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Re: The All-amazing super-de-douper SuperPi thread!

Postby AdamP » 2012-2-03 @ 18:47

More results:

Pentium II 166mhz 440BX:

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AMD Athlon 64 X2 6400+ 3.2GHZ:

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BTW, I hope using HyperPi isn't considered cheating :happy:


And how can SuperPi be faster in Win 3.1 than in Win 98? Is it because of background tasks etc? If so, then these tests aren't technically fair are they?
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Re: The All-amazing super-de-douper SuperPi thread!

Postby AdamP » 2012-2-03 @ 19:01

I've just realised I've done the tests at 512k, and not the "required" 1M. As I'm too lazy to do more tests :), can I just double those figures?
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Re: The All-amazing super-de-douper SuperPi thread!

Postby Aideka » 2012-2-03 @ 20:44

Pentium 4 (Cedar Mill) 3.0ghz @ 3.75ghz, 2x 1 Gb ddr2 667mhz, Asus P5PL2 (Intel 945PL) - 36.738s

Test done with HT on, but i guess it does nothing with this test?
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Re: The All-amazing super-de-douper SuperPi thread!

Postby CapnCrunch53 » 2012-2-05 @ 02:35

I ran it on the 4 old PCs I've been building recently and came up with the following results:
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Galactica - 2:21.344s - 1.0GHz Pentium III Coppermine (dual CPU but the program is single-threaded), Supermicro 370DLE, 768MB RAM, Windows 2000 Pro
David - 2:42.641s -1.1GHz Celeron Coppermine, Intel D815EGEW, 512MB RAM, Windows 2000 Pro
Edgar - 4:07.143s - 600MHz Pentium III Coppermine, MSI MS6182, 384MB RAM, Windows 98SE
Armando - 16:33.135s - 475MHz K6-2, not sure on motherboard (prebuild IBM Aptiva), 384MB RAM, Windows 98SE

Doesn't that time seem way too slow for a K6-2? Looks like I'm gonna have to go through the BIOS settings and see if I screwed something up...
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Re: The All-amazing super-de-douper SuperPi thread!

Postby maddmaxstar » 2012-2-05 @ 03:56

CapnCrunch53 wrote:Armando - 16:33.135s - 475MHz K6-2, not sure on motherboard (prebuild IBM Aptiva), 384MB RAM, Windows 98SE

Doesn't that time seem way too slow for a K6-2? Looks like I'm gonna have to go through the BIOS settings and see if I screwed something up...


That is kinda slow for a K6-2, my times for a 450 and 500 were: 8m 54.413s and 8m 26.852s respectively, but I think there's an explanation... I ran a test on another machine I've been working on, a K6-2 500 running on an Asus TX4E i430TX board (512k L2 I believe), running on an overclocked bus with a Hacked BIOS @ 6x83MHz.. and there was a dramatic time increase in SuperPi, around the 16min mark like yours. In comparison my 8m tests were done with a 100MHz bus using 1mb of L2. I think it might be heavily affected by the Chipset type/bus speed and the speed/quality/quantity of the onboard L2 cache. Not to mention K6-2's stink at Floating point operations anyway.

BTW: I like the PC names, I have a box named Galactica as well. (and one named Pegasus, a Laptop named Colonial-1, etc)
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Re: The All-amazing super-de-douper SuperPi thread!

Postby maddmaxstar » 2012-2-05 @ 03:59

AdamP wrote:I've just realised I've done the tests at 512k, and not the "required" 1M. As I'm too lazy to do more tests :), can I just double those figures?


I don't think the test quite works that way, I don't think 512k is exactly half the time it takes to do 1M. Though I don't see an issue with logging them as "@512k". Still, only takes a few minutes to pop the machine back up and run Pi again :)
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Re: The All-amazing super-de-douper SuperPi thread!

