it's an SCB-7 , a General Midi daughterboard, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roland_SC-7

It stampe rigth on board Roland SCB-7

I know what it says on it, I was wondering if anyone has/had one.

Whoa hey can ya thumbnail thatt!? 😁

I have a SCB-55, aka SCD-15, its big brother. But for gaming they are the same AFAIK.

I imagine he has stuck note problems with it on that AWE32. Ive never got mine working properly on any Creative card.

Oh wasn't that card on ebay rigth boy did you get a good deal if works

sliderider wrote:

I know what it says on it, I was wondering if anyone has/had one.

I have an SCB-7 like that. Together with the MPU-401AT card it is all the Roland branded hardware I have.

The SCB-7 is not used often here, somehow, but it is good to have a real hardware Sound Canvas card available.

I have a couple of scb-7's. To me they sound absolutely fine in games I have tried.

I have an SC-7. SCB-7 is basically the daughterboard version of that external synth. According to this table ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roland_Sound_Canvas#Products ) it is a bit worse than a SC-55. I know for a fact that it lacks the MT-32 sound bank which is present in the SC-55 (no big loss there!), but all in all it sounds pretty much identical (or at least to my ears) to an SC-55 in games.

Fixed the stupid huge image. Seriously now, 3400x2300?

F2bnp wrote:

According to this table ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roland_Sound_Canvas#Products ) it is a bit worse than a SC-55.

It look as though the sc-7/scb-7 meets the GM standard of 128 sound banks, and outputs at 16-bit/44mhz.

The scb-55/sc-55 does GS as well so has over 300 voices [depending on the model] and outputs at 16-bit/44mhz or 18-bit/32mhz depending on the model.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_MIDI_standards

If games just use GM presumably we won't hear any difference unless you can discern 16-bit/18-bit differences.

If games use GS, the SCB-7/SC-7 will sound "wrong".

From my recollection, there were differences in the game recordings of sc/scb-7 vs sc/scb-55 on some of the comparisons websites [I forget which - maybe swaaye's, dosforum.de, wavetable.nl] which meant the sc/scb-7 didn't sound as full somehow. But when I used the scb-7 myself [I don't have an sc/scb-55] it sounded fine. Conceivably I was listening to GS games on the web but only tried GM games myself I suppose.

Did many/any games use GS rather than GM though?

I know what you mean about the sound sounding full though. There is some slight difference, but I find it quite subtle, so in all honesty I think it sounds pretty much like a SC-55. It never occured to me that it wasn't GS compatible though... That may explain a couple of things... 😜

@ratfink: I believe the 18bit "sound rendering" the db does gets lost once it is connected to a sb...

I have a RAP-10 and an SC-55mkII. I believe the RAP-10 has the same GM sample set as the SC-7.

I think some of the samples of the SC-55mkII are different to the SC-7 as I do notice some subtle differences in the sound between the two devices. As far as I'm aware there weren't any games that use GS mode.
Rise of the Triad has a Sound Canvas option in the setup, as opposed to General MIDI, but it doesn't sound any different to me on the SC55mkII.

I have both Roland cards, the scd-10 (scb-7) and the scb-55. Also have the MT-32 and SC-155. I have 6 more daughterboards but to me the best is Roland.

I'm not really partial to any of the MIDI cards and DBs that I have. I even like AWE32 sometimes.

I actually much prefer the yamaha XG synth's sample set over the Roland ones for nearly all games. I have an XR385 and a Yamaha MU10XG and they both sound the same to me.

The yamaha DB50XG is very good too. But there are some games where Roland is a bit better. Oddly i find the S-W1/C daughterboard very balanced and i like the sounds of it. But these are my opinions.

sprcorreia wrote:

The yamaha DB50XG is very good too. But there are some games where Roland is a bit better. Oddly i find the S-W1/C daughterboard very balanced and i like the sounds of it. But these are my opinions.

Just one problem with all that we can't have our cake and eat it to hehehe

shspvr wrote:

sprcorreia wrote:

The yamaha DB50XG is very good too. But there are some games where Roland is a bit better. Oddly i find the S-W1/C daughterboard very balanced and i like the sounds of it. But these are my opinions.

Just one problem with all that we can't have our cake and eat it to hehehe

Unless you want to have 6 sound cards in one system.