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Reply 16620 of 16947, by Joseph_Joestar

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HandOfFate wrote on 2020-09-10, 18:35:

who at Creative thought displaying a slow, "EAX" splash screen with sound on each startup was a good idea? Or overriding the Windows startup sound with some thunder?

I hated that as well, messing with my custom made Unreal Tournament sound theme back in the day. 😁

Almost tops the Nvidia 40.xx drivers turning off the minimize/maximize window animations and claiming "improved desktop performance".

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Reply 16621 of 16947, by Thandor

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PTherapist wrote on 2020-09-07, 18:33:
Dug out one of my PCs from storage to have a look what was inside, as my records didn't list any specific information about it. […]
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Dug out one of my PCs from storage to have a look what was inside, as my records didn't list any specific information about it. I couldn't remember anything about what was inside this PC, other than the installed CPU, RAM & HDD. Opened it up and was greeted with this:

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Lovely & red, but not so nice after a quick google search and finding out what it was - PC Chips M810L Rev 7.1C

Then to my surprise as I removed the screwed in cooler - AMD Duron CPU is soldered. 😲

I love the cooler, trying to pass off the CPU as a "Duron 1200+" when it appears it's nothing more than an 850MHz Duron slightly overclocked to 892MHz. 🤣

I got this PC free from a family friend many years back. They were pretty clueless about PCs so understandable how they ended up with such an oddball system like this.

The motherboard goes into storage now anyway, as I'm going to reuse the case for a Coppermine PIII 1.0GHz build.

I have one of these too but with an actual AMD Duron 1200MHz (also soldered) but sold as AMD Pro 2000+. It is also a PC Chips budget motherboard 😀. The Duron 1200 was quite nice but it's a bold move to call it anywhere near 2000+!

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Reply 16622 of 16947, by darry

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Joseph_Joestar wrote on 2020-09-10, 19:04:
HandOfFate wrote on 2020-09-10, 18:35:

who at Creative thought displaying a slow, "EAX" splash screen with sound on each startup was a good idea? Or overriding the Windows startup sound with some thunder?

I hated that as well, messing with my custom made Unreal Tournament sound theme back in the day. 😁

Almost tops the Nvidia 40.xx drivers turning off the minimize/maximize window animations and claiming "improved desktop performance".

Someday I fear we'll have advertizing on coffins and on the sides of hospital beds . By then, Creative's approach will look charmingly subtle and tasteful in comparison .

Reply 16623 of 16947, by Joseph_Joestar

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darry wrote on 2020-09-10, 19:46:

Someday I fear we'll have advertizing on coffins and on the sides of hospital beds . By then, Creative's approach will look charmingly subtle and tasteful in comparison .

Yup, spyware and add integration is the reason why I'm never "upgrading" to Windows 10.

Now that Win7 is EOL, I'm using Linux for internet and office tasks and consoles for gaming. Though to be frank, very few modern games interest me anymore, so I'm not sure I'll even get the next console generation. There are too many retro games still on my backlog anyhow. 😁

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Reply 16624 of 16947, by yawetaG

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yawetaG wrote on 2020-09-10, 17:44:

Looks like my main retro system's boot disk (21 years old 4GB Quantum Fireball) failed today...the system won't boot into Windows anymore and complains of corrupted directories. It suggested running ScanReg, which hung itself. Scandisk shows some bad sectors and appears to not be able to get past a certain point when running a surface scan 🙁

It had shown some increasing signs of instability in the last couple of months. Guess I now know why...

Edit: Ah, it looks like Scandisk is just very slow. Guess I'll let it run overnight and see the damage tomorrow (I suspect that I'll have to reinstall Windows because one of the bad clusters hit the Windows drivers folder...).

Close to three hours later, and I'm at 5 more bad clusters (it already had 5) and it's busy with a sixth found right after the fifth. The last two bad clusters have been keeping it busy for close to an hour now. Scandisk is at 90% of the drive...

(and I want to go to sleep)

Reply 16625 of 16947, by pentiumspeed

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Do not do that scanning/fixing does not help at all and takes so long, scan is destroying more of your hard drive in the process, best way is to identify what files that was ruined by the bad sectors and replace those after backing up the hard drive to another.

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Reply 16626 of 16947, by luckybob

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agreed, if you have ANY errors on a spinning rust drive, pull the data and toss the drive. MFM is a different beast that doesn't necessarily apply to this rule.

It is a mistake to think you can solve any major problems just with potatoes.