Postby CapnCrunch53 » 2012-2-05 @ 04:19

maddmaxstar wrote:That is kinda slow for a K6-2, my times for a 450 and 500 were: 8m 54.413s and 8m 26.852s respectively, but I think there's an explanation... I ran a test on another machine I've been working on, a K6-2 500 running on an Asus TX4E i430TX board (512k L2 I believe), running on an overclocked bus with a Hacked BIOS @ 6x83MHz.. and there was a dramatic time increase in SuperPi, around the 16min mark like yours. In comparison my 8m tests were done with a 100MHz bus using 1mb of L2. I think it might be heavily affected by the Chipset type/bus speed and the speed/quality/quantity of the onboard L2 cache. Not to mention K6-2's stink at Floating point operations anyway.

BTW: I like the PC names, I have a box named Galactica as well. (and one named Pegasus, a Laptop named Colonial-1, etc)


Ah, thanks for the explanation! Didn't realize that the K6-2's have the cache on the motherboard. I just went and checked and yep, only 512KB cache. It's also 95MHz bus with a x5 multiplier. Mystery solved!

Oh and as for naming, it's kind of funny, you can tell how old my PCs are by the names. Anything with a proper or biblical name (my dad used biblical names a lot) is probably an old family PC that my dad named, and anything that's a spaceship was named by me. I knew the entire year I was planning out and saving up for my first rig that I wanted to name it after the ship in Stargate SG-1, Prometheus. Armando is actually the exception; I bought him at a thrift store, and since he was my first ever AMD system, I thought it'd be funny to name him ArManDo. Nice to meet a fellow BSG fan! For some reason I haven't gotten around to watching the 4th season yet, I need to make this a priority...
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Re: The All-amazing super-de-douper SuperPi thread!

Postby sgt76 » 2012-2-08 @ 14:28

Thought I was gonna be up all night doing this, but surprisingly 12m 29.815s from a Dell Optiplex GXPro- Pentium Pro 200mhz/ Intel 82440FX "Natoma"/ 128mb EDO ECC/ Win 98SE. Hmm, that's right between a K6-233 and 233MMX.
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Re: The All-amazing super-de-douper SuperPi thread!

Postby Tetrium » 2012-2-08 @ 17:15

Updated list:

