Interesting to see this, I've just put together a slot A box and I'm wondering about the comparison to my k6/3 [very similar to k6/2+ if not the same]. Your results show quite a performance jump to slot A for the same clockspeed - about double the 3dmark2001 score for the same clock speed.

OT: Makes me wonder whether there's any need for my k6/3 system as it stands; I think I'd better switch to a + model so I can slow it down or even a k6/2 400 as I think the only use compared to the slot A is to give 386/486-level performance. Seems like as it is, disabling L1 gives 386 speed but disabling L2 makes little difference to speed-sensitive dos games. The slot A behaves the same but maybe a different k6 chip will be better - I don't need the top end speed on the k6 anyhow.

there's another important benchmark to do: superpi!
i had a k6-2+500 and ali5 mainboard(gigabyte 5ax rev4.1), and i remember i got around 5:50 or so, how does it perform on your mvp3?
superpi-1.5mod can't run in windows98, so i used an old version without decimal. i have seen pics of superpi version with digits that works in windows98 but couldn't find it, can you find it?

I told my Phenom II about what your Phenom II did, and just to put everything in perspective it said to post this :

😜

On a serious note, the test results of the K6-2+ really were a big improvement over the K6-2. 5 to 10 fps leaps may not seem like much now to some people since hardware is cheaper and almost everything runs at 60 fps or above constantly now, but back then it could really make or break the gameplay of a title that was pushing the system hard.

just did the 2001se benchmark on my 2600k/560ti and it scored ~63000 🤣

noshutdown wrote:

there's another important benchmark to do: superpi!
i had a k6-2+500 and ali5 mainboard(gigabyte 5ax rev4.1), and i remember i got around 5:50 or so, how does it perform on your mvp3?
superpi-1.5mod can't run in windows98, so i used an old version without decimal. i have seen pics of superpi version with digits that works in windows98 but couldn't find it, can you find it?

There is one version of superpi that has decimals and works in 9x. It has 2 bugs though:
1)It crashes the system after it's first run, but works perfectly fine after that (it will remember that score though)
2)It sometimes displays seconds weird (hard to explain).

But despite these bugs, I still use this superpi. I'll see if I can upload it somewhere or find it, the bugs aren't serious enough for me to not use it

Edit:Btw, do we have a 3dmark2001se thread or something? 2001se is one of my standard benchmark utils along with superpi 😜

Tetrium wrote:

Edit:Btw, do we have a 3dmark2001se thread or something? 2001se is one of my standard benchmark utils along with superpi 😜

Might be fun. I just did my athlon 700 with a 3dlabs vp870 and got 4384, but my phenom 9350e with hd4850 only got about 19600. Pretty sure my p4 640 + fx5950u did 15-16000 so that phenom/radeon combo seems a bit underwhelming.

ratfink wrote:

Might be fun. I just did my athlon 700 with a 3dlabs vp870 and got 4384, but my phenom 9350e with hd4850 only got about 19600. Pretty sure my p4 640 + fx5950u did 15-16000 so that phenom/radeon combo seems a bit underwhelming.

Well, that could be just from the much higher clock speed of the P4 940 (3.2GHz) than of the 9350e (2.0Ghz). I doubt 3DMark01 was written for anything more than 1 or 2 cores. (and maybe the Radeon isn't as suited for DX7/8 graphics 😜)

I figured there'd be a few people out there with faster systems to post higher scores, but for what it's worth, I'm impressed with the longetivity of my Radeon HD 4850, I've had it since Summer '08 (just after release) and the thing still runs everything I throw at it, Dirt 3 and Portal 2 run beautifully at max settings. Now if I could only become a better Rally driver (staying on the road would help).

I've never used SuperPi, but now I'll need to find it. What's the version number of SuperPi that'll work on Win98, even if buggy? Another benchmark I'll have to try for processor analysis is SiSoft Sandra, I have an older version somewhere, I'll have to find it and do more tests.

To be fair the Slot A Athlon and K6-2+ results aren't clock for clock, but they're close, K7-550 vs K6-2+ 500. The other difference is the Video Card is a Voodoo3 2000 vs 3000. Still, they can't be THAT different, and still shows a huge jump just from going from K6 to K7 archetecture.

