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First post, by Mau1wurf1977

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Ages ago I had a thread going about an Acer 486 that I picked up in Perth: Mau1wurf1977's first 486 PC - Lot's of pics - Tell me what I can do with it

At the moment I have a 486DX33 CPU clocked at 25MHz. Now I got quite a few 486 CPUs lying around, ranging from SX and DX CPUs, to DX2, DX4 Intel and AMD and some weird UMC Green CPUs.

I also had three unknown CPUs, unknown because they have an non-removable cooler. I ran some CPUID software and one seems to be a SX, whereas the other two seem to be DX2.

I tried heating up the SX CPU in the machine and then removing the cooler, but in the process chipped off a section, killing it 😒

I don't have a heatgun / hair dryer, but what about baking it in the oven to get the cooler off?

Also. The board has multiplier selections, but no obvious jumpers for 5V / 3V. However there are two voltage regulators and I'm wondering if the jumpers around them select the voltage.

I have a multi-meter, so is it possible to measure the voltage at the CPU socket (without a CPU)?

Looking at the socket, it should be a socket 3 (237 pins, no I didn't count them but found socket images on Wikipedia showing the difference between socket 2 and 3).

Is it possible that the board can detects what CPU it is and set the correct voltage?

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Reply 1 of 3, by Mau1wurf1977

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It's alive

😁

So it turns out the socket is indeed a socket 3. But I couldn't find any voltage jumpers, though after some more searching on the net, there is indeed a way of auto setting the voltage for certain boards.

I came accross some old threads on VOGONS (seriously what ISN'T on VOGONS), which linked to this fantastic resource:

http://web.inter.nl.net/hcc/J.Steunebrink/amd5x86.htm

It shows a simple test for checking if the board auto sets the voltage. And it does! 😀

I tested with VOLDET grounded and floating and the Voltage did indeed change from 3.44V to 5.01V confirming that I can use these lower voltage CPUs in my Acer.

So I inserted an AMD 133 and although the POST screen thinks it's a DX-2 (I believe the 2x multi is 4x with the AMD), the CHKCPU utility identifies it as a DX4 with the correct clock speed.

I set the FSB to 25MHz and later to 33MHz and ran some tests and took pictures. I haven't got a cooler that fits, just one for Pentium sized coolers, so I just placed it loosely on-top.

One thing about this machine: It has no L2 cache (mainboard cache). The sockets are all empty. So keep this in mind regarding the benchmark results. Not sure how much of an impact it has...

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Reply 2 of 3, by Mau1wurf1977

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The Intel DX4 works as well. Gets detected properly and benchmarks similar to the DX4-120

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Reply 3 of 3, by Elia1995

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I have a 486DX4-T100 which gets detected as a DX2 in my Socket 3 Olivetti M4 434S, strange isn't it ? 🤣

Currently assembled vintage computers I own: 11

Most important ones:
A "modded" Olivetti M4 434 S (currently broken).
An Epson El Plus 386DX running MS-DOS 6.22 (currently broken).
Celeron Coppermine 1.10GHz on an M754LMRTP motherboard