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First post, by Stojke

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What versions of MT32 are there? (I saw some special modded ones) And how can i tell them apart?

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Reply 6 of 30, by keropi

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mauwurf has a video with some games that only sound correctly with a rev1 MT-32 , some sierra games IIRC so if you are into them then it's a no-brainer really

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Reply 7 of 30, by Stojke

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Well, since its the ONLY MT32 i found where i live, and for a nice price of 25 euro as well, i guess i can't complain much 😀
The seller will give me power adapter as well.

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Reply 8 of 30, by Mau1wurf1977

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There are quite a few differences, but for games you really want the MT-32 (Old).

A lot of Sierra and Dynamix games created custom sounds that sound wrong on the MT-32 (New).

The MT-32 (New) has less noise and therefore will sound a bit different. It also works with games that send MIDI data too fast, but it doesn't have 33 extra sound effects of the CM series and LAPC-I.

IMO the MT-32 (Old) you are looking at is the better buy. Later you can add a CM-32L and then you are set.

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Reply 9 of 30, by Stojke

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It arrived today. I change my mind and ordered from another person (wow two MT32 for sale!) and the serial number is 824951 the very first version type 😀
It says 105 on ROM chips sticker.

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Reply 11 of 30, by noshutdown

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i had one mt32(old) but i rarely use it. its not really GM compatible so it doesn't play midi files right, all that can work with it are dos games, and i have only one motherboard(bx) with isa slot that allows dos games to run with sound.

Reply 13 of 30, by vetz

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Reply 14 of 30, by sliderider

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PeterLI wrote:
MK1: original MT-32. Most common: very many made. Extremely common in the US and pretty cheap. No large / mini headphone jack. R […]
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MK1: original MT-32. Most common: very many made. Extremely common in the US and pretty cheap. No large / mini headphone jack. Roland issue.
MK2: revised MT-32. Rare. Mini headphone jack. Roland issue.
Modifed: very rare. No idea: never had one. Not Roland issue.

More info: http://www.economypoint.org/r/roland-mt-32.html

From the MT-32 wiki entry.

"Sound quality problems

Given the MT-32 was intended to be a relatively low-cost prosumer product, many corners were cut in the design of its DAC output. For example the circuitry needed to properly calibrate the DACs was omitted, resulting in distortion of the analog signal.

Despite having the capabilities of a professional synth module, the noisy output of the MT-32 caused it to be generally considered unsuitable for professional studio use, however an aftermarket modification was available from Real World Interfaces to improve the MT-32's sound quality and generally increase its suitability for professional use."

So modded MT-32's would most likely have this mod for cleaning up the signal. I've seen them with and without this mod for sale with no appreciable difference in price despite the modded ones being harder to find.

Reply 18 of 30, by Cloudschatze

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The early MT-32 units lack the VCA found in the later units, so the analog output stage is "stuck" at a fixed amplification level. Ignoring the other noise-related issues, you really don't need to be an audiophile to hear the resulting, ever-present hiss.

This applies to the Ad Lib MSC as well, if anyone cares.