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First post, by gerwin

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I was messing around with a Turtle Beach Rio card, being a midi daughterboard, 4MB GM. This card has some fancy features such as samplestore, and bi-directional communication over the midi port. I was hoping to try that out, but I can't get any further than just playing midi music with the thing. Even the Rio control panel doesn't seem to make much sence or have much effect on the card. I tried it with a CMI8330 soundcard and also a Montego-II soundcard. Any ideas?

Reply 1 of 12, by gerwin

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Hmm.. I think this might be the cause: As done on the classic waveblaster infterface I have pin no. 8 disconnected on my home-made waveblaster adapter board. But I think the RIO uses this pin for feedback messages.
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Reply 2 of 12, by FGB

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Hi Gerwin,
Today I got a RIO DB (Rev. 2.0 manually upped to Rev. 3.0) on a Turtle Beach TAHITI host card, the bundle is called and was sold as MONTEREY.

What I found out is that the DB requires a host card with MIDI-IN connected on the waveblaster header. The TAHITI has this feature and therefore you can use the sample RAM and the RIO control panel.

Actually the DB has a nice quality. IMO it sounds not as homogenous/ well balanced as Yamaha or Roland modules but you can hear that its samples are in very high quality (4MB uncompressed ROM) and good sounding from what I can tell right now (just tested with two games) and the effects are very rich by default (a little bit on the AWE-side if you ask me). But I think one can reduce these effects, but I yet don't know how.

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Fabian

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Reply 3 of 12, by CHiLL72

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I'd also like to know how to reduce or set the effects when using the Turtle Beach Rio with a different host card card (i.e. not a TB Tahiti). And yes, it does work with the Tahiti/Monterey software in Windows 95 or 98.

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Reply 4 of 12, by gerwin

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I also have the Tahati+RIO=Monterey bundle, but have not worked with it lately.
Regarding the effects, I reduced them with the RIO control panel in Windows, but intercepted the midi signals that the control panel send out, so now I can send the sysex code for 'reduced effects' with some DOS program.

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Reply 5 of 12, by FGB

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Would you mind sharing these sysex values?

It will be a simple task to make a batch calling gsplay sending the sysex to the corresponding MPU-401 interface.

Thanks in advance,
Fabian

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Reply 6 of 12, by gerwin

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No problem,
Attached to this post are my RIO sysex experiments, with MDF.EXE to send them to the card in DOS.

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Reply 7 of 12, by FGB

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Thank you very much, gerwin!
I still don't know how to exactly setup the values for either chorus or reverb but I think I will find out.

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Reply 9 of 12, by gerwin

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Not really,
But the Soundfont that was used for the RIO is still commercially available at http://www.voicecrystal.com

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Reply 10 of 12, by FGB

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The same patch set was also used on the Turtle Beach Tropez+ . Compressed versions of the patch set are used on the Turtle Beach Tropez, the Turtle Beach MAUI and on the Aztech Waverider 32 (1st revision).

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Reply 11 of 12, by Brak

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That is why I am interested. I have both the tropez and tropez+ cards. I used them extensively for recording on my old PC that has ISA ports. So I am wanting to have the same sounds available. I remember a long time ago seeing something online about a hack to use the tropez as a stand-alone device, without needing a PC. Failed trying to find it again. Anyone know anything about that?