No, there's no add on card that provides PS/2. The PS2 ports are handled by the keyboard encoder, which makes it hard to just drop one in. AT keyboards don't do mice, so you're out of luck.

I was lucky enough to find a NIB ibm intellimouse, which came with a PS/2 adaptor. It's balled, but being brand new and IBM it's awesome. I don't know what a good generic solution for this problem is. Some hardware hacker out there really needs to make a PS/2 to serial protocol converter.

yes, i also browse through various topics about that. for amiga there are two solutions. not a problem as it seems. but not open hardware... commercial products. for using ps/2 mice on serial resp. mouse port of atari, amiga, c64.

for PC i've found an optical solution, ordered from usa. but it's not the best (re)solution. it needs a special mousepad. even a new ball mouse is better for most of the time better. got some for old 68k macs. still working good.
problem is, there are no serial mice to get on ebay or any shops i know in new condition.

i also don't know of compatible ps/2 mice to use with adapter. so called combo mice. if there's a list or some recommendations, please let me know!

If you have the correct(whichever that might be?) 'gender' adapter, some older combo Microsoft PS2 (ball) mice can work, it seems:

http://www.computing.net/answers/hardware/ps2 … ctor/80032.html

Some model number inside there...

And, I'd be surprised if if the correct (working) adapter combo is not included in this little thing:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/290826856930

Somewhat pricey, but wont hurt to message seller with a 'best offer'..

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For fun, ISA card!:
Microsoft InPort 8-bit Bus Mouse Card Interface Board..w/Mouse
http://www.ebay.com/itm/271121977701

Best option?:
Microsoft Mouse with IntelliPoint Software NIB
http://www.ebay.com/itm/290816134277

Other:
Microsoft Mouse & Microsoft Paintbrush Sealed PS/2 Version
http://www.ebay.com/itm/321039674459
("Serial interface also included" on the box!)

You want something better than BALL MOUSE on that serial port, right ?
Like in OPTICAL MOUSE...

As the serial port provides VERY little current, there are only a few options. Basically two routes:

1) You buy a special KVM switch or adapter, like the Raritan AT to PS2 MasterConsole adapter. Pricy, long discontinued and works well only in DOS (ask keropi and feipoa) This adapter draws power from the AT keyboard out + 9 pin serial out and provides two PS2 ports

2) Buy a Q500 optical serial mouse (is this what you had bought?). This one has two low power sensors for vertical and horizontal tracking. Has two buttons + middle button acts as double click as this was problematic with many low end systems. Needs a special gridlined mouse pad (might be replaced with a home-made one)
The Q500 does NOT suffer from input lag in Windows. I found it way more precise than ANY baller, although not very comfortable. Can be accustomed to.

? 3) there is a mysterious optical mouse that uses infrared for communication BUT the mouse is self-powered with AA batteries. I have been looking for this for quite a long time as well

Yeah, I got that he was preferrably looking for an OPTICAL mouse, yes indeed - but he also said that :

even a new ball mouse is better for most of the time better. got some for old 68k macs. still working good.
problem is, there are no serial mice to get on ebay or any shops i know in new condition.

Hence my humble suggestions... 😎

Not sure if this KVM would allow for 'master' console PS2 mouse and then serial to the particular PC to actually work, but would be nice if it did...:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/160724569619
("NEW ATEN Master View CPU Switch Model CS-104 for PS/2 and PC AT")

So there is no solution for this?

What is needed:
Optical mouse (PS/2 or USB) working on DOS/Windows (Windows not really important for me)

Solutions:
PCI controller card for PS/2 ports with DOS drivers
PCI controller card for USB ports with DOS drivers

Optical mouse (PS/2 or USB) that supports serial protocol, will work with those simple converters

Serial to PS/2 protocol converter, like the raritan converter, which is now impossible to find.

Serial to USB protocol converter, which i haven't seen any.

There are USB drivers now for DOS, but AFAIK those are only for storage solutions, like using an IDE to SATA adapter that can then be used with compact flash cards and USB storage.

What can we conclude of all these solutions? All of them impossible?

You might want to see if you can use some serial mouse drivers in DOS for the Vetra Systems ps/2-to-serial converters. Those are still available new. They have 3 versions which use different serial mouse drivers.
http://www.vetra.com/327text.html

The tracking quality wasn't the best in Windows (esp. at higher resolutions), but neither was the Raritan's.

You'd think someone would just be able to make a small arduino board to make a simple converter

This PCI controller card says it works without drivers and it supports Win98. I would guess it works in DOS as well. Anyone tried something like this with a 486 PCI board?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2-Port-USB-2-0-2-Port … =item2a19db3be2

vetz wrote:

This PCI controller card says it works without drivers and it supports Win98. I would guess it works in DOS as well. Anyone tried something like this with a 486 PCI board?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2-Port-USB-2-0-2-Port … =item2a19db3be2

Are there DOS USB HID mouse drivers available? If so, it might work in DOS. That card is really a USB HID card.

