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I've spent so long thinking about what hardware I need to play my DOS and Windows 9x games, that I totally forgot about Windows 3.x! 🤣

I'm know I've got a handful of old games that specify Windows 3.1 as the required operating system. (Journeyman Project is quite a well known game for example.)

Does anyone here have Windows 3.x as part of their "retro setup"?
Do Windows 3.x games run OK on Windows 95?

Thanks for any thoughts - Ich danke Ihnen für Ihre Kommentare. (I'm just practicing my German for German ebay!) 😀

Best regards, Robert.

Reply 1 of 16, by tannerstevo

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A while back I purchased a zenith 486 system on ebay like this one:

http://mastodonpc.tripod.com/personal/6937.html

I installed windows 3.1 (and a cdrom drive) and like it a lot.
I say, if you can find a copy for a good price, go for it!

Reply 2 of 16, by valnar

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My upcoming Pentium build will run Windows 3.1. I already have Win98 covered on a PIII build. I should use a 486, but maybe next time. Any DOS retro machine you build should handle Win31.

You can also run Windows 3.1 nicely under DOSBox and Microsoft VirtualPC if its just a matter of a couple Windows 3.1 games.

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Reply 3 of 16, by Malik

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Ah! Windows 3.x!!

I always make sure I have a copy of Windows 3.1 or 3.11 installed in any of my DOS machines. It still has the classic "feel" to it.
I still play Sierra's Adventure games with the Windows executables. Like KQ5, KQ6, Gabriel Knight 1, QFG4, etc.

The classic control panel, midi mapper, etc., and not to mention the colour schemes...with classic win3.x drivers!! Sure brings and maintains good nostalgic memories. Though it was bugged with many bugs, BSOD, Kernel Errors, etc., it's still a piece of retro, vintage classic sit-on-top-of DOS-OS along with your DOS 5,6.2,6.22.

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Reply 7 of 16, by Davros

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hey why not run win 3.1 from a ram drive - imagine the speed

ps: some games need winG (sort of precursor to directx) dont know how easy it is to find

Guardian of the Sacred Five Terabyte's of Gaming Goodness

Reply 8 of 16, by swaaye

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I put WFW 3.11 on a P3-1000 once. If only modern OSs booted like that. 😀

That OS really is a wreck though. It can be brought down in about a bazillion ways and has awful performance for apps that do fancy gfx. Well, unless you run it on some crazy hardware, which isn't all that hard to do these days!

Reply 9 of 16, by 5u3

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WfW 3.11 is running on my 486 - mostly used for quick access to my fileserver. It would also be possible to set up the network connections under plain DOS, but Win 3.11 is also nice to have for some games and apps which would be a pain to use under a more modern OS.

On most 486 machines Windows 9x is rather slow and often causes trouble because of crappy drivers for old hardware (not to mention the problems you can run into with early PnP hardware).

Davros wrote:

hey why not run win 3.1 from a ram drive - imagine the speed

Hehe, I had something like that a long time ago when my fastest computer was a 386sx/25 with 10 MB RAM 😉
All you need to do is move some temporary directories to a RAM drive and a few adjustments to the pagefile settings.

Reply 10 of 16, by retro games 100

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Awesome info from everyone, as usual on Vogons! 😀

Please may I ask an additional question: I'm thinking of running WFW 3.11 on a "pentium 2 celeron" based machine. That's a slot 1 CPU, but not a PII CPU as such, but instead a celeron @ 266mhz. (The slowest CPU I can possibly find for my slot 1 mobo in fact!)

I am guessing this would run WFW 3.11 very fast indeed...but would it be too fast?

Vielen Dank meine retro Freunde! 😀

Reply 11 of 16, by Amigaz

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Running wfw 3.11 on my EISA 486 system.
Using cuteftp to transfer stuff from my Mac, tried to do some webrowsing with IE 5.01 but it was too slow to be usable 😜

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Reply 12 of 16, by Malik

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retro games 100 wrote:

I am guessing this would run WFW 3.11 very fast indeed...but would it be too fast?

I've used WFW and W3.1 in my Pentium III 450MHz Slot 1-based system. Works like charm. I was using DFI P2XBL motherboard. ( I still have the system, but using my P1 system currently.)

You won't feel it's too fast. Instead, it'll be fast and snappy to work with. Just make sure you're using a PCI based (or other) Win3.1x supported video card with the respective drivers for optimum performance.

FYI, there exist a "patched" generic SVGA driver for Win3.1x, whereby, you can use ANY video card to access the 640x480x256-colour mode. It still exist and I have a copy of it too. I will post it in Milliways if time permits today.

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Reply 14 of 16, by valnar

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No question if you want to run Windows 3.1 that you should run a video card with specific Win3.1 drivers. For PCI, I recommend the Matrox G400, S3 Trio64+ or S3 Virge. The Matrox 2D quality is the best.

Reply 15 of 16, by retro games 100

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Matrox cards are very nice! 😁 I really like my g2+, and also my g450 (with dvi), although for some strange reason I have to use a dvi to vga adapter and therefore use a vga cable, otherwise the image is "letterbox squashed" on the screen. Most odd. Otherwise, great cards, really like 'em. 😀