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Reply 16700 of 17029, by pentiumspeed

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pan069 wrote on 2020-09-19, 07:44:

A while back I ordered some Startech Ps/2 brackets. My ASUS PVI SP3 486 board didn't came with one and my KVM only supports PS/2 mouse & keyboard. I had to change the connector and to make sure I got the pin out correct and I found this helpful Vogons thread: PVI-486SP3 Documentation / Manual

Mouse is working perfectly!

On the same machine, the CPU fan was noisy, so I added some WD4 to that, hopefully this will quiet it down. One thing I noticed on this machine though, is that if I place my hand on the case (mini tower) the whole case is filled with a high frequency vibration. Its not that the case shakes or anything but there is a clear consistent vibration. Do we consider this normal for a 486 build with CPU fan?

WD40 is metal coating to prevent rust. Due to this, the oil mixture it used thickens with time in few days your "lube" will turn into sticky, greasy paste-like stuff and fan may stop. If you like that fan, best way is take it apart and clean horrible stuff out and use baby oil (mineral oil) or engine oil if you have some around. I use clock and watch oils as I have it on hand due to my watch and clock hobby.

Cheers,

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Reply 16701 of 17029, by Horun

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pentiumspeed wrote on 2020-09-19, 18:05:
pan069 wrote on 2020-09-19, 07:44:

A while back I ordered some Startech Ps/2 brackets. My ASUS PVI SP3 486 board didn't came with one and my KVM only supports PS/2 mouse & keyboard. I had to change the connector and to make sure I got the pin out correct and I found this helpful Vogons thread: PVI-486SP3 Documentation / Manual

Mouse is working perfectly!

On the same machine, the CPU fan was noisy, so I added some WD4 to that, hopefully this will quiet it down. One thing I noticed on this machine though, is that if I place my hand on the case (mini tower) the whole case is filled with a high frequency vibration. Its not that the case shakes or anything but there is a clear consistent vibration. Do we consider this normal for a 486 build with CPU fan?

WD40 is metal coating to prevent rust. Due to this, the oil mixture it used thickens with time in few days your "lube" will turn into sticky, greasy paste-like stuff and fan may stop. If you like that fan, best way is take it apart and clean horrible stuff out and use baby oil (mineral oil) or engine oil if you have some around. I use clock and watch oils as I have it on hand due to my watch and clock hobby.

Cheers,

Agree ! Sewing machine oil is also one of the best if you can find it, extremely light weight, does not thicken and generally safe on all metals and most plastics too.

Hate posting a reply and have to edit it because it made no sense 😁 First computer was an IBM 3270 workstation with CGA monitor. 🤣 Second computer a 286 12Mhz with real IDE drive ! After that came 386, 486, Pentium, P.Pro and everything after....

Reply 16702 of 17029, by darry

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Horun wrote on 2020-09-19, 18:10:
pentiumspeed wrote on 2020-09-19, 18:05:
pan069 wrote on 2020-09-19, 07:44:

A while back I ordered some Startech Ps/2 brackets. My ASUS PVI SP3 486 board didn't came with one and my KVM only supports PS/2 mouse & keyboard. I had to change the connector and to make sure I got the pin out correct and I found this helpful Vogons thread: PVI-486SP3 Documentation / Manual

Mouse is working perfectly!

On the same machine, the CPU fan was noisy, so I added some WD4 to that, hopefully this will quiet it down. One thing I noticed on this machine though, is that if I place my hand on the case (mini tower) the whole case is filled with a high frequency vibration. Its not that the case shakes or anything but there is a clear consistent vibration. Do we consider this normal for a 486 build with CPU fan?

WD40 is metal coating to prevent rust. Due to this, the oil mixture it used thickens with time in few days your "lube" will turn into sticky, greasy paste-like stuff and fan may stop. If you like that fan, best way is take it apart and clean horrible stuff out and use baby oil (mineral oil) or engine oil if you have some around. I use clock and watch oils as I have it on hand due to my watch and clock hobby.

Cheers,

Agree ! Sewing machine oil is also one of the best if you can find it, extremely light weight, does not thicken and generally safe on all metals and most plastics too.

How about silicone lubricant ? Not recommending, just asking .

Reply 16703 of 17029, by Horun

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darry wrote on 2020-09-19, 18:14:
Horun wrote on 2020-09-19, 18:10:
pentiumspeed wrote on 2020-09-19, 18:05:

WD40 is metal coating to prevent rust. Due to this, the oil mixture it used thickens with time in few days your "lube" will turn into sticky, greasy paste-like stuff and fan may stop. If you like that fan, best way is take it apart and clean horrible stuff out and use baby oil (mineral oil) or engine oil if you have some around. I use clock and watch oils as I have it on hand due to my watch and clock hobby.
Cheers,

Agree ! Sewing machine oil is also one of the best if you can find it, extremely light weight, does not thicken and generally safe on all metals and most plastics too.

