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First post, by silentwulf

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Just got a legit SB16 in the mail (CT2230), and I'm trying to get it to work along side with my Gravis PnP in a 486 tower.

Both cards work fine independently. I installed the SB16 first, and everything worked great. Once I popped in the GUS PnP, things started to act a bit funky. I'm unable to complete the Gravis installation (where I test ports/addresses), and now Windows (3.11) only detects the GUS for it's Midi Mapper. However, the speaker is still hooked into the SB16, and it played the Windows *ding* just fine.

Anyone have any tips/steps into getting these two cards to work together?

Reply 1 of 6, by elianda

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Well, I have a similar system running with a CT1740+Waveblaster and GUS PnP. Since you didn't give much detail, some tips:
- be sure to run the EEPROM tool as the very first action to reduce the required resources of the GUS PnP (do a power cycle after change)
- Ignore what the installer reports or tests, write the resources in the ini file manually and test with a player
- remove all the non-needed drivers. SB16 and GUS PnP need no drivers, specifically do not load SBOS.
- first get the GUS PnP running and then try with the SB16, since the SB16 is just semi PnP with SET BLASTER=... and calling diagnose /S.
- get the card working in DOS first, before messing with windows.

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Reply 2 of 6, by Gamecollector

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By the way, Midi Mapper in WfW 3.11 can see only 1 card. So if you need to change the midi card - you must replace midimap.cfg and restart WfW.
By default this file is located in c:\sb16\drv and c:\ultrasnd\windows. Copy to c:\windows\system.

Reply 3 of 6, by silentwulf

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I'll give those steps a try later today.
Not too concerned about Windows using multiple cards. Just wanted to make sure something wasn't royally screwed. Since this machine is used primarily for gaming, I run everything out of DOS.

One thing I did forget to mention, I have a MT-32 hooked into the SoundBlaster 16. Will there be any problems with that, if I have two cards hooked up? I plan to disable all GUS emulation (not that it was ever worth using in the first place)

Reply 5 of 6, by silentwulf

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Both cards are in the system, fresh DOS install. Used EEPROM, and set the addresses.
Still not able to get anything from the Gravis PnP. Did the driver disk installation, and it copied all the files over to the HDD.
As a test, I tried running the port configuration setup, and it just sits there without loading the installer.

Also tried loading Interwave, but keep getting errors about the configuration file.

Does EEPROM write to a configuration file? Is so, where is it, and how do I go about loading it?

Set Blast however, works perfectly fine.
SET BLASTER=A220 I7 D5 T6 P330

Reply 6 of 6, by elianda

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Here my config:

config.sys

[MENU]
MENUCOLOR 11,1
MENUITEM NORM0,H RD fast
MENUITEM NORM1,E default
MENUITEM NORM3,Q RD st
MENUITEM NORM4,Q CD games
MENUITEM NORM5,Q CD RD games st
MENUITEM WIN,WIN31
MENUDEFAULT NORM3,5
menuitem=QN,Q new
 
[NORM0]
SHELL=C:\DOS\COMMAND.COM C:\DOS\ /E:2048 /p
DEVICE=C:\DOS\HIMEM.SYS /VERBOSE
DOS=HIGH,UMB
DEVICE=C:\STACKER\DPMS.EXE
DEVICE=C:\STACKER\STACHIGH.SYS
rem DEVICEHIGH=C:\DOS\ANSI.SYS
REM COUNTRY=49,,\DOS\COUNTRY.SYS
LASTDRIVE=F
FILES=40
BUFFERS=20
STACKS=0,0
 
[WIN]
SHELL=C:\DOS\COMMAND.COM C:\DOS\ /E:2048 /p
DEVICE=C:\DOS\HIMEM.SYS
DEVICE=C:\WINDOWS\SMARTDRV.EXE /DOUBLE_BUFFER
DEVICE=C:\WINDOWS\IFSHLP.SYS
DOS=HIGH,UMB
rem DEVICE=C:\MZTOAK\MZTINIT.SYS /A220 /I5 /D1 /N /G /V7 
DEVICEHIGH=C:\DOS\ANSI.SYS
REM COUNTRY=49,,\DOS\COUNTRY.SYS
FILES=70
BUFFERS=20
STACKS=9,256
DEVICE=C:\ULTRASND\CDINIT.SYS
DEVICEHIGH=C:\DOS\CDROM.SYS /D:CD1
LASTDRIVE=Z
 
