I've seen quite a few posts about very fast PIII based machines running Windows 9x, but I just wondered if it was OK/possible/stable to run Windows 98 on a P4 based PC? Of course, 99% of the P4 mobos would not have ISA slots, but what if you didn't need them anyway? What if you just wanted AGP and PCI only? I guess that would be OK....?
Win98 will run fine on any x86 compatible PC with BIOS. There are problems with more than 512 MB RAM (you need to change some settings) and with CPUs over 2.1 GHz (needs some patching).
wrote:Win98 will run fine on any x86 compatible PC with BIOS. There are problems with more than 512 MB RAM (you need to change some settings) and with CPUs over 2.1 GHz (needs some patching).
Oh wow, I never realised about a 2.1 GHz 'limit' - thanks very much for telling me. I was going to use a 2.4, now I might scale that back to a 2.0!
Thanks! 😁
Here is the KB article: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/312108 - it seems you can request a patch.
Odd, I never had that error during the short time I had 98 installed in this rig, just the 1GB ram problem.
As NDIS is affected it is possible the bug only shows if some sort of network is installed.
1+1=10
I've used windows 98 and me on three P4 motherboards. One is a socket 478 and two LGA 775 based boards. All boards were fitted with only 512MB DDR400 RAM . The processors were P4 3 GHz and 2.8 GHz. Worked well without any problems. And I didn't install any patches.
I've also faced the more than 512MB problem in a 1GB setup which is easily circumvented by adding a statement in the win or system.ini file.
What the problem you get with RAM above a certain level? I've got two Win98 computers, one with 1gb the other 768mb, both seem pretty stable though I guess I only use them for a few games and music playing.
wrote:What the problem you get with RAM above a certain level? I've got two Win98 computers, one with 1gb the other 768mb, both seem pretty stable though I guess I only use them for a few games and music playing.
And then there's of course this place 😎 :
http://www.msfn.org/board/index.php?s=0e1eab7 … pic=107001&st=0
While initializing device NDIS: Windows protection error
Does the error crash Win98, or is it just a popup message where you can click 'ok'?
Never thought this thread would be that long, but now, for something different.....
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Re: NDIS problem. When you boot up, you see a white text message on a black screen background informing you of this problem. You can then go no further. You have to switch off your machine. It disallows you from continuing to go to the desktop.
I saw it yesterday in fact. Windows 95 on a P4 2.4 machine. However, I put Win98 on it, and experienced no probs at all. Perhaps it's a case of YMMV?
My Win98se machine is a Soyo socket 478 ISA with 1gb ram and a P4 2.67 ghz processor. I've modified the system.ini file so Win98 only sees 768mb of ram but I've never seen the NDIS problem. It could be because I originally installed Win98 on a slower processor then upgraded. If it's just a problem that happens during installation as the KB article seems to indicate you could probably just change the speed settings of your processor or disable the internal cache in the BIOS, run the install then change them back again.
What's funny though is that I used to use this as my main computer and dual boot XP. But XP started seeing a divide by zero error during initialization I've tried reinstalling from scratch, removing memory, cards, even tried a different CPU but no luck on getting XP to work. I finally gave up and built a newer faster C2D system for my daily use and have a KVM swtich to use the Win98 machine when needed.
Windows 98 can use up to 999MB, though it's a good idea to add the maxphypage and min.max file chache things to the system.ini.
wrote:I've used windows 98 and me on three P4 motherboards. One is a socket 478 and two LGA 775 based boards. All boards were fitted with only 512MB DDR400 RAM . The processors were P4 3 GHz and 2.8 GHz. Worked well without any problems. And I didn't install any patches.
Sorry for resurrecting an old thread, but Malik: do you remember what 775 boards you used with 98? I'm currently looking to buy a 478 board with ISA but I've come across a 775 with a 915 chipset. Googling seems to indicate that it might or might not be possible to run this with 98 so I was interested to see you hadn't had issues with a 775.
Theres a fairly large list of compatible hardware for 98SE here:
Link: http://www.msfn.org/board/topic/107001-compat … ith-windows-9x/
It would seem your mobo will run with 98SE 😉
Wow thanks tetrium, I'll have a browse of that, looks hopeful 😁 .
I think the 2.1 GHz bug was fixed in 98 SE.
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wrote:wrote:I've used windows 98 and me on three P4 motherboards. One is a socket 478 and two LGA 775 based boards. All boards were fitted with only 512MB DDR400 RAM . The processors were P4 3 GHz and 2.8 GHz. Worked well without any problems. And I didn't install any patches.
Sorry for resurrecting an old thread, but Malik: do you remember what 775 boards you used with 98? I'm currently looking to buy a 478 board with ISA but I've come across a 775 with a 915 chipset. Googling seems to indicate that it might or might not be possible to run this with 98 so I was interested to see you hadn't had issues with a 775.
The Asrock 775i65G works with Win98. Have a look:
wrote:wrote:Win98 will run fine on any x86 compatible PC with BIOS. There are problems with more than 512 MB RAM (you need to change some settings) and with CPUs over 2.1 GHz (needs some patching).
Oh wow, I never realised about a 2.1 GHz 'limit' - thanks very much for telling me. I was going to use a 2.4, now I might scale that back to a 2.0!
Thanks! 😁
Like I may have mentioned before, I once dual-booted 98SE and XP on a 2.4GHz Pentium 4 Prescott box, and aside from some small memory management issues (caused by the 1GB of RAM the system had), it ran 98SE just fine. 😀
