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Re: VOGONS Benchmark archive?

Postby elianda » 2014-1-16 @ 14:44

It is nice to see that somebody from a country that has a fair use law is able to put such archive online.

For the benchmarks it would be necessary to give default settings for later comparison. Those should be chosen accordingly, that it runs also on a lower end system.
f.e. for FractInt, are you sure that this 2K resolution rendering would work on let's say a 2 MB 386.
For such cases maybe even a low end setting and a high end setting should be given.
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Re: VOGONS Benchmark archive?

Postby Mau1wurf1977 » 2014-1-16 @ 14:48

What's a good HDD benchmark for Windows 95/98? The question of storage pops up all the time...

Also if there is a service pack / patch pack that you Windows guys always use, we could include that as well. To have a common base so to speak.
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Re: VOGONS Benchmark archive?

Postby NitroX infinity » 2014-1-16 @ 14:52

Include a text file with web-addresses to where they can download drivers. Wouldn't take up much space and very helpfull.

And one big zip file? You'd end up with a file that could be several gigabytes large. Especially if you include game-demos.
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Re: VOGONS Benchmark archive?

Postby Skyscraper » 2014-1-16 @ 14:56

Mau1wurf1977 wrote:What's a good HDD benchmark for Windows 95/98? The question of storage pops up all the time...

Also if there is a service pack / patch pack that you Windows guys always use, we could include that as well. To have a common base so to speak.


PCmark 2002 is what I use to check HDD performance in Windows 98.
There are probably better choices.

I use Windows 98SE without updates.
The only thing I add is USB storage support.
I also install Direct X 8.1 if it is a fast Windows 98 system.
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Re: VOGONS Benchmark archive?

Postby vetz » 2014-1-16 @ 14:59

NitroX infinity wrote:Include a text file with web-addresses to where they can download drivers. Wouldn't take up much space and very helpfull.

And one big zip file? You'd end up with a file that could be several gigabytes large. Especially if you include game-demos.


You think of driver collections like found on falconfly.de for 3DFX drivers?
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While no collection of every driver version, http://www.vintage3d.org/driver.php have drivers for all the early 3D cards.
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Re: VOGONS Benchmark archive?

Postby NitroX infinity » 2014-1-16 @ 15:11

Basicly, anywhere where you can find a lot of drivers. Official manufacturer websites too like;

http://www.s3graphics.com/en/drivers/le ... chive.aspx
http://www.matrox.com/graphics/en/suppo ... rs/latest/
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Re: VOGONS Benchmark archive?

Postby Mau1wurf1977 » 2014-1-16 @ 15:45

Ok I have started testing stuff.

Disk Speed 32: http://software.vgrin.host56.com/diskspeed32/

Works fine under W98SE.

Skyscraper wrote:The only thing I add is USB storage support.
I also install Direct X 8.1 if it is a fast Windows 98 system.


Could you point me to downloads please? Having USB storage would make it a lot easier :)
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Re: VOGONS Benchmark archive?

Postby jwt27 » 2014-1-16 @ 16:24

elianda wrote:f.e. for FractInt, are you sure that this 2K resolution rendering would work on let's say a 2 MB 386.
For such cases maybe even a low end setting and a high end setting should be given.


2048x1536 requires 3MB so that wouldn't work on such a system. OTOH it's not hard to make a 640x480 fractal that takes 5 minutes to render on a P2. I think you'd want to make it take at least a minute or so on fast systems, to limit quantization errors / variance (or whatever it's called). But then the same preset could take like an hour to render on 386. Making two or three presets for a different range of systems might be a good idea then... But that means you can't directly compare them anymore.

And I just thought, since fractint is available for multiple operating systems, this could also be used to measure performance difference between OS's on the same system.
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Re: VOGONS Benchmark archive?

Postby Mau1wurf1977 » 2014-1-16 @ 16:33

How about we share the pain and everyone tests and adds one benchmark at a time?

Basically test it under W98, if it works grab a screenshot, write a little bit about it and attach a ZIP.

I'll start with Drive Speed 32: Measures disk reading speed and plots a graph.

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Re: VOGONS Benchmark archive?

Postby Mau1wurf1977 » 2014-1-16 @ 16:40

Roadkil's Disk Speed

Tests disk performance under various conditions.

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Re: VOGONS Benchmark archive?

Postby Skyscraper » 2014-1-16 @ 16:44

Mau1wurf1977 wrote:Could you point me to downloads please? Having USB storage would make it a lot easier :)


http://www.technical-assistance.co.uk/kb/usbmsd98.php
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Re: VOGONS Benchmark archive?

Postby NitroX infinity » 2014-1-16 @ 17:26

May I suggest you use ultra compression with 7z instead of zip. Will save a lot of space. Unless 7z isn't available for DOS, in which case rar might be the better choice.
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Re: VOGONS Benchmark archive?

Postby Mau1wurf1977 » 2014-1-16 @ 17:30

Geeez don't you live in the land of super broadband :lol:

I live in the bush and it's not an issue :happy:

7z is another tool someone needs to install and garble up their machine.
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Re: VOGONS Benchmark archive?

Postby NitroX infinity » 2014-1-16 @ 17:42

7z might be another tool, but so is zip (or rar).
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Re: VOGONS Benchmark archive?

Postby Mau1wurf1977 » 2014-1-16 @ 18:02



Ok that one complains that a new version of Windows is needed.
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Re: VOGONS Benchmark archive?

Postby Mau1wurf1977 » 2014-1-16 @ 18:20

Windows 98 benching is fun! I had no idea :blush:

Tested and added the following to the archive.

I will upload version 1.0 soon!

7-Zip

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DX 8.1

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3DMark 99 MAX

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3DMark 2000

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3DMark 2001 SE

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PCMark 2002

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SISoft Sandra 99

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Re: VOGONS Benchmark archive?

Postby Mau1wurf1977 » 2014-1-16 @ 18:55

And that's it for tonight!

I will update the first post with download links.

If someone wants to help out and type up a readme / file list, that would be awesome :)

NitroX infinity wrote:May I suggest you use ultra compression with 7z instead of zip. Will save a lot of space. Unless 7z isn't available for DOS, in which case rar might be the better choice.


I've used 7 Zip at Ultra and created a self-extracting archive. Happy? :lol:

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WinTune 98

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3D WinBench 2000

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Crystal CPU ID

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Everest

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Crystal Mark 2004 OpelGL Part

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Re: VOGONS Benchmark archive?

Postby 5u3 » 2014-1-16 @ 19:09

Did you know there was a Direct3D version of PCPbench? It's very old (1997) and probably not very useful, but since it seems to have vanished from the net, here it is:

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Re: VOGONS Benchmark archive?

Postby Mau1wurf1977 » 2014-1-16 @ 19:12

Nice! Definitely will get added.

Version 1.0 of the archive is uploading (200 MB) and I'm going to bed :dead:

I'll add it with the, hopefully heaps of other benchmarks, tomorrow :lol:
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Re: VOGONS Benchmark archive?

Postby leileilol » 2014-1-16 @ 19:18

vetz wrote:MDK2 also got one

The demo has the benchmark too and the filesize can be greatly be dropped to around 35mb leaving in just the one song used for that particular level. The demo also has a patch :)
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