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Reply 13340 of 27389, by Caluser2000

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Re-purposed a 1.44 floppy with scratched disk into a 720k floppy.

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Edit- The patient booted fine.

Last edited by Caluser2000 on 2019-10-31, 12:04. Edited 2 times in total.

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Reply 13341 of 27389, by bjwil1991

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FAMICOMASTER wrote:

Your car's radio is probably following FCC regulations... That, and it's likely that there's a very long coaxial cable to the antenna, which means that very low power or far away stations get lost just from the cable.

That was my initial thought as well. I should lower the power on the board sometime, but, this is for my personal use only.

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Reply 13342 of 27389, by Bruninho

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Caluser2000 wrote:

Re-purposed a 1.44 floppy with scratched disk into a 720k floppy.

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Edit- The patient booted fine.

Now try the other way around 🤣 just kidding. Good job.

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Reply 13343 of 27389, by FAMICOMASTER

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Caluser2000 wrote:

Re-purposed a 1.44 floppy with scratched disk into a 720k floppy.

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Edit- The patient booted fine.

Does this actually work? I thought the media was different in some way, instead of just having less tracks like a DD 5.25 diskette.

Reply 13344 of 27389, by Caluser2000

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Just replace the cooky and cover up the HD hole. Very simple really.

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Reply 13345 of 27389, by derSammler

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No, not very simple. You can not use HD media as DD or DD media as HD. People try that and it often works, but only for a very short time. Data is lost after a few days, or some weeks at most. HD and DD use media that requires different Oersted values to write data to. Wrong Oersted value means that the data is either written too weak (HD as DD), or adjacent tracks getting corrupted while writing a track (DD as HD). That's also why HD drives have an extra sensor for DD media. It's not that they need to know that the disk inserted has only 720k, but to know that they need to switch writing current to match the media.

Reply 13346 of 27389, by Grzyb

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Does this actually work? I thought the media was different in some way, instead of just having less tracks like a DD 5.25 diskette.

The media have different coercivity, but in case of 3.5" disks, not much...
DD = 600-665 Oe
HD = 720-750 Oe

Back in the era, when DD diskettes were cheaper, some people used to drill holes in them, to use them as HD.
Nowadays, when DD diskettes are rare, it's common to do the reverse.

With 5.25" diskettes, however, it's impossible, the difference is much greater:
DD = 300 Oe
HD = 600 Oe

Żywotwór planetarny, jego gnijące błoto, jest świtem egzystencji, fazą wstępną, i wyłoni się z krwawych ciastomózgowych miedź miłująca...

Reply 13347 of 27389, by Caluser2000

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derSammler wrote:

No, not very simple. You can not use HD media as DD or DD media as HD. People try that and it often works, but only for a very short time. Data is lost after a few days, or some weeks at most. HD and DD uses media that requires different Oersted values to write data to. Wrong Oersted means that the data is either written too weak (HD as DD), or adjacent tracks getting corrupted while writing a track (DD as HD).

I am NOT using 720k media as 1.44meg madia. I just purely but the 720k cooky in the 1.44meg case just to use it as 720k. That simple. Good cooky replaces bad cooky. Cover up the HD hole so as not to accidently have it try to be formatted as 1.44megs and you have a 720k floppy. Does that help? Here's a pretty picture

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During the process of swapping I could have damaged the 720k cooky quite easily. The boot and subsequently testing out various files were functioning correctly verified I hadn't damage said transplanted 720k cooky. Hmmm, now I'm hungry.....

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Reply 13348 of 27389, by Caluser2000

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Back in the era, when DD diskettes were cheaper, some people used to drill holes in them, to use them as HD.
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Mag cover disks were always good candidates for this. Your Amiga friends usually had shit loads of them. Soldering irons were the tool of choice if a hole was needed. No messy shards.

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Apparently 32-bit is dead and nobody likes P4s.
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Reply 13349 of 27389, by keenmaster486

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Upgraded my Thinkpad T41 from a Pentium M 1.6 GHz CPU to a 1.8 GHz version, and 1536 MB RAM instead of 1024.

World's foremost 486 enjoyer.

Reply 13350 of 27389, by bjwil1991

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My R40 supports up to 1GB RAM and has a P4-M 2GHz.

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Reply 13351 of 27389, by Caluser2000

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Put some velcro patches on the back flap of my Zenith Data Systems PC Z-180 lap top because the original latch broke of.

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Does the job quite nicely. No fear if it flipping over and getting damaged while inserting it in to its case.

