off EBAY for 7 bucks.

Reply 7417 of 52859, by ODwilly

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0belisk wrote:

I have a Hercules 3D Prophet III with the original packaging, is that worth anything?

No idea, but I have the same card in the 128mb ti-500 flavor and love it.

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Reply 7418 of 52859, by rick6

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ODwilly wrote:
0belisk wrote:

I have a Hercules 3D Prophet III with the original packaging, is that worth anything?

No idea, but I have the same card in the 128mb ti-500 flavor and love it.

Woot?
There were Geforce 3 TI500 with 128mb of vram?

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Reply 7419 of 52859, by kithylin

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rick6 wrote:

Woot?
There were Geforce 3 TI500 with 128mb of vram?

Yes: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Nvidia_g … GeForce3_Series