What about 3DMark 99 or 2000? I even got my S3 ViRGE DX 4MB to run on 2000, although the image was terrible 🤣

Apart from that, maybe Test Drive 4? I played 5 a lot but that is pretty bad performance wise on older cards and only has a D3D6/Voodoo2 driver.

Btw I love the website! 😁

Yup Turok is a good choice. Also, Shadows of the Empire (table fog) and Jedi Knight are useful DirectX 5 games.

I did already run some of those chips with Turok and SotE in the stickied 3D accelerator thread though.

(from your list)
3Dlabs Permedia 2
Cirrus Logic Laguna3D
Matrox Mystique 220
nVIDIA Riva 128
Rendition Vérité V2200
S3 ViRGE/GX

Run Turok with -benchmark in order to easily access a waterfall scene.

leileilol wrote:

Run Turok with -benchmark in order to easily access a waterfall scene.

Tried, but is there any pause in benchmark mode? It still will be not usefull since mystique freeze always when pci bus mastering is enabled and with disabled game renders about 1frame per 5 sec in 640x480 - its usable only at 320x240.

OUCH! That sounds terrible! Makes PCX2 feel high end!

How about the X demo benchmark?

To be able to not only compare the speed of the different cards but also the image quality produced, you can turn on the screen […]
Show full quote

To be able to not only compare the speed of the different cards
but also the image quality produced, you can turn on the
screenshot capture option. If you have this option turned on
X will try to safe one screenshot per scene of the demo to
the directory "c:\cap". This directory has to exist for capturing
to work!

Using this feature it sounds quite easy to get a set of screens for each card. I guess you might even abort after some scenes if the screens are sufficient.
As a hint press F11 for Menu and there you can change options. It is also quite interesting for early cards as it uses destination blending as default (though can be changed to alpha blending if you prefer).

I too had stability problems with Mystique and Millennium 2. These cards were problematic in 3d but I think most people just used their 2d so it's not well known that they were troublesome. I have used Mystique 220 significantly and the 3d testing brought up forgotten memories of the problems. BTW, driver 3.77 was a preferred gaming version I recall.

If I recall correctly I had problems with virgegx in Turok as well. Even though the game officially supports them. I didn't bother to go through old drivers though.

Ah, nothing like the hair pulling experience of screen capping. I went through the same ordeal.
Technically speaking, aren't the cards you listed mostly all 3rd gen cards?

You may want to try MDK. Here I saved you the trouble. 😁
http://home.comcast.net/~bushwack/vogons/grap … s_of_97_mdk.zip

I went through 13 different chipsets of 4mb PCI cards on the Market in 1997.
All the drivers I used were the latest ones I could find dated no later then 12/97 and were from the manufacturer, except for that funky Diamond DM975.

elianda wrote:

How about the X demo benchmark? […]
Show full quote

How about the X demo benchmark?

To be able to not only compare the speed of the different cards but also the image quality produced, you can turn on the screen […]
Show full quote

To be able to not only compare the speed of the different cards
but also the image quality produced, you can turn on the
screenshot capture option. If you have this option turned on
X will try to safe one screenshot per scene of the demo to
the directory "c:\cap". This directory has to exist for capturing
to work!

Using this feature it sounds quite easy to get a set of screens for each card. I guess you might even abort after some scenes if the screens are sufficient.
As a hint press F11 for Menu and there you can change options. It is also quite interesting for early cards as it uses destination blending as default (though can be changed to alpha blending if you prefer).

Good one, adding it to testing. But screenshots have messed colors, they look weird on mystique and voodoo 1 too. I used safe screenshot function, didnt found any other way how to enable it. But screns from hypersnap are ok. So think i do some manual shooting.

There's a version of FRAPS that works on Win9x, btw. That's what I used.

For the Voodoo capturing you need Hypersnap though.