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Apparently 32-bit is dead and nobody likes P4s.
Of course, as always, I'm open to correction...😉

Reply 13352 of 27389, by appiah4

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Grzyb wrote:
The media have different coercivity, but in case of 3.5" disks, not much... DD = 600-665 Oe HD = 720-750 Oe […]
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FAMICOMASTER wrote:

Does this actually work? I thought the media was different in some way, instead of just having less tracks like a DD 5.25 diskette.

The media have different coercivity, but in case of 3.5" disks, not much...
DD = 600-665 Oe
HD = 720-750 Oe

Back in the era, when DD diskettes were cheaper, some people used to drill holes in them, to use them as HD.
Nowadays, when DD diskettes are rare, it's common to do the reverse.

With 5.25" diskettes, however, it's impossible, the difference is much greater:
DD = 300 Oe
HD = 600 Oe

I can report to doing this with over 200 DD 3.5" disks after moving from an Amiga to a 486. Failure rate after around 6 months was >50%.

And today I definitely want to kick myself in the balls repeatedly for ruining such a valuable stash of DD floppies.

At the time it felt economically sound though.

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Reply 13353 of 27389, by appiah4

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Tiido wrote:

I spent a while figuring out the jumpers of my new ALI PCI486 board, the CPU jumpers are now all traced out and most of the functions are now known of them. Now to figure out exactly what they must be set for various CPUs. Cyrix support seems to be the main thing, they have several pins on them that are way different from all the others that are mostly sticking to the same pinout.
Next up will be cache stuff, as soon an I figure out the connections.

I wish you had a YouTube channel or something, I would love to watch your work on your projects and repair jobs..

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Reply 13354 of 27389, by BetaC

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I managed to get myself a Big Box and complete version of TIE Fighter Collector's CD for $20 total. I can't complain.

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It even has an unused registration card. and, before you ask, the Label Maker label on my n3DS XL was applied by a coworker after I told them I legitimately have a living Pokedex.

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Reply 13355 of 27389, by jaZz_KCS

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Caluser2000 wrote:

Put some velcro patches on the back flap of my Zenith Data Systems PC Z-180 lap top because the original latch broke of.

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Does the job quite nicely. No fear if it flipping over and getting damaged while inserting it in to its case.

This looks very IBM PS/2 laptop like design-wise, I approve.

Reply 13356 of 27389, by jaZz_KCS

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BetaC wrote:
I managed to get myself a Big Box and complete version of TIE Fighter Collector's CD for $20 total. I can't complain. […]
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I managed to get myself a Big Box and complete version of TIE Fighter Collector's CD for $20 total. I can't complain.

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It even has an unused registration card. and, before you ask, the Label Maker label on my n3DS XL was applied by a coworker after I told them I legitimately have a living Pokedex.

That is the DOS version, correct? Best DOS Flight-Sim right there, period. And the vein of the existence of many, many and oh so many Serial and PS/2 mice that were "abused" playing this game ad infinitum.

Reply 13357 of 27389, by GigAHerZ

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Not sure, if it's already retro activity or not, but...

Bought 1TB 2.5" HDD, put into a external hdd box and connected it to my Wii console. Works perfectly.

You guys know that Wii can play total of 22 consoles? (Wii & Gamecube are native, others are emulated)
All in all, i think the original Wii is the perfect console when taking few beers with friends.

"640K ought to be enough for anybody." - And i intend to get every last bit out of it even after loading every damn driver!

Reply 13358 of 27389, by Caluser2000

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Scrounging out in thse shed and come across this

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It was rather dirty but a cycle in the dish washer bought it up a treat.

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Apparently 32-bit is dead and nobody likes P4s.
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Reply 13359 of 27389, by Merovign

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It's not retro per se, but *could* be used for retro, so...

I think I figured out what to do about mounting 24 2.5" drives in a computer case (for reasons not worth going into and I've posted before).

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Maybe not this exact model, and I might fabricate something to get the "blades" closer together, but something that can fit 2 or 4 drives per "blade" and be mounted "sideways" so a case fan can blow over them.

Now I just need to find the materials cheap, because I'm doing this on the cheap.

Ridiculous is so awesome.

So anyway, speaking of ridiculous, I'm shopping for anti-static bags for my collection of cards filling up a small set of shelves, mostly uncovered. It turns out that if you spend a couple of hours on eBay and note down the prices and amounts, there are actually a few good deals to be had. A brief search is likely to make things look much more expensive, which is why I quit last time.
 

*Too* *many* *things*!