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rom / bios needed for ati mach64 vlb

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First post, by luckybob

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If you are reading this message, I am looking to get a working copy of the bios from an ATI mach64 VLB video card. PN 109-30100-00 "winturbo"

The card I have will not post in 2 different systems, but has in the past. When I use a post code rader, I get the same errors on both boards. Both boards fail to post at "initialize video rom". Or something to that effect.

Therefore, someway, somehow the eprom I have is faulty or the data contained inside is. I did pop the chip in my reader, and it does read. But this is the only part that i can understand:
1995/3/16 10:51
ATI MACH64, VLB BIOS P/N 113-27803-102
(C) 1988-95, ATI Technologies Inc.BK3.5/1.015MACH64GXVLBUN

I spent several hours combing google and I came up with nothing. If you happen to have a copy of this file (or never) I would be greatly appreciative to get a copy. Thanks!

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Reply 1 of 21, by Anonymous Coward

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Did you find a copy? I can probably dump the ROMs on one or both of my cards.

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Reply 2 of 21, by luckybob

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not yet. While you have everything out on the workbench, if you also happen to have the rom for the ISA mach64 that would be great. The one I have has 2 roms (hi/lo) and there is physical damage to the eprom. The card doesn't post, so i'm thinking if I can source a replacement for that card as well, I would be very appreciative.

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Reply 3 of 21, by Anonymous Coward

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Okay, I have some time after work today so I'll do my best to take care of it (assuming that I can actually get my system to boot with all these cards). My only remaining true VLB system uses a picky SiS 406/411 chipset.

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Reply 4 of 21, by Anonymous Coward

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Here you go. Let me know how this works out for you. I have an ET4000W32P VLB card that is showing the same behaviour, and I suspect a bad ROM.

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    Mach64 ISA VRAM.BIN.zip
    File size
    19.63 KiB
    Downloads
    70 downloads
    File license
    Fair use/fair dealing exception
  • Filename
    Mach64 VLB VRAM.BIN.zip
    File size
    19.98 KiB
    Downloads
    67 downloads
    File comment
    Dumped from Graphics Pro Turbo VLB (VRAM)
    File license
    Fair use/fair dealing exception
  • Filename
    Mach64 VLB DRAM.BIN.zip
    File size
    19.43 KiB
    Downloads
    61 downloads
    File comment
    Dumped from Mach64 VLB card (DRAM version)
    File license
    Fair use/fair dealing exception

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Reply 5 of 21, by sliderider

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Anonymous Coward wrote:

Here you go. Let me know how this works out for you. I have an ET4000W32P VLB card that is showing the same behaviour, and I suspect a bad ROM.

Would you happen to have a Mach32 VLB you could dump the ROMs from? One of mine stopped booting recently. Not sure what the problem is. It was working not long ago in the same motherboard and another Mach32 VLB card works in it, so it's not a motherboard issue.

Reply 6 of 21, by Anonymous Coward

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I do have a Mach32 VLB. However, you should be aware that there are more ISA and VLB versions of Mach32 than Mach64. My two VLB cards are the full retail VRAM versions. There are also premium and cost reduced DRAM models, as well as several OEM specific models which usually have lower quality RAMDACs. I'm not sure how interchangable the BIOS image is. I'll dump it for you after I get home. I'll put the ISA version up too while I'm at it.

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Reply 7 of 21, by luckybob

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We have a driver database, why can't we get some sort of bios/rom database as well?

Also, AC I love you. I don't know if these are going to work yet, but I wanted to say thanks for trying.

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Reply 8 of 21, by Anonymous Coward

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If somebody wants to provide the server space, I will dump every ROM I can.

By the way, here is the image for Mach32. Typo in ROM content description. Should read ATi Mach32 Graphics Ultra Pro ISA

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Reply 9 of 21, by vetz

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Anonymous Coward wrote:

If somebody wants to provide the server space, I will dump every ROM I can.

Vogonsdrivers.com 😀

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Reply 10 of 21, by Anonymous Coward

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Make a subfolder for graphics card BIOS images please.

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Reply 11 of 21, by Robin4

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luckybob wrote:

We have a driver database, why can't we get some sort of bios/rom database as well?

Also, AC I love you. I don't know if these are going to work yet, but I wanted to say thanks for trying.

I thought about the same..

I know someone from vintage computers have a rom site.. zerominusdegrees
I have helped him with the come by for more roms..

But i have plenty cards here to dump the rom from..
I will do later if i have my retro machines running.

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If somebody wants to provide the server space, I will dump every ROM I can.

Vogonsdrivers.com 😀

I dont know if it get to expensive but maybe vogonsroms.com ? 🤣

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Reply 12 of 21, by sliderider

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luckybob wrote:

We have a driver database, why can't we get some sort of bios/rom database as well?

Also, AC I love you. I don't know if these are going to work yet, but I wanted to say thanks for trying.

I think maybe because manufacturers treat ROM dumps differently from drivers. They release the drivers to the public freely,not so much the ROMs. That was the reason why so many Apple II clone manufacturers were put out of business, for copying Apple's proprietary ROMs.

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sliderider wrote:

I think maybe because manufacturers treat ROM dumps differently from drivers. They release the drivers to the public freely,not so much the ROMs. That was the reason why so many Apple II clone manufacturers were put out of business, for copying Apple's proprietary ROMs.

If it was up to you nothing would ever be around any longer. A company goes bust, bye bye all other hosting of manuals, drivers, roms, SDK's, documentation of old hardware/software on mirrors. You can't seriously compare cloning of newly released products like the Apple II case to dumping ROMs for 20 year old graphic cards. 🤣

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Reply 14 of 21, by luckybob

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Becides, we are talking about the care and restoration of vintage hardware. I highly doubt any of us have the desire, let alone skill to clone a computer.

For the record, I asked ati (now amd) for a replacement bios, it took 3 days of emails just to get them to acknowledge the mach64's existence. Their eyes just glossed over when I explained what I wanted.

*sigh*

Danny kids these days. ..

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Reply 15 of 21, by Stiletto

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vlask and company and their "VGA Legacy" website (http://www.vgamuseum.info) host firmware dumps for many vintage graphics cards, although they are quick to point out that they're dumped by utility to hard drive, and not by ROM programmer.

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Reply 16 of 21, by Anonymous Coward

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Mine are also dumped by utility. I use PCjrCart

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Reply 17 of 21, by 386_junkie

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If someone has handy the ROM for Number Nine's; - GXE 64 Pro... Vision 964, that would be awesome! 😀

Bought it... which was DOA! So far have yet to try the oven... but it has crossed my mind!

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Reply 18 of 21, by Jarvik7

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Anonymous Coward wrote:

If somebody wants to provide the server space, I will dump every ROM I can.

By the way, here is the image for Mach32. Typo in ROM content description. Should read ATi Mach32 Graphics Ultra Pro ISA

MESSDEV is probably interested in that.

Reply 19 of 21, by Stiletto

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Jarvik7 wrote:
Anonymous Coward wrote:

If somebody wants to provide the server space, I will dump every ROM I can.

By the way, here is the image for Mach32. Typo in ROM content description. Should read ATi Mach32 Graphics Ultra Pro ISA

MESSDEV is probably interested in that.

On it. We've a partial backup of "VGA Legacy" from a few years' ago already, but they're not in the source yet. 😉

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