Core2Duo E8500 @ 3.8GHZ (400FSB) - 12.476s
Core i7-2720QM 2.2Ghz - 12.854s
X4 960T 4.4GHz - 16.286s
Phenom II X6 1090T (3.2GHz+Turbo, Thuban Core, 6x512k L2, 6MB L3) = 21.434s
Core i3 M330 2.13GHz - 21.513s
PhenomII 3.2Ghz - 21.699s
X4 960T 3.0GHz - 23.353s
Athlon X2 4850e (2.5GHz Brisbane, 2x512k L2) - 36.219s
Pentium 4 (Cedar Mill) 3.75Ghz - 36.738s
Athlon 64 3000+ (Venice E6) @ 2.5ghz - 37.172s
Prescott 3.0E @ 3.6Ghz - 38.750s
AMD Athlon 64 X2 4400+ (2.3GHz Brisbane 65nm 2x512k L2) = 39.204s
P4 3.2C @ 3.6GHz (northwood) - 41.125s
Phenom II X3 E840 (1.9GHz, Caspian core, 3x512mb L2 Cache) = 41.169s
Athlon 64 3200+ 2.2Ghz - 42.594s
Athlon 64 3500+ 2.2Ghz - 43.906s
Athlon 64 3200+ 2.2Ghz - 45.015s
Prescott 3.0E@3ghz - 45.094s
AMD Athlon 64 3700+ (2.2GHz 1MB L2, San Diego) = 45.312s
P4 Northwood HT 3.2Ghz - 46.734s
P4 Northwood HT 3.2GHz - 48.984s
Northwood 2.8B @ 3.15ghz - 55.57s
Athlon XP 3200+ (2.2Ghz) - 57.406s
Sempron 2600+ (1.83Ghz 333fsb) - 1m 05.438s
XP 2000+ (1.67Ghz Palomino 133fsb) - 1m 23.850s
Pentium 3 1400S - 1m50.764s
Athlon Thunderbird 1400C - 2m 0.766s
Pentium III 1400Mhz - 2m 6.150s
1.0GHz Pentium III Coppermine - 2m 21.344s
1.1Ghz Celeron Coppermine - 2m 42.641s
2 x P3 800 - 02m 42.750s
PIII Coppermine @ 966mhz - 2m 57.883s
Coppermine 1000 - 2m 58.616s
Mobile Pentium 3 650 (Win2000 SP4) - 3m 02.853s
Pentium III 933Mhz - 3m 9.189s
P3 800 Slot 1 - 03m 13.706s
Pentium 3 650MHz - 3m 7.930s
Intel Celeron 800MHz - 3m 29.461s
AMD Athlon 700MHz - 3m 38.915s
Mobile Celeron 500MHz (Win2000 SP4) - 4m 6.975s
Pentium III Coppermine 600Mhz - 4m 7.143s
Intel Celeron 800 - 4m 07.752s
AMD Athlon 550MHz - 4m 13.074s
Intel Celeron 466MHz - 5m 03.346s
Mobile Celeron 500MHz (Coppermine, Skt 495) = 6m 00.120s
k6/3 450 - 6m 18.131s
Celeron 366MHz - 6m 38.563s
Celeron 333MHz - 6m 57.971s
Pentium 2 266MHz - 7m 26.852s
AMD K6-2 @495mhz - 8m 7.024s
Celeron 266MHz - 9m 14.117
Cyrix MII 300Mhz - 11m 23.560s
Mobile Pentium MMX 233MHz (Tillamook on MMC-1) - 12m 24.011s
Pentium Pro 200Mhz - 12m 29.815s
AMD K6-233 - 12m 42.204s
Pentium 133mhz - 16m 23.153s
K6-2 475Mhz - 16m 33.135s
Pentium 66 - 30min 36sec 231ms
Intel Pentium 75MHz - 45m 27.274s
AMD Enhanced Am486DX4 120MHz - 50m 31.356s
386SX-16 - 27days 19h 31min 43sec
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Re: The All-amazing super-de-douper SuperPi thread!

Postby sprcorreia » 2012-2-15 @ 16:13

One more: Phenom II X6 1055T - 21.154s
ASUS P2B with P3 1100 for sale.

http://www.amibay.com/showthread.php?95680-Asus-P2B-Rev-1-10-Intel-P3-1-1GHz-with-Asus-adapter-and-Coolermaster-cooler

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Re: The All-amazing super-de-douper SuperPi thread!

Postby elianda » 2012-2-15 @ 17:52

maddmaxstar wrote:Here's the photos (I don't have a DOS/Win3.x screenshot utility) of my 386sx and 486DLC rigs on SuperPi 1.1e (no decimals)

i386sx-16+i387 FPU / 4mb 30pin RAM / DOS 6.22Win3.11+Win32s:
4h 8min 49s

*note: Syschk, Speedsys and PC-Config all identify as being 20MHz, but the chips are stamped as 16's. Could be possible it's overclocked but I've never touched it, and the CPU is surface mounted. The systems never run unstable and is still rock solid after 20 years, even the NiCd CMOS battery holds a charge.


Well, it is faster than my 386-16, so I guess it runs at 20 MHz.
On the other hand my system is not a 386DX-16 with a 387DX but just a 386-16 / 387-16. I'am not sure how a 387-16 compares to a 387SX-16. The SX might have already the faster core like the 387DX.
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Re: The All-amazing super-de-douper SuperPi thread!

Postby Markk » 2012-2-15 @ 18:11

386 and 386DX is the same. The DX suffix was added to the 386 when the SX came out.
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Re: The All-amazing super-de-douper SuperPi thread!

Postby maddmaxstar » 2012-2-15 @ 20:46

elianda wrote:
maddmaxstar wrote:Here's the photos (I don't have a DOS/Win3.x screenshot utility) of my 386sx and 486DLC rigs on SuperPi 1.1e (no decimals)

i386sx-16+i387 FPU / 4mb 30pin RAM / DOS 6.22Win3.11+Win32s:
4h 8min 49s

*note: Syschk, Speedsys and PC-Config all identify as being 20MHz, but the chips are stamped as 16's. Could be possible it's overclocked but I've never touched it, and the CPU is surface mounted. The systems never run unstable and is still rock solid after 20 years, even the NiCd CMOS battery holds a charge.