So I think I'm gonna have to grab my collection of K6 chips and find SiSoft Sandra, and a SuperPi that works on Win98 and try them again. A detailing of Processor specific tests rather than Graphical tests (like QuakeII and 3DMark) would better show what these chips are capable of.

I've also got a Cyrix MII 366 (2.5x100) and a 6x86L-PR200 (if it runs@1.5x100) I could try with the K6's, and a Voodoo3 2000 PCI I can toss in my Socket 370(100FSB) system I can test a Celeron 466, Pentium III 650 and a Celeron 800 to see how they compare. Plus if I feel adventurous enough, I might try throwing some tests at my Socket 754 (Sempron 2600 & 2800, A64-2800 & 3000) and 939 (3500+) boards.

I found this link: http://files.extremeoverclocking.com/file.php?f=36
SuperPi 1.1e, says it works with Win9x/NT/2k/XP.

maddmaxstar wrote:

I found this link: http://files.extremeoverclocking.com/file.php?f=36
SuperPi 1.1e, says it works with Win9x/NT/2k/XP.

Downloaded. I'm gonna give it a try 😀

Say, how about we create 2 new topics for our benchmark results? One for your version of SuperPi and one for 3dmark2001se? 😉

Edit:This one doesn't have decimals though

Sounds fun to me, I'll Bite 😀

keropi wrote:

just did the 2001se benchmark on my 2600k/560ti and it scored ~63000 🤣

Show off, haha 😁

Tetrium wrote:

Edit:This one doesn't have decimals though

Whats the version that runs under Win9x and does support decimals? (And where can I get it? 😜)

Just finished first calculation:
1M ran in 3m 9s (=189s) on this rig:
Pentium 3 933Mhz
VC820 motherboard
256MB RDRAM PC-800

Which calculation for SuperPi will we use anyway?
I reckon the 1M will take too short on new rigs and anything over 1M will start to get boring on anything real slow

maddmaxstar wrote:

Tetrium wrote:

Edit:This one doesn't have decimals though

Whats the version that runs under Win9x and does support decimals? (And where can I get it? 😜)

I'll see if I can upload it...

Edit:Uploaded! Check the download link below 😉

I'm good with 1M, that timing appears to be appropiate with older PI/II/III class systems

I just ran SuperPi 1.1e on the K6-2+ 500 at 1M, clear time of 6min 26s.

Just remember, this SuperPi always crashes the system after the first run. After a reboot, it still gives you the result and any calculation done after that runs without crashing anymore.
Also this runs on XP as well. I don't mind the crashing all that much though and theres a trick so it doesn't crash anymore.
The trick is to copy the result page along with the exe so when you go to benchmark your next rig, it'll have the result of the other machine already (I use 16k as I ignore that benchmark result anyway)

Edit:I uploaded a fix for the crashing.
I also included a readme this time. All you have to do is copy 1 extra file to the same directory as SuperPi and 2 things will happen if you open SuperPi:
1)It will display a result for 64k (it's the one from my P3 933Mhz)
2)No crashing 😀

There, SuperPi 1.1Mod @ 1M:
K6-2+ 500MHz = 6m 20.973s

EDIT: Yeah, I'm not overly worried about the crash, as long as it gives results.

maddmaxstar wrote:

ratfink wrote:

but for what it's worth, I'm impressed with the longetivity of my Radeon HD 4850, I've had it since Summer '08 (just after release) and the thing still runs everything I throw at it, Dirt 3 and Portal 2 run beautifully at max settings.

Yeah, I have to agree with you there 100 percent. My sons system uses a HD 4830, and that thing still runs stuff great for the most part. Even my two 8800 GTS 320 cards still hang tough even today in my SLI rig, granted I dont run anything at a res higher then 1440x900 on them, since that is the monitors max res that the SLI rig is connected to. All in all, the medium to high end DX 10 generation of cards really have held up well.

Next result.
Mobile Pentium MMX 233MHz (Tillamook on MMC-1) = 12m 24.011s
System: IBM Thinkpad 380XD, 96mb EDO RAM, Win98se