do you need it in windows i thought powerdesk was pretty good ?

do you have the latest millenium drivers ?
http://www.matrox.com/graphics/en/support/dri … es/w9x_433c.cfm

I didn't really need it for Windows as much I need it for DOS. The Matrox drivers are up to date.

AFAIR , scitech in windows is working as a generic VGA driver with lots of refresh options and custom resolutions (more options than normal windows generic VGA driver) so it is not recommended to use it on a "modern" Matrox card 😀

Scitech Windows version is more helpful for Windows 3.x rather than for Windows 9x.

Ok, thanks. So I should install the version of Scitech that is just for DOS and uninstall it from Windows? I had a computer back in the DOS days but I never did have Scitech so this is new ground for me. I got the Scitech installs from a link posted here and I noticed there is a version just for DOS.

The AUTOEXEC.BAT file you posted in your other thread shows that the SDD TSR gets loaded before some Matrox VESA utilities:

1C:\SDD\UNIVBE32.EXE -w
2SET MGA=C:\MGA\SETUP\
3c:\mga\setup\vbetsr
4c:\mga\setup\vbesetup

I don't know the Matrox "VBETSR" utility, but chances are high that this causes a conflict with SDD. You'll have to choose which one to load, either SDD or VBETSR.

I agree with the posters above, the SDD Windows programs are not much use with a Matrox card, especially if you're running Win9x. Better get the DOS standalone version instead.

So, when I get back home I will uninstall the current SDD. And then install SDD for DOS only.

Thanks for the advice.

If you do you will need to rem out the matrox drivers

So I need to REM out this then?

SET MGA=C:\MGA\SETUP\
c:\mga\setup\vbetsr
c:\mga\setup\vbesetup

So as far as DOS goes is SDD going to be better that the Matrox drivers?

The question is: better to do what?

Generally you won't need drivers in dos. I had the same Matrox card as you have in one of my first retro computers, and the utility was good to get higher screen refresh rates on my crt display. The Matrox card should allready have VBE 2.0 and if it does not, maybe the utility is a workaround, or you have to patch the vga bios, which is possible with those cards.

But what for - if you don't have a problem with a certain game or dos application there is no need to do this, or using univbe. Univbe could make older ISA or VLB cards a bit faster in certain SVGA modes, as far as I remember, but the Matrox card should be fast enough for all dos games and compatible too.

If you need (and your display is able to run) higher refresh rates, I would use the matrox utility - in the MGA folder should be a readme file, that explains how to configure it.

Ok, sounds like a plan. Will get to it when I get out of work. Thanks.

What kind of display do you use?

By the way - you should find all drivers and utilites for the card still at matrox web site (search for something like "Legacy products", "older drivers"). The bios package also contains the tsr your autoexec.bat is referring to.

I have it hooked to a 17 inch CRT. The Matrox site is where I got the drivers about 12 months ago so I don't think I have a problem there.