You are convinced the PS/2 ports on that card are basically just USB devices?

vetz wrote:

You are convinced the PS/2 ports on that card are basically just USB devices?

Yes, that is what PS/2 mice were identified as in Win98SE and Win2000 when I tested this out a few years ago.

feipoa wrote:

vetz wrote:

You are convinced the PS/2 ports on that card are basically just USB devices?

Yes, that is what PS/2 mice were identified as in Win98SE and Win2000 when I tested this out a few years ago.

How can that be? The Biostar 486 PCI motherboards we have, have a PS/2 mouse port and that was before USB ports started appearing on motherboards. If the PS/2 mouse port is a USB device then there would have to be a USB controller on the motherboard and if there is a USB controller on the motherboard, wouldn't you be able to wire up a USB port directly to it?

That specific card may be USB without implying that every PS/2 port is USB.

I doesn't need drivers because all OSes that card supports are plug & play. DOS is not! Without a proper driver for DOS i bet the card won't work.

I can confirm that that particular card does NOT work in DOS - and that is on a BX Slot1 mobo....

Connecting the keyboard does not have any effect - keyboard does NOT turn 'on'. (no lights on numlock etc leds)

Makes me wonder if it would work at all after booting to some kind of windows... 😒

Oh well, good thing it didn't cost that much...

Edit: not even the USB part works in DOS/boot..... 😵 😒
Tried connecting the keyboard via an adapter, which actually works on the mobo USB ports(!), but NOT via that friggin card.

I have a PCChips M921 board that has a broken PS/2 mouse connector (board bug) and some sort of either PCI, ISA or adapter would be very great.

I guess that controller card do work in Windows though, and from there you could play DOS games through a DOS window with USB mouse support?

I also found this:
http://www.weisd.com/test/WEISD_TBL_view.php? … d1=QVSCA246-2BB

Anyone know what it is? PS2 support as stated or just Bus mouse?

Ok, just created a new 'pc', with BX mobo, celeron300A and SATA hdd with WinXP.

Can confirm that after a lenghty (automated/selfstarting) driver update process(no input from me needed), XP tells me that the newly found hardware is fully installed and ready for use.

And, keyboard works, yay ! 🤣

Although quite a bit pointless for a Windows USB PC, unless your regular PS2 connectors are dead/damaged, and/or you for some unexplicable reason are unable to use a regular PS2/USB (active, or not) adapter...
(even my IBM model M works with some of those)

But somehow I do have my doubts as to if the card would work in say win98, without ANY drivers I mean.... This is a USB card after all, for which win98 seems to always need special drivers for... 😜

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As for that "QVS CA246-2BB bus mouse ISA PS2" in your link, it is hard to tell, as I am unable to see the number/layout of the connector holes on the card in that picture. But I'd be VERY surprised if that was for PS2.
So it is most likely a BUS mouse. Both the card and the mouse itself.
Regardless, not sure how a PS2 mouse would operate on a BUS mouse controller card though....
http://www.answers.com/topic/bus-mouse

There ARE pin adapters around, but only seen them for BUS mouse to PS2/serial/parallell PC port:
http://www.ebay.com/itm//300785668391
That 'beige/white' box can have different adapters connected - usually comes as a part of those large MS mouse boxes, with full set of connectors.

Some claim these work both ways(PS2 mouse to BUS card), but good luck finding a BUS mouse cable for this thing - which would have to have the circular 9-pin on BOTH ends, for from-adapter-to-card.
You'd probably have to cannibalize on the other connectors, and the BUS mouse itself, to make such a thing.

(you are normally supposed to plug the BUS mouse in one end, and the other end the corresponding connector to PC, i.e. PS2/serial9/parallell25 - serial9 in the picture)

If you are really desperate for a DOS mouse, regardless of interface, theres the one in my first post - http://www.ebay.com/itm/271128977733 )

sliderider wrote:

feipoa wrote:

vetz wrote:

You are convinced the PS/2 ports on that card are basically just USB devices?

Yes, that is what PS/2 mice were identified as in Win98SE and Win2000 when I tested this out a few years ago.

How can that be? The Biostar 486 PCI motherboards we have, have a PS/2 mouse port and that was before USB ports started appearing on motherboards. If the PS/2 mouse port is a USB device then there would have to be a USB controller on the motherboard and if there is a USB controller on the motherboard, wouldn't you be able to wire up a USB port directly to it?

I was only refering to the PS/2 ports on the USB/ps/2 PCI cards. Those need HID drivers in Windows. Onboard motherboard PS/2 ports are not what I am refering to here.