How about silicone lubricant ? Not recommending, just asking .

Some of the silicon based are very good IMHO, I use a light white Silicon grease on my floppy drive rails, gears and parts. Have never seen it thicken up/turn to sludge over many years. Have never tried any Silicon based oils, but would assume they would be good.

Hate posting a reply and have to edit it because it made no sense 😁 First computer was an IBM 3270 workstation with CGA monitor. 🤣 Second computer a 286 12Mhz with real IDE drive ! After that came 386, 486, Pentium, P.Pro and everything after....

Reply 16704 of 17029, by pan069

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pentiumspeed wrote on 2020-09-19, 18:05:
pan069 wrote on 2020-09-19, 07:44:

A while back I ordered some Startech Ps/2 brackets. My ASUS PVI SP3 486 board didn't came with one and my KVM only supports PS/2 mouse & keyboard. I had to change the connector and to make sure I got the pin out correct and I found this helpful Vogons thread: PVI-486SP3 Documentation / Manual

Mouse is working perfectly!

On the same machine, the CPU fan was noisy, so I added some WD4 to that, hopefully this will quiet it down. One thing I noticed on this machine though, is that if I place my hand on the case (mini tower) the whole case is filled with a high frequency vibration. Its not that the case shakes or anything but there is a clear consistent vibration. Do we consider this normal for a 486 build with CPU fan?

WD40 is metal coating to prevent rust. Due to this, the oil mixture it used thickens with time in few days your "lube" will turn into sticky, greasy paste-like stuff and fan may stop. If you like that fan, best way is take it apart and clean horrible stuff out and use baby oil (mineral oil) or engine oil if you have some around. I use clock and watch oils as I have it on hand due to my watch and clock hobby.

Cheers,

Oops. Thanks for the heads up. Can you suggest something for cleaning?

Reply 16705 of 17029, by Thermalwrong

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I made up a nice front facia for the oled screen on the FlashFloppy Gotek drive. It sticks out 3.8mm and only needs a slot drilled/cut out on the side to get the wires through, then the facia fits over that and some doublesided tape holds it all together. It's a bit nicer looking than my initial jamming the screen in with blu-tack and the printed facia means I don't have to worry about cutting super cleanly.

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The hole I cut out for the red LED turned out to be a total mistake though, still need to cover that up.

Also I found out why this Packard Bell 300 computer I bought had an ISA VGA CL GD5422 card with it (which made it a great deal!). The VGA card has some fault with the RAMDAC or something that causes it to output 15khz half the time, but if I heat it up with the hairdrier it works for a bit, then after a while the VGA signal gets super noisy. So I guess I'll be using this board with a separate video card after all.

Reply 16708 of 17029, by darry

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Horun wrote on 2020-09-19, 19:54:
darry wrote on 2020-09-19, 18:14:
Horun wrote on 2020-09-19, 18:10:

Agree ! Sewing machine oil is also one of the best if you can find it, extremely light weight, does not thicken and generally safe on all metals and most plastics too.

How about silicone lubricant ? Not recommending, just asking .

Some of the silicon based are very good IMHO, I use a light white Silicon grease on my floppy drive rails, gears and parts. Have never seen it thicken up/turn to sludge over many years. Have never tried any Silicon based oils, but would assume they would be good.

Thank you . I have some handy if I need it .

Reply 16709 of 17029, by creepingnet

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Finally finished building out the Docking Station Monitor Stand for my NEC/AT&T Docking Station. It's built out of reclaimed pallet wood from my day-job (IT for Healthcare). Mostly I've been building guitars out of it but this monitor stand turned out pretty nice for a rush-job done with minimal hand-tools. It also feels like it can support a much heavier monitor than the original one would (the original is plastic and not as thick, nor does it extend out as far). May still do some more sanding and fine-tuning before I put a finish on it.

Also, cleaned up the P/75. Found out it has an actual ESS688 Audio Card in it - yay! It's making me wonder now if the DX4's audio module (Crystal WSS compatible CS4231) is exchangeable with the ESS688 module.......Might be cool to convert the M/75 into it's own custom model (and finally have DOS audio on the go). I also ordered another Seagate Momentous 80GB HDD for the P/75 - it works so well in my 40EC, and M/75 might as well just stick with what I know works. The plan is to make the P/75 a Windows 95 machine, and leave the M/75 on FreeDOS, and the 40EC on MS-DOS 6.22/Windows For Workgroups.

Put the 540MB Drive from the P/75 in the 40EC, on a fresh install it's nice and fast on only 8MB of RAM.

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Reply 16710 of 17029, by BetaC

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I managed most of the cabling within my general purpose 98SE/Late-DOS/W2k system, freeing up some extra resources that can eventually find their way in to a Pentium/S7 build I want to eventually do. I can still work a little more to make it completely clean, but I'm good for now.

