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First post, by TELVM

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This is an old style mobo, from the times before the 'P4' connector, so all VRM caps are identical 6.3V 1500uF:

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The left pair in particular has to hold a difficult position, surrounded by hostile coils and unsunk mosfets that torment them with the hot iron tortures like they use to do:

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They soldiered on for more than a decade but finally succumbed to the murderous heat, gave up the ghost and bloated:

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A couple healthy Ruby MBZs scrounged from a deceased s478 mobo hold the position provisionally:

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Until a full recap could be done.

- VRM: 7x 'M' (unknown cheap brand) 6.3V 1500uF 10mm ==========> 7x Nichicon HM 6.3V 3300uF 10mm
- Smaller caps: 10x D.S. 6.3V 1000uF 8mm =====================> 10x Panasonic FR 6.3V 1000uF 8mm

t907406_Recap001.png t907407_CapsOriginal001.png t907408_Recap002.png t907410_Recap006.png t907411_Recap007.png

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The preceptive homebrew heatsink for the mosfets (slice from old Athlon XP heatsink 😁 ):

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Finally I thought about replacing the thermal paste under the northbridge heatsink, which surely would be dry and tired after more than a decade. But my worries were unfounded, for ...

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... there was never any thermal paste at all! Con dos cojones 😵 . A pea of Artic Silver 5 and back to its position it went.

Restored 440BX mobo with slocket Tually 1400-S inserted, in fresh combat order for a couple more decades of zombie-crowbarring in Half-Life 😎 :

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Last edited by TELVM on 2013-12-22, 02:50. Edited 1 time in total.

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Reply 3 of 8, by Skyscraper

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That looks great

I should order some new caps.
I have the bad habit of only replacing bloated ones and only with other old used caps.

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Reply 4 of 8, by jwt27

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TELVM wrote:

Finally I thought about replacing the thermal paste under the northbridge heatsink, which surely would be dry and tired after more than a decade. But my worries were unfounded, for ...
... there was never any thermal paste at all! Con dos cojones 😵 . A pea of Artic Silver 5 and back to its position it went.

Ha! I recently discovered that on my MS-6119 board, too. The heatsink surface was also very rough so it was just there for show. Maybe the heatsink is not really necessary after all.

But I polished it a bit an put some toothpaste on anyway.

Reply 5 of 8, by TELVM

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PeterLI wrote:

... Too bad you live in ES: I have a MOBO that needs to be diagnosed/fixed. 😵

You may contact Topcat, the master of Badcaps.net . He's headquartered at US-MO.

Skyscraper wrote:

I should order some new caps ... I have the bad habit of only replacing bloated ones and only with other old used caps.

Yep, any bloated cap means its apparently healthy neighbours must be regarded wit utmost suspicion. Also sometimes visually OK caps are totally FUBAR inside. By replacing only part of the lot we're just briefly delaying a potentially gory outcome.

The 17 fresh top-notch jap caps for this mobo cost me a bankrupting grand total of 8.33€ + VAT.

jwt27 wrote:

... put some toothpaste on anyway.

🤣 Fluoride toothpaste gives the best (if ephemeral) results 😁 .

Australian Vogoners may also try Vegemite (whatever that thing may be 🤣 ).

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Reply 7 of 8, by PeterLI

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TELVM wrote:

You may contact Topcat, the master of Badcaps.net . He's headquartered at US-MO.

Thanks! Although his prices are fair the MOBO is not worth the $85 it would cost. I may have to learn to do it myself or just chuck it. Buying another refurbished one, should I need one, would be cheaper. I also have a HP Brio with a MOBO that has caps that leaked already (or so it appears) but the machine still works 100% strangely enough. 😕

Reply 8 of 8, by TELVM

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bestemor wrote:

What is that stuff around the coils ?

Heat shrink tubing. When shrouding inductors, that get blazing hot while under operation (see thermal infrared image above, brrrr), the shrinking is "self-generated" the first time we start the comp 😮 :

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It prevents that torching warmth from being passed by contact to components in close proximity and sensitive to heat, like capacitors.

It also can mitigate potential "coil whining".

PSU makers know the trick well:

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@ PeterLI: I'd lend a hand but I'm at the other side of the pond 😀 .

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