[NORM1]
SHELL=C:\DOS\COMMAND.COM C:\DOS\ /E:2048 /p
DEVICE=C:\DOS\HIMEM.SYS /VERBOSE
DEVICE=C:\DOS\EMM386.EXE RAM AUTO
DOS=HIGH,UMB
DEVICEHIGH=C:\STACKER\STACHIGH.SYS
rem DEVICEHIGH=C:\DOS\ANSI.SYS
REM COUNTRY=49,,\DOS\COUNTRY.SYS
FILES=70
BUFFERS=20
STACKS=0,0
LASTDRIVE=F
 
[NORM3]
SHELL=C:\DOS\COMMAND.COM C:\DOS\ /E:2048 /p
SET LOADHIDATA=C:\QEMM9\LOADHI.RF
DEVICE=C:\QEMM9\QEMM386.SYS RAM ROM ST:M RF
DOS=HIGH,UMB
LASTDRIVE=G
rem DEVICE=C:\QEMM9\LOADHI.SYS /RF C:\STACKER\STACKER.COM
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DEVICE=C:\STACKER\DPMS.EXE
DEVICE=C:\QEMM9\LOADHI.SYS /RF C:\STACKER\STACHIGH.SYS
rem DEVICE=C:\STACKER\SSWAP.COM 
DEVICE=C:\QEMM9\LOADHI.SYS /RF C:\DOS\ANSI.SYS
REM COUNTRY=49,,\DOS\COUNTRY.SYS
FILES=70
BUFFERS=20
STACKS=9,256
 
[NORM4]
SHELL=C:\DOS\COMMAND.COM C:\DOS\ /E:2048 /p
SET LOADHIDATA=C:\QEMM9\LOADHI.RF
DEVICE=C:\QEMM9\QEMM386.SYS RAM ROM X=B000-B1FF DMA=128 RF
DOS=HIGH,UMB
DEVICE=C:\STACKER\DPMS.EXE
DEVICE=C:\QEMM9\LOADHI.SYS /RF C:\STACKER\STACHIGH.SYS
rem DEVICE=C:\GRAVIS\ULTRASND\CDINIT.SYS
DEVICE=C:\QEMM9\LOADHI.SYS /RF C:\TOOLS\SLCD.SYS /D:CD1 /B:360 /C /K
DEVICE=C:\QEMM9\LOADHI.SYS /RF C:\DOS\ANSI.SYS
LASTDRIVE=Z
FILES=70
BUFFERS=20
STACKS=0,0
 
[NORM5]
SHELL=C:\DOS\COMMAND.COM C:\DOS\ /E:2048 /p
SET LOADHIDATA=C:\QEMM9\LOADHI.RF
DEVICE=C:\QEMM9\QEMM386.SYS RAM ROM X=B000-B1FF DMA=128 RF ST:M
DOS=HIGH,UMB
DEVICE=C:\STACKER\DPMS.EXE
DEVICE=C:\QEMM9\LOADHI.SYS /RF C:\STACKER\STACHIGH.SYS
rem DEVICE=C:\GRAVIS\ULTRASND\CDINIT.SYS
DEVICE=C:\QEMM9\LOADHI.SYS /RF C:\TOOLS\SLCD.SYS /D:CD1 /B:360 /C /K
DEVICE=C:\QEMM9\LOADHI.SYS /RF C:\DOS\ANSI.SYS
LASTDRIVE=H
FILES=70
BUFFERS=20
STACKS=0,0
 