Reply 16627 of 16947, by yawetaG

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luckybob wrote on 2020-09-10, 21:09:

agreed, if you have ANY errors on a spinning rust drive, pull the data and toss the drive. MFM is a different beast that doesn't necessarily apply to this rule.

It really depends on the drive. I've got another drive in the same system that has had some bad clusters for over 15 years and never got any new ones (a Maxtor 🤣).

I don't really expect that I can salvage the Windows installation on the 4 GB drive. Likely I will delete the partitions, repartition and reformat, and reinstall. If more bad clusters pop up during the reformatting, I'll chuck the faulty drive and reinstall on the other drive (but will have to backup my SimCity 3000 cities first).

Reply 16628 of 16947, by luckybob

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And my point remains. If its an ide or scsi drive with bad sectors, it should be replaced. Even if its just retro gaming. The time required dealing with bad sectors and possible failures just isn't worth the effort.

It is a mistake to think you can solve any major problems just with potatoes.

Reply 16629 of 16947, by yawetaG

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Oh, probably, but what I do with my time is up to myself, ain't it? 😉

So... 8 bad clusters, system.dat and user.dat and a CAB file unreadable. Brilliant. 😁

Reply 16630 of 16947, by pentiumspeed

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No. Get another hard drive. Not worth your time worrying about keeping using a dying drive, data is.

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Reply 16631 of 16947, by yawetaG

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pentiumspeed wrote on 2020-09-10, 21:46:

No. Get another hard drive. Not worth your time worrying about keeping using a dying drive, data is.

Cheers,

None of the 'important' data is on that drive. In as much as a bunch of savegames are important. I mean, I have data that is much more important than that, and that data has multiple copies spread over multiple machines...

I learned the lesson of segregating data and operating system a very long time ago.

And just to kill off this discussion: I know that using a dying hard drive is probably a bad idea. But one has to take the time for new experiences, and I've had much luck with hard disks in general. This is my first such failure in 30 years (!) 😁

Reply 16633 of 16947, by aha2940

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yawetaG wrote on 2020-09-10, 21:19:
luckybob wrote on 2020-09-10, 21:09:

agreed, if you have ANY errors on a spinning rust drive, pull the data and toss the drive. MFM is a different beast that doesn't necessarily apply to this rule.

It really depends on the drive. I've got another drive in the same system that has had some bad clusters for over 15 years and never got any new ones (a Maxtor 🤣).

I also had a Maxtor HDD for about 10 years with a single bad sector and never developed any other, however the bad sector was the boot sector, so no OS would boot from it 🙁 . The drive eventually died due to a bad PS.

Reply 16634 of 16947, by liqmat

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luckybob wrote on 2020-09-10, 21:38:

And my point remains. If its an ide or scsi drive with bad sectors, it should be replaced. Even if its just retro gaming. The time required dealing with bad sectors and possible failures just isn't worth the effort.

Remember the good ole days.

Reply 16635 of 16947, by Jed118

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Been a while since I posted here, I moved recently and went out and I think for something like $90 I got this commercial grade shelf, the supports, slats, and other mounting hardware to fill my office closet.

Potato quality because old smartphone, dropped my S7, shattering the LCD.

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Reply 16636 of 16947, by appiah4

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Oh man.. I look at that photo and the ultraprotective parent in me starts screaming in my head "That breadbin, it will fall onto the toddler's foot!".

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Reply 16637 of 16947, by Jed118

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Meh, it's counterweighed by the large and heavy AC adapter, plus the VIC is light and also that styrofoam softens the blow.

I'm of the adage of leaving the child to find out for himself. I've seen him about to get a boo boo on a a number of occasions and let it happen - how else is he gonna learn? I don't want to hover over him and protect him till he's in his mid 30s. And guess what - it works. He learns, he's a cautious explorer.

Obviously things like running off with my screwdrivers or leaving sharps on the edge of the countertops are no-gos, I'm not negligent, but a helicopter parent I am not.

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Reply 16638 of 16947, by Jed118

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aha2940 wrote on 2020-09-10, 23:59:

I also had a Maxtor HDD for about 10 years with a single bad sector and never developed any other, however the bad sector was the boot sector, so no OS would boot from it 🙁 . The drive eventually died due to a bad PS.

Half the Maxtors I've owned had bad sectors on them. Sometimes, I get lucky and they're at the end of the partition, so a 120MB drive becomes a 90MB drive.

Still, I am of the firm belief that Maxtor drives, overall, are of low quality. If I have a retro system I care about, it'll have a WD in there.

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