vetz wrote:

Hardware: Pentium Overdrive 83@100mhz ASUS VL/I-486SV2GX4 Rev. 2.0 32MB RAM (FPM) 1024kb L2 cache Samsung IDE harddrive […]
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Hardware:
Pentium Overdrive 83@100mhz
ASUS VL/I-486SV2GX4 Rev. 2.0
32MB RAM (FPM)
1024kb L2 cache
Samsung IDE harddrive

ET4000/W32P 1MB
3DBench2: 95,8
PCPBench: 28 FPS
Doom: 1327 realticks
Quake: 23,6 FPS

ET4000/W32P 2MB
3DBench2: 95,8
PCPBench: 28 FPS
Doom: 1316 realticks
Quake: 23,6 FPS

Hi,
I (finally) did the same kind of test, but don't reach exactly the same conclusion.

Hardware:
IntelDX4@100mhz WT
Shuttle HOT419 DZ/R2
32MB RAM (FPM)
256kb L2 cache
Tekram DC680-T controlled HDD

ET4000/W32P 1MB 45ns
3DBench2: 70.5
PCPBench: 18.4
Doom: 41.59
Quake: 10.1

ET4000/W32P 2MB 60ns
3DBench2: 71.6
PCPBench: 18.4
Doom: 41.91
Quake: 10.1

There is more difference. Not that it is visible to the naked eye, but definitely more.
Maybe I should try my 60ns ET4k with only 1MB to see if the difference comes from the card and not the VRAM ?

Actually your results just prove my conclusion even more. I was out to get the myth that memory interleaving on the ET4000/W32P was a major performance boost. I won't call 0,4 (less than 1%) extra FPS in Doom a huge performance boost. My W32P use 45NS memory in both tests btw.

vetz wrote:

Actually your results just prove my conclusion even more. I was out to get the myth that memory interleaving on the ET4000/W32P was a major performance boost. I won't call 0,4 (less than 1%) extra FPS in Doom a huge performance boost. My W32P use 45NS memory in both tests btw.

That's certainly not major, but in 3DBench it's not null 😉

Does testing Doom at low details and smallest window size change the results?

Mau1wurf1977 wrote:

Does testing Doom at low details and smallest window size change the results?

Do you mean does a difference between the cards appear ?
I'll tell you this evening (french evening :p)

Mau1wurf1977 wrote:

Does testing Doom at low details and smallest window size change the results?

answer is no :

Doom min ET4k 2mb 60ns : 625RT (119.5)
Doom min ET4k 1mb 45ns : 633RT (117.99)

did you make that Cyrix 5x86 case badge?

soviet conscript wrote:

did you make that Cyrix 5x86 case badge?

Yep. Made all of them!

Just wanted to say thanks Artex for the scan of the Asus VL/I-486SV2GX4 manual, I've been looking for the real thing for a couple of years and your soft copy is probably as close as I'll get.

Using the information in this thread I've managed to get my Asus VL/I-486SV2GX4 rev 2.1 board humming along with a Am586 PR75 in write back mode, yay. I can't quite reproduce your benchmark results because of the VGA cards I have at my disposal (my Ark Logic comes closest), but it's still an awesome 486.

I've noticed that - despite the board being jumpered for the PR75 - that a 486DX 33 will be detected correctly and seemingly work as expected. This might come in is handy for speed sensitive games like Ultima 7, etc.

That's what this community is all about! You're welcome and I'm glad I could help you out.

vetz wrote:

Actually your results just prove my conclusion even more. I was out to get the myth that memory interleaving on the ET4000/W32P was a major performance boost. I won't call 0,4 (less than 1%) extra FPS in Doom a huge performance boost. My W32P use 45NS memory in both tests btw.

Try to test it in Windows with Winbench 3.11 and Wintach.

kixs wrote:

Try to test it in Windows with Winbench 3.11 and Wintach.

From what I've read of old Windows benchmarks from PC Magazine the S3 should be faster in Windows as it was marketed towards the desktop crowd more than the gamer. The ET4000 was more a cheap man solution with good VGA performance and OK Windows performance.

But ofc I can bench when I get the possibility.

Artex wrote:

Since I added two more socket 3-based systems to the mix, I created a few more case badges (all attached) for those that would l […]
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Since I added two more socket 3-based systems to the mix, I created a few more case badges (all attached) for those that would like them..

could you do this for the AMD 5x86 and Cyrix 5x86 stickers, there pretty cool and I think I'd like to use them on a few machines as well.

soviet conscript wrote:

Artex wrote:

Since I added two more socket 3-based systems to the mix, I created a few more case badges (all attached) for those that would l […]
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Since I added two more socket 3-based systems to the mix, I created a few more case badges (all attached) for those that would like them..

could you do this for the AMD 5x86 and Cyrix 5x86 stickers, there pretty cool and I think I'd like to use them on a few machines as well.

Updated .ZIP file attached for you.

thanks!

Artex wrote:

I took a break from that pain-in-the-ass SP3G board and threw the AMD X5-133 into my second SV2GX4 board (Rev 2.0). I basically modified build #2, swapping the Intel DX4-100 Write-Back with this processor. L2 Cache is set to AUTO in the BIOS and L1 cache is set to WB mode with a jumper.

Build 2:
Asus VL/I-486SV2GX4 Rev. 2.0 running latest available BIOS (0402.001 BETA BIOS from 1999)

i thought i read that the bios is not flashable in the gx4?

chrisNova777 wrote:

Artex wrote:

I took a break from that pain-in-the-ass SP3G board and threw the AMD X5-133 into my second SV2GX4 board (Rev 2.0). I basically modified build #2, swapping the Intel DX4-100 Write-Back with this processor. L2 Cache is set to AUTO in the BIOS and L1 cache is set to WB mode with a jumper.

Build 2:
Asus VL/I-486SV2GX4 Rev. 2.0 running latest available BIOS (0402.001 BETA BIOS from 1999)

i thought i read that the bios is not flashable in the gx4?

Correct - Keropi gave me an eeprom flashed with it.

is that a neccessity for makign the ps2 mouse work?
my VL/I486SV2GX4 board is a rev 2.1

chrisNova777 wrote:

is that a neccessity for makign the ps2 mouse work?
my VL/I486SV2GX4 board is a rev 2.1

Nope, I don't believe so. The board worked just fine with the PS2 mouse prior to the upgraded bios.

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