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Re: Bought these (retro) hardware today

Postby Amigaz » 2010-6-13 @ 20:29

swaaye wrote:I have that HIS 4670. :) It's nice and quiet, until the bearings start to wear after about a year, and then it'll make some noise occasionally.

4670s are exceptionally low power when idle.

I broke both of my GeForce FX cards (well one died of crappy construction) so I need to go shopping for those because I feel empty without one of those worthless cards in my possession!


It puzzles me why they put 128bit memory on the 4670? if they had put 256bit memory on it it could have been the fastest and most energy effecient AGP card...the radeon 3850 is a bit faster but get's quite hot and sucks alot of juice
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Re: Bought these (retro) hardware today

Postby swaaye » 2010-6-13 @ 20:55

I have a 3850 too. It's really not that hot. I have a Accelero S1 on it with no fan. At idle it uses just a bit more than the 4670.

I like to look at these cards like this.
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Speed       100%    95%  100%

Power       100%    60%   40%

Bandwidth   100%    50%   25%

:D

BTW the 5670 is kinda like a 4670 but with GDDR5 it essentially has that 256-bit bus.
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Re: Bought these (retro) hardware today

Postby bushwack » 2010-6-13 @ 22:13

I have a Gigabyte 4550 in my HTPC, fanless and audio over HDMI is great. Cheap too.
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Re: Bought these (retro) hardware today

Postby Kreshna Aryaguna Nurzaman » 2010-6-14 @ 03:03

Sorry for the late reply, got quite busy weekend....

Amigaz wrote:@Kreshna

You bought it to have another backup card or you plan putting your V5500 in a frame for pure display? :D

Backup card. This one comes without box, and I already have a V5500 with a pretty good box for display.

Besides, I always need spare cards for practice anyway (heatsink removal, that is). :happyhappy:
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Re: Bought these (retro) hardware today

Postby Tetrium » 2010-6-14 @ 20:14

exxe wrote:
F2bnp wrote:There was also a Voodoo 5 5000 on sale the other day.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/3DFX-Voodoo-5-500 ... 45f315eb0a

Damn that's a lot of money...


to many for me....
5500 i also have some backup cards


get this slotadapter last week
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ooo I'm actually still looking for one of those. One of those with a PPro overdrive in an LX board for ultimate 1337ness!!!11 :P
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Re: Bought these (retro) hardware today

Postby exxe » 2010-6-15 @ 15:26

if you can buy two PPro overdrive cheap please let me know
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Re: Bought these (retro) hardware today

Postby bushwack » 2010-7-16 @ 00:59

Picked up a NEC XR385 (DB60XG clone) MIDI board for $17 shipped.
Haven't tried it out yet, I have a SB32 I might slap it on. Think the SB32 + XR385 would be a better setup then my SB64 Gold?

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Re: Bought these (retro) hardware today

Postby Kreshna Aryaguna Nurzaman » 2010-7-16 @ 04:57

bushwack wrote:Picked up a NEC XR385 (DB60XG clone) MIDI board for $17 shipped.
Haven't tried it out yet, I have a SB32 I might slap it on. Think the SB32 + XR385 would be a better setup then my SB64 Gold?

Depends. AWE64 Gold has less hissing noise than AWE32, and the analog sound quality is somewhat better due to RCA output (compared to mini-stereo output of a typical sound card).

But when it goes to MIDI, a DB60XG clone beats AWE hands down.

Where did you buy the Fallout action figure, by the way? :)
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Re: Bought these (retro) hardware today

Postby BigBodZod » 2010-7-16 @ 06:24

Kreshna Aryaguna Nurzaman wrote:Where did you buy the Fallout action figure, by the way? :)


Yeah, Pipboy 3000 FTW :D
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Re: Bought these (retro) hardware today

Postby Malik » 2010-7-16 @ 12:34

bushwack wrote:Think the SB32 + XR385 would be a better setup then my SB64 Gold?


Yes, better MIDI quality.

And yes, as Nurzaman said, the AWE64Gold has much better sound output compared to a AWE32/SB32 - a lot less hiss; negligible/unappreciated in certain speaker setup.

I ended up using AWE32 in my "main" classic machine - expandability - SIMMS and MIDI Daughterboard. I bought a high quality audio cable with good insulation just for the AWE32. The difference in muffling the hiss is very noticable.
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Re: Bought these (retro) hardware today

Postby Jan3Sobieski » 2010-7-16 @ 13:46

Where did you buy the Fallout action figure, by the way?


It came with a Collector's Edition of Fallout 3. I had one too, but one of my coworkers thought it would be funny to hold it by the base and wiggle it around. Needless to say, it broke.
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Re: Bought these (retro) hardware today

Postby Kreshna Aryaguna Nurzaman » 2010-7-16 @ 14:26

Malik wrote:
bushwack wrote:Think the SB32 + XR385 would be a better setup then my SB64 Gold?


