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Reply 25080 of 27649, by Ensign Nemo

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gmaverick2k wrote on 2023-08-28, 19:04:

Does anyone know where I can dump images of the reload cd and the recovery diskette?

I'd assume that the Internet Archive would work: https://archive.org/

It's where I usually look for old software.

Reply 25081 of 27649, by debs3759

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gmaverick2k wrote on 2023-08-28, 19:04:

Does anyone know where I can dump images of the reload cd and the recovery diskette?

http://www.vogonsdrivers.com/ works as well. It's worth uploading to both. I personally don't always find things easily on archive.org

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Reply 25082 of 27649, by gmaverick2k

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debs3759 wrote on 2023-08-28, 21:17:
gmaverick2k wrote on 2023-08-28, 19:04:

Does anyone know where I can dump images of the reload cd and the recovery diskette?

http://www.vogonsdrivers.com/ works as well. It's worth uploading to both. I personally don't always find things easily on archive.org

Thanks I will try this. Archive.org can't search for what I've uploaded.
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Reply 25083 of 27649, by Ensign Nemo

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debs3759 wrote on 2023-08-28, 21:17:
gmaverick2k wrote on 2023-08-28, 19:04:

Does anyone know where I can dump images of the reload cd and the recovery diskette?

http://www.vogonsdrivers.com/ works as well. It's worth uploading to both. I personally don't always find things easily on archive.org

I love Vogons, but it's always good to have a backup option. The Internet Archive is a mainstream project and should be able to secure funding for awhile. Then again, being more mainstream can have a downside and they could decide to change their policy on hosting certain types of software. Like all types of backups, it helps to have more than one.

Reply 25084 of 27649, by debs3759

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That's why I suggested both 😀 Any site could just disappear at some point, the more copies are on different sites, the better the chance of it still being available in 5 or 10 years 😀

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Reply 25085 of 27649, by Shponglefan

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Re-capped a Gigabyte GA-586ATV motherboard. Also replaced a damaged IDE connector.

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Reply 25086 of 27649, by gmaverick2k

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Ensign Nemo wrote on 2023-08-28, 22:08:
debs3759 wrote on 2023-08-28, 21:17:
gmaverick2k wrote on 2023-08-28, 19:04:

Does anyone know where I can dump images of the reload cd and the recovery diskette?

http://www.vogonsdrivers.com/ works as well. It's worth uploading to both. I personally don't always find things easily on archive.org

I love Vogons, but it's always good to have a backup option. The Internet Archive is a mainstream project and should be able to secure funding for awhile. Then again, being more mainstream can have a downside and they could decide to change their policy on hosting certain types of software. Like all types of backups, it helps to have more than one.

can't login to upload using vogons username/password. cant find link to register either on the vogonsdrivers website..

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Reply 25087 of 27649, by BetaC

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Today I got my Macintosh Clone set back up because the DOS games I was thinking about playing all kind of fell by the wayside as I got back in to a modern game. At the same time, I'm prepping for potentially finding something of note in the next few days, as I will stop by the free geek in the Twin Cities.

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Reply 25088 of 27649, by PD2JK

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Recapped a Medion 9901 board.

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Now that it's working, I might add the ISA slot. But that requires some extra components I guess. Anyone who might know the original MSI (?) board with ISA?

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Reply 25089 of 27649, by PD2JK

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I figured one could mount a Noctua fan like this as well. Surprisingly sturdy.

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Reply 25091 of 27649, by debs3759

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gmaverick2k wrote on 2023-08-29, 06:13:
Ensign Nemo wrote on 2023-08-28, 22:08:
debs3759 wrote on 2023-08-28, 21:17:

http://www.vogonsdrivers.com/ works as well. It's worth uploading to both. I personally don't always find things easily on archive.org

I love Vogons, but it's always good to have a backup option. The Internet Archive is a mainstream project and should be able to secure funding for awhile. Then again, being more mainstream can have a downside and they could decide to change their policy on hosting certain types of software. Like all types of backups, it helps to have more than one.

can't login to upload using vogons username/password. cant find link to register either on the vogonsdrivers website..

You need to message @SquallStrife to set up a login account.

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Reply 25092 of 27649, by Turbo ->

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Shponglefan wrote on 2023-08-29, 00:27:

Re-capped a Gigabyte GA-586ATV motherboard. Also replaced a damaged IDE connector.

You have a nice set of equipment in your workshop. What is the model name of that Panavise PCB holder?

Reply 25093 of 27649, by Shponglefan

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Turbo -> wrote on 2023-08-29, 19:28:
Shponglefan wrote on 2023-08-29, 00:27:

Re-capped a Gigabyte GA-586ATV motherboard. Also replaced a damaged IDE connector.

You have a nice set of equipment in your workshop. What is the model name of that Panavise PCB holder?

Thank you!

The PCB holder itself is the Panavise Model 315 Circuit Board Holder. The base is a combination of the 300 Vise Base and 312 Base Mount.

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Reply 25094 of 27649, by Windows9566

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PD2JK wrote on 2023-08-29, 11:25:
Recapped a Medion 9901 board. […]
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Recapped a Medion 9901 board.

