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First post, by Stojke

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I have been searching for and PSU with AUX P4 out for quite some time. This week i managed to find such a PSU on the flea market for the usual 5$-10$ price. 🤣

The first one is an Enermax EG365AX-VE and the second one is LiteON PS-5551-1F (accidentally bought it, thought the extra connector was AUX, didn't even notice it wasn't, now i feel very very dumb).
Both do not work/want to start.

Enermax PSU has suffered internal damage. An resistor has, from my conclusion, lit up so hot the resistor cracked and you can see the metal parts. It has melted the plastic part of an transformer next to it and it seems that the high wattage resistor has also taken a hit.
The PSU of course doesn't work. But i think i can fix it.
Kinda sucks because the person who sold it to me said its functional and that it would replace it if it was not. Ive never seen the person again since.

The LiteON PSU has no damage internally.
When i connect it to my Abit BP6 and press the power button, the PSU starts up, coolers start spinning on the board, and than the PSU cuts off power and shuts down. Wont accept wake up call any more.
When i remove the cable and put it back it, same thing, starts the first time than stops.

Does any one know what could cause the LiteON PSU to stop like that? It is really good, it has around 4kg (from feel), it would be a damn shame to let it go to waste.
And if any one has any documentation on it, it would be greatly appreciated.

Also, what is the specification on the AUX connector? What voltage and Amperage is present?

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Here are some pictures, LiteON PS-5551-1F:

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/54462712/ … SU/SDC12478.JPG
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/54462712/ … SU/SDC12479.JPG
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/54462712/ … SU/SDC12480.JPG
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/54462712/ … SU/SDC12481.JPG
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/54462712/ … SU/SDC12482.JPG
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/54462712/ … SU/SDC12483.JPG

I am not sure if anything is damaged, i think its more due to those components getting hotter and dust collecting there more frequently due to that. All of it can be cleaned and the material isn't burned.
Components are also 100% OK from visual inspection. And the PSU, aside from dust on the sides, is almost dust free and looks like new.

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Reply 1 of 8, by JaNoZ

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Hey i have that same supply.
Very long cables, but not so beefy in specs as a 360w should be.

Did you load it up enough?
Also are there no tiny solder cracks, like a curly ring inside the solder?, also no leaky or bulged capacitors dc filter.
If you blow it with a heardryer straight on the components for some minutes until the whole thing is really hot, does it still do the same?

Maybe the filter caps are bad, and it detects and overvoltage on the feedback to the regulator, or some of those power resistors are bad, and it automatically shuts down to prevent damage.

Reply 2 of 8, by Stojke

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If you are talking about PS-5551-1F (560W)

Everything seems perfectly OK.
The only noticeable thing is black dust from components that heat up when in use.
I hear click sound when i flip the switch, another click when the PSU starts from the button, than another click after 2 seconds the PSU shuts down.

When i jump it alone with only multimeter the PSU works with out stopping. Voltages are all OK.
As soon as i add devices, such as CD ROM and HDD to it to test it it shuts down.

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Reply 3 of 8, by JaNoZ

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I would blow away the dust with compressed air and afterwards clean it up with alcohol.
Then i would resolder all the suspect bad solder pads, especially the ones with much weight on them like the fet's and the diode's attached to the heatsinks, also would replace the filter capacitors on the 3.3v, 5v and the 12v lines with brand low esr ones.
After this you most likely would have a working psu.

Also might be a case that there is VR pot meters for adjusting the output voltages and they corroded a bit and changed in resistance, this could cause an undervoltage at the output at load, maybe this causes a shutdown.
I would read their resistance, drench them in alcohol, wiggle their settings and reset to their original position with resistance the same as before.
then ad a fdd or cdrom and check the 5v and 12v if they drop under 4,5v or 11v i would adjust their settings and add afterwards two extra cdrom drives, and recheck.
Sometimes several psu do start with 11.5 and with more load they up to 12.2 or more, so be carefull and test while adding load.
Also some psu's tend to overvoltage at almost no load, so attaching only a hdd can cause its death.
CDrom drives several 4 or such would be enough for such load test and they do not die easily, hdd's do when the 12v is too high the servo motor ic can burnout.

Reply 4 of 8, by Stojke

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As for dust and bad solder, its dust free and no solder joint seems to show any kind of deficiency.
I will check for pot meters.

Also i tried it with 4 CD ROMs and an HDD when i wrote it shuts down. Seems that when a high load is on the PSU it shuts down.

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Reply 5 of 8, by JaNoZ

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check the 12v rail voltage when you load it too much.
Also pic of the top of the pcb please, especially the part with the 5 or 6 capacitors near all the power cable.

Reply 6 of 8, by JaNoZ

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I helped my co-worker with an psu atx200w it had same symptoms.
When run with certain load the thing shutted down.
We tested the esr of everal teapo capacitors and they were in the 10 to 15 ohms range very bad for 2200uf caps.

Try with blowdryer and heatup and see if it lasts a bit longer then change the caps.

Reply 7 of 8, by Stojke

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Well, thing is, there is no cold solder 😒
Every thing IS perfectly soldered.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/y9a6sshhrll38mc/SDC12499.JPG
https://www.dropbox.com/s/h1ar6wi8v9n6cqv/SDC12500.JPG
https://www.dropbox.com/s/1ihisq3sfgf058q/SDC12501.JPG
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ko9n4wbv50zmh8o/SDC12507.JPG

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Reply 8 of 8, by JaNoZ

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The thing is not really about cold solder but failing filtering capacitors.
They seem to look rather ok, some plastic is shrunk a lil by heat.so they already endured some power hours.
The can have internal increased esr value and causes to behave badly at filtering the pwm dc signals on the 5v, 12 and or 3.3v lines or only one could be bad.

When there is enough load supplied the cannot handle the ripple that would occur and the power gulator would shut down as fail safe.
Heating the capcitors hot can cause them to lower the esr value a little to cause thm behave a little better.
See if you can add one or two extra devices, and it survives.