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Reply 16711 of 17029, by the_ultra_code

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BetaC wrote on 2020-09-20, 07:13:

I managed most of the cabling within my general purpose 98SE/Late-DOS/W2k system, freeing up some extra resources that can eventually find their way in to a Pentium/S7 build I want to eventually do. I can still work a little more to make it completely clean, but I'm good for now.

A little messy. Could use some additional cable management perhaps.

Have you thought about Socket 370, or is there a specific reason you're sticking to Slot 1?

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Reply 16712 of 17029, by appiah4

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Deksor wrote on 2020-09-19, 11:05:

Can you make a clearer photo ? 😀

I have the same board but mine is dead and I removed too many components to have it recognisable
Here's the corresponding uh19 page : http://www.win3x.org/uh19/motherboard/show/5411

I also have this board in working condition. Enjoy.

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Reply 16713 of 17029, by chrismeyer6

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creepingnet wrote on 2020-09-20, 04:08:

Finally finished building out the Docking Station Monitor Stand for my NEC/AT&T Docking Station. It's built out of reclaimed pallet wood from my day-job (IT for Healthcare). Mostly I've been building guitars out of it but this monitor stand turned out pretty nice for a rush-job done with minimal hand-tools. It also feels like it can support a much heavier monitor than the original one would (the original is plastic and not as thick, nor does it extend out as far). May still do some more sanding and fine-tuning before I put a finish on it.

Also, cleaned up the P/75. Found out it has an actual ESS688 Audio Card in it - yay! It's making me wonder now if the DX4's audio module (Crystal WSS compatible CS4231) is exchangeable with the ESS688 module.......Might be cool to convert the M/75 into it's own custom model (and finally have DOS audio on the go). I also ordered another Seagate Momentous 80GB HDD for the P/75 - it works so well in my 40EC, and M/75 might as well just stick with what I know works. The plan is to make the P/75 a Windows 95 machine, and leave the M/75 on FreeDOS, and the 40EC on MS-DOS 6.22/Windows For Workgroups.

Put the 540MB Drive from the P/75 in the 40EC, on a fresh install it's nice and fast on only 8MB of RAM.

That monitor stand came out great. Are you going to stain or.paint the wood?

Reply 16714 of 17029, by stoof

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creepingnet wrote on 2020-09-20, 04:08:

Finally finished building out the Docking Station Monitor Stand for my NEC/AT&T Docking Station. *snip*

Man, for a while there I was SO confused as to why the "VIRTUALISER PRO" text was mirrored, yet the image was not. Then it hit me. 😀

Oh and nice monitor stand. Also nice to hear that someone out there is making guitars out of pallet wood.

Reply 16716 of 17029, by Deksor

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appiah4 wrote on 2020-09-20, 09:46:
Deksor wrote on 2020-09-19, 11:05:

Can you make a clearer photo ? 😀

I have the same board but mine is dead and I removed too many components to have it recognisable
Here's the corresponding uh19 page : http://www.win3x.org/uh19/motherboard/show/5411

I also have this board in working condition. Enjoy.

Thank you 😀

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Reply 16717 of 17029, by creepingnet

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chrismeyer6 wrote on 2020-09-20, 09:58:
creepingnet wrote on 2020-09-20, 04:08:

Finally finished building out the Docking Station Monitor Stand for my NEC/AT&T Docking Station. It's built out of reclaimed pallet wood from my day-job (IT for Healthcare). Mostly I've been building guitars out of it but this monitor stand turned out pretty nice for a rush-job done with minimal hand-tools. It also feels like it can support a much heavier monitor than the original one would (the original is plastic and not as thick, nor does it extend out as far). May still do some more sanding and fine-tuning before I put a finish on it.

Also, cleaned up the P/75. Found out it has an actual ESS688 Audio Card in it - yay! It's making me wonder now if the DX4's audio module (Crystal WSS compatible CS4231) is exchangeable with the ESS688 module.......Might be cool to convert the M/75 into it's own custom model (and finally have DOS audio on the go). I also ordered another Seagate Momentous 80GB HDD for the P/75 - it works so well in my 40EC, and M/75 might as well just stick with what I know works. The plan is to make the P/75 a Windows 95 machine, and leave the M/75 on FreeDOS, and the 40EC on MS-DOS 6.22/Windows For Workgroups.

Put the 540MB Drive from the P/75 in the 40EC, on a fresh install it's nice and fast on only 8MB of RAM.

That monitor stand came out great. Are you going to stain or.paint the wood?

Yes, most likely with clear shellac since that's what I have on hand, and it'll look cool to be able to see the wood grain. Have used it a few hours already and liking how this worked out a lot better than expected.

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