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Now that it's working, I might add the ISA slot. But that requires some extra components I guess. Anyone who might know the original MSI (?) board with ISA?

i need to do the same with my ABit KT7A, it currently does post but there are like 5 bulging Teapo brand capacitors on it and i won't be using it like that.

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Reply 25095 of 27649, by gmaverick2k

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Finally got round to installing windows xp on z87-g45 gaming motherboard I had laying around for over a year. It has a 4770k installed in it. I think I gave up because of ahci issues. Stuck in a spare Asus mini gtx 970. After downloading various copies of xp and slipstreaming ahci drivers I finally cracked it. Long story short look at hardware id and match it with yada yada yada .Finally using ahci for xp, had always used ide mode.
Oh the virtual cd iodd saved a lot of time and sanity. Without it is have given up again can't be assed waiting for it to bsod or burn cd's to be coasters.

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Reply 25096 of 27649, by PcBytes

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Been tinkering with the P6VBX7. Finally got around and got rid of all Canicons off it - as it stands now, it's OST 1000uF 6.3v for the caps, Panasonic FJS 820uF 6.3v nearly everywhere else, aside from a KZG 470uF 16v that went on the ISA line.

Installing Win2k on it. Swapped in a Celeron 533, and if I can find the P6VBX7A BIOS for it, I suppose Coppermine P3s might work too.

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Reply 25097 of 27649, by PcBytes

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Well, I'm back to report I've been hit with both the most fampus and the most weirdest to fix bug on that P6VBX7.

Remember how on Virtualbox you'd encounter a race condition due to a bug in the 2k IDE driver?

Well, my board seems to be the rare case where that happens on a real hardware - setup runs well enough, but exactly a few seconds before you'd get to the components installation part (last two progeess bars - one is for that IIS component, the other is the classic component registering and saving settings) it unexpectedly closes, PC reboots and you're back to the first GUI setup screen for 2k.

Anyone has an idea how I'd tackle this 🤣? On Virtualbox I'd just adjust the delay for the IDE driver but not sure how I'd circumvent this issue on a real mobo, aside from using an Epox 3VCM to install 2k first on and then move it to the LT P6VBX7. (since they both use the same VIA drivers, more or less.)

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Reply 25098 of 27649, by appiah4

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PcBytes wrote on 2023-08-31, 06:47:
Well, I'm back to report I've been hit with both the most fampus and the most weirdest to fix bug on that P6VBX7. […]
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Well, I'm back to report I've been hit with both the most fampus and the most weirdest to fix bug on that P6VBX7.

Remember how on Virtualbox you'd encounter a race condition due to a bug in the 2k IDE driver?

Well, my board seems to be the rare case where that happens on a real hardware - setup runs well enough, but exactly a few seconds before you'd get to the components installation part (last two progeess bars - one is for that IIS component, the other is the classic component registering and saving settings) it unexpectedly closes, PC reboots and you're back to the first GUI setup screen for 2k.

Anyone has an idea how I'd tackle this 🤣? On Virtualbox I'd just adjust the delay for the IDE driver but not sure how I'd circumvent this issue on a real mobo, aside from using an Epox 3VCM to install 2k first on and then move it to the LT P6VBX7. (since they both use the same VIA drivers, more or less.)

Have you tried disabling ACPI? I've had boards that do this because ACPI and 2K did not play ball..

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Reply 25099 of 27649, by PcBytes

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appiah4 wrote on 2023-08-31, 06:48:

Have you tried disabling ACPI? I've had boards that do this because ACPI and 2K did not play ball..

IIRC yes, it's disabled in the BIOS by default anyways. The issue has to do with IDE though.

Here, from Virtualbox's addressing of this issue:

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When installing Windows 2000 guests, you might run into one of the following issues: […]
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When installing Windows 2000 guests, you might run into one of the following issues:

Installation reboots, usually during component registration.

Installation fills the whole hard disk with empty log files.

Installation complains about a failure installing msgina.dll.

These problems are all caused by a bug in the hard disk driver of Windows 2000. After issuing a hard disk request, there is a race condition in the Windows driver code which leads to corruption if the operation completes too fast. For example, the hardware interrupt from the IDE controller arrives too soon. With physical hardware, there is a guaranteed delay in most systems so the problem is usually hidden there. However, it should be possible to also reproduce it on physical hardware. In a virtual environment, it is possible for the operation to be done immediately, especially on very fast systems with multiple CPUs, and the interrupt is signaled sooner than on a physical system. The solution is to introduce an artificial delay before delivering such interrupts. This delay can be configured for a VM using the following command:

VBoxManage setextradata VM-name "VBoxInternal/Devices/piix3ide/0/Config/IRQDelay" 1

This sets the delay to one millisecond. In case this does not help, increase it to a value between 1 and 5 milliseconds. Please note that this slows down disk performance. After installation, you should be able to remove the key, or set it to 0.

Not sure but I suspect the SDRAM Cache Latency setting to also be the culprit here. Interesting how nobody encountered this on a physical machine and I'm probably the first to do so.

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