Yes, better MIDI quality.

And yes, as Nurzaman said, the AWE64Gold has much better sound output compared to a AWE32/SB32 - a lot less hiss; negligible/unappreciated in certain speaker setup.

Yup. I'm still not sure if the less noise is due to the gold connectors, or simply because it makes it possible to use RCA cables, which is beefier and (usually) more insulated than mini stereo cables.


Malik wrote:I ended up using AWE32 in my "main" classic machine - expandability - SIMMS and MIDI Daughterboard.

Yes. separate MIDI card (like SW60XG or SCC-1) consumes more ISA slot, and propetiary RAM expansion for AWE64 series is quite hard to find. Not to mention the size is quite limited, while IIRC generic EDO RAM for AWE32 series enables us to expand the memory to 32 megabytes!

On the other hand, MIDI daughterboard doesn't play well with CH throttle. That's why I had to stick to SW60XG and AWE64 Gold. :s-face:


Malik wrote:I bought a high quality audio cable with good insulation just for the AWE32. The difference in muffling the hiss is very noticable.

While we're at it....

It seems many sound cards are quite noisy and hissy due to poor circuitry, and/or the inherent noises in a PC box. I wonder: how much can a tube filter help? It primarily works as noise filter, although stereo snobs claim that it also makes digital music as warm as vinyl (I am an stereo snob, but not that snob :wink: ) due to the tubes. Wonder how FM music or MT-32 music would sound with tube amplifier.
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Re: Bought these (retro) hardware today

Postby Kreshna Aryaguna Nurzaman » 2010-7-16 @ 14:27

Jan3Sobieski wrote:
Where did you buy the Fallout action figure, by the way?


It came with a Collector's Edition of Fallout 3. I had one too, but one of my coworkers thought it would be funny to hold it by the base and wiggle it around. Needless to say, it broke.

Time to go postal at your coworker then.... :sad:
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Re: Bought these (retro) hardware today

Postby sliderider » 2010-7-16 @ 14:35

Kreshna Aryaguna Nurzaman wrote:Just wonder; do we need a separate "recent acquisition thread" for hardware? I just feel not right to post hardware purchases on this thread.

Nonetheless, I just won these. Heee-haw! :)

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Gonna play some Mech Warrior? :happyhappy:
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Re: Bought these (retro) hardware today

Postby sliderider » 2010-7-16 @ 14:37

swaaye wrote:I have a 3850 too. It's really not that hot. I have a Accelero S1 on it with no fan. At idle it uses just a bit more than the 4670.

I like to look at these cards like this.
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           2900XT  3870  4670
 
Speed       100%    95%  100%

Power       100%    60%   40%

Bandwidth   100%    50%   25%

:D

BTW the 5670 is kinda like a 4670 but with GDDR5 it essentially has that 256-bit bus.


Where would you put a 4850 1gb on that scale?
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Re: Bought these (retro) hardware today

Postby Kreshna Aryaguna Nurzaman » 2010-7-16 @ 14:45

sliderider wrote:Gonna play some Mech Warrior? :happyhappy:

Actually, it is Longbow 2 and Total Air War, but MechWarrior 2 is indeed great with joystick/throttle/pedal. For the game, however, I replace the F-16 FLCS/TQS with Saitek X36 joystick/throttle. The X36 futuristic shape and "hefty" feels make it better for such giant robot game.

The bad news is: I still haven't figured how to use a separate rudder pedals with the X36. :s-face:
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Re: Bought these (retro) hardware today

Postby bushwack » 2010-7-29 @ 01:54

.Picked up another Rendition card, dunno why. Gave $4 for it, came with original driver CD. No glasses though.

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Re: Bought these (retro) hardware today

Postby Kreshna Aryaguna Nurzaman » 2010-7-29 @ 03:43

Just received a pair of Diamond Monster MX300 I bought on ebay.

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Re: Bought these (retro) hardware today

Postby Tetrium » 2010-7-29 @ 17:28

Theres a voodoo 5 PCI for sale on Ebay right now with 45 minutes left and a bid of about $6. Seller only ships to US and Canada so price may stay low

http://cgi.ebay.com/3Dfx-VOODOO-5-5500- ... 2eaeb41a64
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Re: Bought these (retro) hardware today

Postby Kreshna Aryaguna Nurzaman » 2010-8-24 @ 05:53

A Thrustmaster F-16 FLCS --stick only. I'm always looking for "stick only" F-16 FLCS, because I always try to have at least two joysticks for a single throttle. Joystick worn faster than throttle.

Thus, if you have F-16 FLCS sans throttle, and you won't want those sticks anymore, I'm always happy to buy.

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