[QN]
SHELL=C:\QEMM9\LOADHI.COM /RF C:\DOS\COMMAND.COM C:\DOS\ /E:2048 /p
device=c:\qemm9\dosdata.sys
SET LOADHIDATA=C:\QEMM9\LOADHI.RF
DEVICE=C:\QEMM9\QEMM386.SYS RAM ROM ST:M X=B000-B1FF DMA=128 RF
device=c:\qemm9\dos-up.sys @c:\qemm9\dos-up.dat
DOS=HIGH,UMB
DEVICE=C:\STACKER\DPMS.EXE
DEVICE=C:\QEMM9\LOADHI.SYS /RF C:\STACKER\STACHIGH.SYS
rem DEVICE=C:\GRAVIS\ULTRASND\CDINIT.SYS
DEVICE=C:\QEMM9\LOADHI.SYS /RF C:\TOOLS\SLCD.SYS /D:CD1 /B:360 /C /K
DEVICE=C:\QEMM9\LOADHI.SYS /RF C:\DOS\ANSI.SYS
LASTDRIVE=Z
FILES=70
BUFFERS=20
STACKS=0,0

autoexec.bat

@echo off
PATH C:\DOS;c:\nc;c:\gravis\ultrasnd;c:\qemm9;c:\p;c:\tools;c:\b;c:\stacker
PROMPT $E[s$E[1;1H$E[K$E[41;37;1m $P $E[0m$E[1;55H$E[7m $D $E[0m$E[u$G
SET TEMP=c:\TEMP

call sb16.bat
call wbgm.bat
call guspnp.bat
rem T1 SB, T3 SB2, T2 SB Pro, T4 SB Pro2

goto %config%

:NORM1
lh SMARTDRV c+ 4096 512
lh nnansi
ctmouse
c:\tools\xmsdsk\xmsdsk 16384 f: /t /y
goto ende

:NORM0
rem lh nnansi
prompt $p$g
c:\tools\xmsdsk\xmsdsk 16384 f: /t /y
rem C:\DOS\doskey
ctmouse
goto ENDE

:NORM3
c:\qemm9\loadhi /rf smartdrv c+ e+ 5000
rem lh nnansi
c:\qemm9\loadhi /rf c:\dos\KEYB GR,,\dos\KEYBOARD.SYS
rem c:\qemm9\loadhi /rf kdrive
c:\qemm9\loadhi /rf doskey
c:\qemm9\loadhi /rf ctmouse
c:\tools\xmsdsk\xmsdsk 16384 f: /t /y
goto ENDE

:NORM4
c:\qemm9\loadhi /rf C:\DOS\MSCDEX.EXE /D:CD1 /M:10 /E
c:\qemm9\loadhi /rf C:\DOS\smartdrv 
c:\qemm9\loadhi /rf c:\dos\KEYB GR,,\dos\KEYBOARD.SYS
c:\qemm9\loadhi /rf C:\DOS\doskey
c:\qemm9\loadhi /rf ctmouse
goto ENDE

:NORM5
c:\qemm9\loadhi /rf C:\DOS\MSCDEX.EXE /D:CD1 /M:10 /E
c:\qemm9\loadhi /rf C:\DOS\smartdrv 
c:\qemm9\loadhi /rf c:\dos\KEYB GR,,\dos\KEYBOARD.SYS
c:\qemm9\loadhi /rf C:\DOS\doskey
c:\qemm9\loadhi /rf ctmouse
c:\tools\xmsdsk\xmsdsk 16384 g: /t /y
goto ENDE

:QN
c:\qemm9\loadhi /rf C:\DOS\MSCDEX.EXE /D:CD1 /M:10 /E
c:\qemm9\loadhi /rf C:\DOS\smartdrv 
c:\qemm9\loadhi /rf c:\dos\KEYB GR,,\dos\KEYBOARD.SYS
c:\qemm9\loadhi /rf C:\DOS\doskey
c:\qemm9\loadhi /rf ctmouse
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c:\qemm9\loadhi /rf c:\tools\xmsdsk\xmsdsk 16384 g: /t /y
goto ENDE

:ende
nc

sb16.bat

SET BLASTER=A220 I5 D1 H5 P330 T6
SET SOUND=C:\SB16
c:\sb16\diagnose /S
c:\sb16\mixerset /P /Q

wbgm.bat

c:\waveblst\wbpanel\wbmode.exe /r

guspnp.bat

@echo off
echo [1] Utopia 8 MB Soundfont
echo [2] Pro Pats Lite 1.50 Soundfont
echo [3] GUS Original Soundfont
echo [4] AMD 4 MB RAM Soundfont
echo [5] AMD 1 MB ROM Soundfont
echo [6] All / Windows (Utopia is default)
choice /C123456 /T4,5 Your choice?
if errorlevel 255 goto error
if errorlevel 6 goto alles
if errorlevel 5 goto romset
if errorlevel 4 goto ramset
if errorlevel 3 goto gusorig
if errorlevel 2 goto propats
if errorlevel 1 goto utopia

