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First post, by Mau1wurf1977

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Hey guys I could really need more 3dbench scores for my current "time machine" project.

I recommend using v1.0 as it's more precise with slower machines (at least that's what I found during my benching session).

You can download this utility here: http://www.simtel.net/product/view/id/51823

It just takes a minute or less to run!

Please post what CPU, Ram, Cache and video card you are using!

THANK YOU!

EDIT:

We could use this template:

CPU:
Mainboard:
Amount of RAM:
Amount of L2 Cache:
Video card:
3dbench score:

EDIT: I will consolidate all scores in this first post:

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Tester: retro games 100
CPU: DX2-66
Mainboard: MS-4144, PCB revision 1.4
Amount of RAM: 32mb
Amount of L2 Cache: 256kb
Video card: PCI STB Trio64V+ 2mb
3dbench score: 50

CPU: DX-33
Mainboard: MS-4144, PCB revision 1.4
Amount of RAM: 32mb
Amount of L2 Cache: 256kb
Video card: PCI STB Trio64V+ 2mb
3dbench score: 27.7

CPU: 486SX-25
Mainboard: MS-4144, PCB revision 1.4
Amount of RAM: 32mb
Amount of L2 Cache: 256kb
Video card: PCI STB Trio64V+ 2mb
3dbench score: 20.4

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Tester: Machine_1760
CPU: Intel 486 DX4 100
Mainboard: Siemens Nixdorf PCD-4h
Amount of RAM: 24mb
Amount of L2 Cache: unknown
Video card: Onboard S3
3dbench score: 62.5

CPU: Intel 486 DX2 66
Mainboard: unknown (Digital DECpc LPv 466d2)
Amount of RAM: 16 MB
Amount of L2 Cache: Unknown
Video card: Onboard S3
3dbench score: 43.5

CPU: Intel 486 DX-50
Mainboard: Unknown (no stickers or manufacturer's markings anywhere)
Amount of RAM: 16 mb
Amount of L2 Cache: 256kb
Video card: Trident TVGA9000C (ISA)
3dbench score: 25.6

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Tester: keropi
CPU: Cyrix 486slc2/40mhz (clip-on 386sx/20 upgrade with 1kb L1 cache)
Mainboard: IBM PS1/pro 2123 model
Amount of RAM: 16mb
Amount of L2 Cache: Unknown
Video card: 1MB CL-GD5429 , ISA
3dbench score: 13.3

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Tester: ratfink
CPU: AMD 5x86-75
Mainboard: Abit BN4
Amount of RAM: 32mb
Amount of L2 Cache: Unknown
Video card: S3 Trio 64v+ PCI
3dbench score: 71.4

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Tester: Amigaz
CPU: Cyrix 386->486 upgrade cpu running at 40mhz (1k L1 cache)
Mainboard: Compaq
Amount of RAM: 16mb
Amount of L2 Cache: Unknown
Video card: Ati Mach32 DRAM 2mb ISA
3dbench score: 15,3

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Tester: DBob
CPU: Intel 486 DX4-100
Mainboard: Unknown (Compaq Proline 4100 board)
Amount of RAM: 40 MB
Amount of L2 Cache: 128 kB
Video card: Cirrus Logic GD5434-8 (integrated pci)
3dbench score: 71.4

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Tester: aitotat
3Dbench gave 15.8 fps for below system:
CPU: AMD 386DX-40 MHz
Mainboard: MB-4D50L (OPTi 82C495 SX chipset), 256 kiB cache
Amount of RAM: 4 x 4 MiB 60 ns
Video card: #9GXE (S3 928) ISA
3dbench score: 15.8

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Tester: 386DX40
CPU: AMD 5x86 133MHz (L1 cache in WT mode due to BIOS limitations)
Mainboard: Chaintech 4SPI Sis496/497 ISA PCI
Amount of RAM: 128MB (all cacheable by L2)
Amount of L2 Cache: 512kb
Video card: S3 Virge PCI 4MB
3dbench score: 62.5

Last edited by Mau1wurf1977 on 2010-10-03, 03:56. Edited 12 times in total.

Reply 1 of 54, by ratfink

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CPU: AMD 5x86-75
Mainboard: Abit BN4
Amount of RAM: 32mb
Amount of L2 Cache: <<how do i find this?>>
Video card: S3 Trio 64v+ PCI

3dbench:
[previously, with CPU/PCI buffer disabled:
- under Win 95: 41.6
- restarting in ms-dos mode: 50.0]
new result for DOS mode 71.4

Last edited by ratfink on 2010-10-01, 11:31. Edited 3 times in total.

Reply 2 of 54, by Mau1wurf1977

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Thanks!

L2 Cache usually shows up at the POST screen!