Well, it is faster than my 386-16, so I guess it runs at 20 MHz.
On the other hand my system is not a 386DX-16 with a 387DX but just a 386-16 / 387-16. I'am not sure how a 387-16 compares to a 387SX-16. The SX might have already the faster core like the 387DX.


Yeah, sorry about that, I didn't notice that it was a PS/2 Model 80, I just looked at it quick and thought "PS/2 386-16? must be a 55SX" like the one I have in the corner.

The 386SX should be slower, the difference was that the SX had a 16bit bus similar to what the 286 had, whereas 386/386DX had it's own 32bit bus. It's interesting to see that the differences aren't that drastic.

As for mine running at 20, I believe it is, while looking it over when I was testing some SIMMs I just got, I found it has a 40MHz Clock crystal installed. Might have been an upgrade by the previous owner, it was 4yrs old when I got it :P
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Re: The All-amazing super-de-douper SuperPi thread!

Postby Malik » 2012-2-22 @ 18:13

Just tested out the attached SuperPI with my Athlon II :

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Re: The All-amazing super-de-douper SuperPi thread!

Postby sgt76 » 2012-2-27 @ 04:13

Just tested my "new" C2Q build. Q6600 @ 3.2ghz/ X38/4gb DDR800 (4-4-4-15)/ Win XP Pro SP3 - 15.953s.

Updated list:

Core2Duo E8500 @ 3.8GHZ (400FSB) - 12.476s
Core i7-2720QM 2.2Ghz - 12.854s
Q6600@ 3.2ghz - 15.953s
X4 960T 4.4GHz - 16.286s
Phenom II X6 1055T - 21.154s
Phenom II X6 1090T (3.2GHz+Turbo, Thuban Core, 6x512k L2, 6MB L3) = 21.434s
Core i3 M330 2.13GHz - 21.513s
PhenomII 3.2Ghz - 21.699s
X4 960T 3.0GHz - 23.353s
Athlon II X3 450 - 25.672s
Athlon X2 4850e (2.5GHz Brisbane, 2x512k L2) - 36.219s
Pentium 4 (Cedar Mill) 3.75Ghz - 36.738s
Athlon 64 3000+ (Venice E6) @ 2.5ghz - 37.172s
Prescott 3.0E @ 3.6Ghz - 38.750s
AMD Athlon 64 X2 4400+ (2.3GHz Brisbane 65nm 2x512k L2) = 39.204s
P4 3.2C @ 3.6GHz (northwood) - 41.125s
Phenom II X3 E840 (1.9GHz, Caspian core, 3x512mb L2 Cache) = 41.169s
Athlon 64 3200+ 2.2Ghz - 42.594s
Athlon 64 3500+ 2.2Ghz - 43.906s
Athlon 64 3200+ 2.2Ghz - 45.015s
Prescott 3.0E@3ghz - 45.094s
AMD Athlon 64 3700+ (2.2GHz 1MB L2, San Diego) = 45.312s
P4 Northwood HT 3.2Ghz - 46.734s
P4 Northwood HT 3.2GHz - 48.984s
Northwood 2.8B @ 3.15ghz - 55.57s
Athlon XP 3200+ (2.2Ghz) - 57.406s
Sempron 2600+ (1.83Ghz 333fsb) - 1m 05.438s
XP 2000+ (1.67Ghz Palomino 133fsb) - 1m 23.850s
Pentium 3 1400S - 1m50.764s
Athlon Thunderbird 1400C - 2m 0.766s
Pentium III 1400Mhz - 2m 6.150s
1.0GHz Pentium III Coppermine - 2m 21.344s
1.1Ghz Celeron Coppermine - 2m 42.641s
2 x P3 800 - 02m 42.750s
PIII Coppermine @ 966mhz - 2m 57.883s
Coppermine 1000 - 2m 58.616s
Mobile Pentium 3 650 (Win2000 SP4) - 3m 02.853s
Pentium III 933Mhz - 3m 9.189s
P3 800 Slot 1 - 03m 13.706s
Pentium 3 650MHz - 3m 7.930s
Intel Celeron 800MHz - 3m 29.461s
AMD Athlon 700MHz - 3m 38.915s
Mobile Celeron 500MHz (Win2000 SP4) - 4m 6.975s
Pentium III Coppermine 600Mhz - 4m 7.143s
Intel Celeron 800 - 4m 07.752s
AMD Athlon 550MHz - 4m 13.074s
Intel Celeron 466MHz - 5m 03.346s
Mobile Celeron 500MHz (Coppermine, Skt 495) = 6m 00.120s
k6/3 450 - 6m 18.131s
Celeron 366MHz - 6m 38.563s
Celeron 333MHz - 6m 57.971s
Pentium 2 266MHz - 7m 26.852s
AMD K6-2 @495mhz - 8m 7.024s
Celeron 266MHz - 9m 14.117
Cyrix MII 300Mhz - 11m 23.560s
Mobile Pentium MMX 233MHz (Tillamook on MMC-1) - 12m 24.011s
Pentium Pro 200Mhz - 12m 29.815s
AMD K6-233 - 12m 42.204s
Pentium 133mhz - 16m 23.153s
K6-2 475Mhz - 16m 33.135s
Pentium 66 - 30min 36sec 231ms
Intel Pentium 75MHz - 45m 27.274s
AMD Enhanced Am486DX4 120MHz - 50m 31.356s
386SX-16 - 27days 19h 31min 43sec
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Re: The All-amazing super-de-douper SuperPi thread!

