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First post, by general_vagueness

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Would anyone happen to know where I can get disks (with software on them, preferably useful) for the Apple II besides eBay or Amazon? I kind of feel bad having an Apple II and not using it but there isn't much I can do with it without software, at least without spending a few hours coding something in BASIC-- which wouldn't have been a problem a few years ago, but now... no.

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Reply 1 of 9, by akula65

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Check out this site:

ftp://ftp.apple.asimov.net/pub/apple_II/

Back issues of Nibble, disk images, documentation, the whole nine yards. I found the link in John Romero's Dr. Apple ][ forum:

http://rome.ro/smf/index.php/board,8.20.html

Reply 2 of 9, by general_vagueness

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Those seem pretty good, but I wanted disks. In case I wasn't clear, I don't have any way to write the floppies other than the Apple II itself-- I don't even have any other floppy drives any more except for an old external laptop floppy drive that doesn't connect to my new laptop.

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Reply 3 of 9, by ih8registrations

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There's more than a few ways to transfer: serial, via audio jack, flash(more than a few to choose from here, pre made and roll your own), network cards, particular apple floppy drives and systems for transferring, utilities and pc floppies for some floppies, ..:
http://apple2.org.za/gswv/a2zine/Sel/ADTWin.html
http://www.faqs.org/faqs/apple2/faq/part7/
http://vintagemacworld.com/drives.html
http://www.whatisthe2gs.apple2.org.za/cffa-ca … commentStart=10
http://www.retrofloppy.com/products.html
http://www.geocities.com/profdredd/apple2/a2-pc.html
http://adtpro.sourceforge.net/index.html

Reply 4 of 9, by ih8registrations

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This got me on the quest of finding out the memory bandwidth of the IIgs. Various sources tell me the fastest IO transfer is 1 MB. Further reading says the 2.8 MHz CPU clock is down clocked to 1 MHz when accessing peripherals, hence, the 1MB a second, and that when not doing IO, it accesses "fast" memory at full CPU speed, but that there's also memory refresh overhead that drops "fast" memory access to 2.5MHz, so the IIgs memory bandwidth is 2.5MBps. They've also used 1000000 to rep a MB, so 2.384MBps in binary parlance. I was thinking about flash as memory and wondering how the speed lined up. The slowdown for IO access happens in two memory regions that are memory mapped, so if you could work out a solution to make an access outside of that region or have the system not slow down during IO, you could use flash as system memory at full speed, faster if you could turn off or turn down the refresh since it's not needed for flash, or make a flash based memory card to plug into the memory expansion slot. The added benefit of non volatile memory as system memory. Oh, that's like class 2 SDHC or 16x flash; low end speed. Only ROM is accessed at full speed. http://74.6.239.67/search/cache?ei=UTF-8&p=51 … &icp=1&.intl=us

Reply 5 of 9, by valnar

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OP. If you want to spend any money, spend it on a means to create Apple ][ disks from the images uploaded to Asimov.

I have a box full of Apple games for my Apple //e but honestly, half probably don't work any more. Even on eBay, you would be taking your chances. Buy the appropriate transfer cable, some blank 5.25" disks and go for it. Or do I what I do.... just use Applewin.

Reply 6 of 9, by general_vagueness

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Yeah, the problem here is pretty much too big of a separation-- my only usable floppy drives are the ones that connect to the Apple II and this desktop and my laptop don't even have serial ports. However the audio route seems promising, and probably cheaper than the rest. I'll look into it.
BTW it's a later Apple IIe (as in not the orginal Apple IIe).
Thanks.

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Reply 8 of 9, by ih8registrations

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Here's my preference for optimum setup:

remote boot: http://www.vintagemacworld.com/iigs_rb.html
with basilisk II running the file server.

I'm reading trying to figure out if basilisk II can configure appletalk to use the host's printer port. If it does, it should work; a pc running basilisk, running the server software, with the iigs booting off of it, connected by an appletalk cable hooked up through the printer ports.

There's also netatalk for linux( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netatalk ,) that might be used for the server, whether run on hardware or a vm like qemu.

Ah, seems appletalk can also use the serial port which basilisk provides a passthrough for so promising.

Reply 9 of 9, by ih8registrations

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There are a ton of floppy emulator projects which I really like the idea of, from a pc drag n' drop, sdcards, menu selection, all cool ideas.

http://jeanfrancoisdelnero.free.fr/floppy_dri … ator/index.html