Regarding your score, it seems a bit low...

retro games 100 got 50 points on a DX2-66 and he also used a PCI board and a S3 video card. Yours should easily outperform that machine...

I would expect maybe 70 points?

Testing 3 Intel 486 CPUs

Last edited by Mau1wurf1977 on 2010-09-30, 22:56. Edited 2 times in total.

Reply 3 of 54, by Machine_1760

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PC 1

CPU: Intel 486 DX4 100
Mainboard: unknown (Siemens Nixdorf PCD-4h)
Amount of RAM: 24 MB
Amount of L2 Cache: Unknown
Video card: Onboard S3
3dBench: 62.5

PC 2

CPU: Intel 486 DX2 66
Mainboard: unknown (Digital DECpc LPv 466d2)
Amount of RAM: 16 MB
Amount of L2 Cache: Unknown
Video card: Onboard S3
3dbench: 43.5

I'm not sure of the exact model of graphics, I'll update tomorrow when I have time to open the cases and have a peer inside. I'll also update with scores from my other machines.

How do I determine the amount of L2 cache?

Reply 4 of 54, by Mau1wurf1977

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Machine_1760 wrote:

Thanks!

I'm not sure of the exact model of graphics, I'll update tomorrow when I have time to open the cases and have a peer inside. I'll also update with scores from my other machines.

That's fine! A rough idea if it's ISA, VLB or PCI and the brand is all we need

How do I determine the amount of L2 cache?

I believe 486 boards usually had 256k of L2 cache. This should show up at the post screen, or you can use System Speed Test v4.78 (Which I also used for this benchmark table):

http://forum.benchmarkreviews.com/showthread.php?t=12287

Reply 5 of 54, by awergh

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CPU: Intel 486 DX2 66
Mainboard: unkown
Amount of RAM: 16MB
Amount of L2 Cache: 256KB
Video card: Realtek unknown ISA
3dbench score: 5.9

I don't see anything to identify the video card but its obviously not as good as some of the cards other people have installed.

Reply 6 of 54, by Mau1wurf1977

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5.9? That is very very low. That's 386SX performance. Something isn't right there...

You can run this tool and see if something seems odd: http://forum.benchmarkreviews.com/showthread.php?t=12287

At the end you can write a PCX file (image file) and post it here and we can take a look and maybe spot something!

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Reply 8 of 54, by Mau1wurf1977

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Yea that cpu score is also quite low. It should be around 25 points.

Something isn't right...

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Reply 10 of 54, by Mau1wurf1977

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awergh wrote:

ah now I see the problem, have to have turbo on then I get 25.01 on speedsys and
12.1 on 3dbench

Sweet!

The CPU now works as it should. And I guess your ISA video card is quite a dog 🤣

Reply 11 of 54, by awergh

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Yeah it looks like it, I remember trying to play relentless on it and it was fine for a while and then when I went into a particular room and it was just a black screen instead of the actual room making finishing the game impossible luckily I managed to play it on something else.

I do have another ISA card which has UMC um85c408af on it but don't know anything else about it and an S3 805 VLB card, and a bigger older ISA card that has NT-200B on it that was in it before I put the current card in it.

Reply 13 of 54, by keropi

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allright, I'm gonna bench my IBM PS1/pro that has a 1MB isa cirus vga and a 486slc2/40mhz upgrade cpu 😜

edit: here we are 😊

CPU: Cyrix 486slc2/40mhz (clip-on 386sx/20 upgrade with 1kb L1 cache)
Mainboard: IBM PS1/pro 2123 model , no idea what it uses...
Amount of RAM: 16MB
Amount of L2 Cache: I have no clue.... it is a 386sx/20 machine
Video card: 1MB CL-GD5429 , ISA
3dbench score: 13.3

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Last edited by keropi on 2010-10-01, 07:14. Edited 1 time in total.

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Reply 14 of 54, by awergh

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The util I used to do that benchmark was speedsys http://forum.benchmarkreviews.com/showthread.php?t=12287

3dbench is the util that Mau1wurf1977 wants everyone to use to bench cpu and video card

I didn't know how much cache I had untill I had a good look at it starting up.

Reply 16 of 54, by keropi

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np, if I get a util that can display the extra info I will post here... the IBM bios displays only memory count on startup, no hardware config whatsoever... Also the bios is limited to the extreme basics too and you use a boot-disk to enter it... typical brand-name bios on the era 😁

here is the machine (2123 pro PS1 model)

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Reply 17 of 54, by Mau1wurf1977

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PS/1 are awesome! IBM quality with ISA slots for soundcards 😀

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Reply 18 of 54, by keropi

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yeah, it is a nice 386 machine, I had it since it was brand new in ~1991 😁
back on the topic, if I am to believe this program, then I have 512kb L2 cache...???! I find it hard to believe it though but you never know...

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