Postby Malik » 2012-2-27 @ 04:53

Tetrium wrote:386SX-16 - 27days 19h 31min 43sec


Oh my!! That's almost a month there!!!
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Re: The All-amazing super-de-douper SuperPi thread!

Postby coppercitymt » 2012-2-27 @ 05:24

ASUS P5G41T-M LX With a Celeron E3400 2.60Ghz 3GB Ram 500GB HDD Win 7 32.

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Re: The All-amazing super-de-douper SuperPi thread!

Postby sprcorreia » 2012-2-27 @ 19:36

A few more results:

Pentium Pro 200MHz 256K Cache - 9m 41.396s
Slot 1 P3 550MHz Katmai - 3m 54.808s
Slot A Athlon 600MHz Pluto - 3m 32.616s
Slot A Athlon 950MHz Orion - 2m 58.426s
Slot A Athlon 1GHz Orion - 2m 52.087s
Slot 1 P3 1GHz FSB100 - 2m 28.654s
ASUS P2B with P3 1100 for sale.

http://www.amibay.com/showthread.php?95680-Asus-P2B-Rev-1-10-Intel-P3-1-1GHz-with-Asus-adapter-and-Coolermaster-cooler

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Re: The All-amazing super-de-douper SuperPi thread!

Postby AdamP » 2012-2-28 @ 00:33

A couple more results:

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The Pentium III 450 does 1M digits in about the same time my Pentium II @166mhz does 512K. Does this mean it's twice as fast?
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Re: The All-amazing super-de-douper SuperPi thread!

Postby maddmaxstar » 2012-2-28 @ 00:40

AdamP wrote:The Pentium III 450 does 1M digits in about the same time my Pentium II @166mhz does 512K. Does this mean it's twice as fast?


I think that it would be even more than twice as fast. The 512k tests calculates Pi to over 512,000 decimal points, whereas 1M means over a Million, each decimal point getting exponentially harder to calculate.

Best way to test it would be to run the 512k test on the PII-450


Also, does anyone know of a simple, easy to install/use SuperPi for OS8-9 or OSX? I've got a couple of PowerPC based machines I could test and add to the mix...
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= K6-2+ 500(V3-2000) =
= Pentium 75 Gold(Voodoo1) =
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