Microsoft Sidewinder...it's a damn shame they don't make them anymore. I have the gameport version, probably won't work in Vista or Win7 🙁

Is there a decent new joystick available these days other than that Saitek crap?

I had the suncom analog edge 2 for quite a few years. Of course that stick was a mutated bastard offspring of what it should be compared to modern sticks. Meanwhile, looking for a picture of the thing, I ran into this little gem.
http://www.joeylatimer.com/pdf/Compute!%20Apr … y%20Latimer.pdf

bless google pdf search.

I've had a great deal of great gaming using the original microsoft sidewinder 3d. The total of 4 axis really turned out to be a life saver in many games. Turning them from impossible to control to close to perfect. A favourite of mine: "outcast" by Appeal springs to mind. Where twisting the stick would actually turn the camera while walking around.

Back in the day I always wanted one of those original gravis joysticks. Might atually buy one if I ever run into one.

I guess good flight controls just aren't in demand. I mean, even Microsoft shut down the division and team that produces Flight Sim. I haven't seen too many decent games come out lately. Maybe the genre is dying out?

I have one old but practical Quickshot Joystick, it is an analog gameport joystick with two buttons. Later I chose me a MS Sidewinder Precision Pro, which I am quite happy with. That would be a digital joystick with a gameport interface and an USB adapter.