:alles
copy /B c:\gravis\ultrasnd\settings\windows.ini c:\gravis\ultrasnd\iw.ini
goto ende

:utopia
copy /B c:\gravis\ultrasnd\settings\utopia.ini c:\gravis\ultrasnd\iw.ini
goto ende

:propats
copy /B c:\gravis\ultrasnd\settings\propats.ini c:\gravis\ultrasnd\iw.ini
goto ende

:gusorig
copy /B c:\gravis\ultrasnd\settings\original.ini c:\gravis\ultrasnd\iw.ini
goto ende

:ramset
copy /B c:\gravis\ultrasnd\settings\amd_4m.ini c:\gravis\ultrasnd\iw.ini
goto ende

:romset
copy /B c:\gravis\ultrasnd\settings\rom_1m.ini c:\gravis\ultrasnd\iw.ini
goto ende

:ende
SET ULTRADIR=C:\GRAVIS\ULTRASND
SET INTERWAVE=C:\GRAVIS\ULTRASND\IW.INI
SET IWDIR=C:\GRAVIS\ULTRASND
SET ULTRASND=240,7,6,7,7
SET ULTRA16=34C,6,7,1,0
iwinit -legacy

iw.ini mit Auswahl mehrerer Soundfonts (bei der Auswahl oben ist in der jeweiligen ini nur einer)

[languages]
english=English, C:\GRAVIS\ULTRASND\LANGUAGE\ENGLISH
default=english

[mixer settings]
SaveOnWindowsExit=true
init=iw8a1,4,0,60,0,61,0,62,0,63,0,5,0,9,0,0,10,0,0,83,0,12,36,14,0,15,1,16,1,17,0,18,1,19,0,20,127,127,21,-3,-3,22,-3,-3,23,0,0,24,-3,-3,25,-9,27,1,28,0,80,0,81,0,82,0,32,127,127,33,127,127,34,127,127,35,41,43,63,45,0,46,0,47,0,48,0,!,31
default=init
AlwaysOnTop=false
FullView=true

[patch descriptions]
utopia_economy_full_stereo=Utopia full stereo(8)
rom_amd_1m=1M ROM Patch Set
propats=Pro Pats Lite 1.50 Patch Set
grav_org=Original UltraSound Patch Set
amd_4m=4M RAM Patch Set

[vendors]
utopia_economy_full_stereo=u8_im.fff, u8_is.fff, utop_ds.fff
rom_amd_1m=ROMAMDGM_1_1_
propats=propats.fff
grav_org=default.fff
amd_4m=gsfull4m.fff
default=utopia_economy_full_stereo

[vendor utopia_economy_full_stereo]
u8_im.fff=C:\gravis\sfonts
u8_is.fff=C:\gravis\sfonts
utop_ds.fff=C:\gravis\sfonts

[vendor propats]
propats.fff=C:\gravis\sfonts

[vendor grav_org]
default.fff=C:\gravis\sfonts

[vendor amd_4m]
gsfull4m.fff=C:\gravis\sfonts

[patch editor]
patch_editor_dir=

[iwsbos]
library512=
library1024=
memcfg=RAM
SbosVector=7e
Mpu401Emulation=on
quiet=off

[windows]
apm=off
vxd_id=38DA
MaxWaveClients=1
midi_out_synchronous=false

[midi]
layer_atten_adjust=-8

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[sndvol32]
UseInterwaveMixer=1

[setup 0]
mode=pnp
GPusage=IRQ
revision=B0
csn=1
pnprdp=213
UseDma=true
SynthBase=240
CodecBase=34c
AdLibBase=0
GamePort=201
ATAPIBase=0
DMA1=7
DMA2=6
IRQ1=7
IRQ2=7
CDBase=0
CDIRQ=0
CDDMA=4
SBIRQ=0
SBDMA=1
MpuBase=300
MPUIRQ=0
vendor_id=GRV0001
effects=on
winrdp=277
dosrdp=213
config=0
ptelar=0

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