mmx_91 wrote:

Got a pure copper low-profile heatsink, I believe it was originally meant for Socket 370 (or maybe Socket A?), quite heavy for its size! I tried it on a spare SS 7 board I have for testing purposes and... What an overkill solution!! But i like it 🤣 🤣. So I cleaned it and I'm lapping the bottom right now, need to find a silent fan to replace this old piece of junk

I wonder if with such an overkill heatsink you couldn't just remove the fan and run it with passive cooling.

alexanrs wrote:

I wonder if with such an overkill heatsink you couldn't just remove the fan and run it with passive cooling.

Yep, but I'll need some airflow when mounted inside the case (AT). I'm planning on buying one of those modern silent 50mm fans. This old one is quite noisy even at 7V.

BSA Starfire wrote:

I also have a SiS 530 based motherboard, it's a Acer V75M from an IBM Aptiva. Mine has a K6/2 450, the original CPU it came with […]
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Skyscraper wrote:

As I failed to get any really good SuperPi scores with my Gigabyte GA-5SMM SiS 530 board I thought I would see just how fast I c […]
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As I failed to get any really good SuperPi scores with my Gigabyte GA-5SMM SiS 530 board I thought I would see just how fast I could get the built in SiS 6306 video controller.

The VESA video memory bandwidth in Speedsys is among the best I have seen and the FPS in DOOM is also among the best I have seen with a Socket-7 system. The SiS 530s CPU performance is really sucky though so "CPU heavy" Quake only performs so so. Both my PC Chips 577 MVP3 board and my Gigabyte GA-5AX Aladdin 5 board are faster when it comes to anything that depends mostly on CPU or memory speed.

K6-3+ @620 5x124 motherboard cache off 256MB

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Quake: 75.5 FPS
Doom: 140.66 FPS (2134 gametics in 531 realtics)
3dbench2: 342.6 FPS
PCPbench: 138.5 FPS

This setting seems fully Windows stable at 2.2V (2.3V set, 2.2V sensor)

I also have a SiS 530 based motherboard, it's a Acer V75M from an IBM Aptiva. Mine has a K6/2 450, the original CPU it came with.(fastest socket 7 CPU I have).

Here are my scores with onboard video and 128mb PC 100 SDRAM, 8mb allocated to graphics RAM.

Quake 51.2
Doom 109.2
3D Bench2 249.3
PCPbench 91.5

Now here are my score using a S3 ViRGE 325 2mb PCI card.

Quake 55.2
Doom 88.29
3Dbench2 229.2
PCPbench 99.1

So my figures agree with yours in the speed of the 530 for doom & vesa,and slower for CPU intensive stuff with the onboard VGA controller.

I too have a similar system 😀
Asus P5S-VM (came from an HP)
SiS530 Chipset
onboard SiS530 Graphics, 8MB
K6-2 550Mhz

Quake 61.7
Doom 109.51 (682 realticks)
3Dbench2 255.5
PCPbench 96.7

clueless1 wrote:

I too have a similar system :) Asus P5S-VM (came from an HP) SiS530 Chipset onboard SiS530 Graphics, 8MB K6-2 550Mhz […]
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I too have a similar system 😀
Asus P5S-VM (came from an HP)
SiS530 Chipset
onboard SiS530 Graphics, 8MB
K6-2 550Mhz

Quake 61.7
Doom 109.51 (682 realticks)
3Dbench2 255.5
PCPbench 96.7

Nice, your scores follow the same pattern!

The built in video performs really well in Doom and I would think any other game bottlenecked by the same thing. The bottleneck seems purly video related as in the video chip it self or video memory throughput. I think its the video memoy throughput benchmarked by Speedsys as VESA memory speed.

System memory benchmarks performs much much worse with the video chip sharing system memory so I think the memory controller priorities feeding the video chip and does a surprisingly good job.

Do any of your SiS 530 boards have the dedicated 8MB SDRAM for the video or do you all use shared system ram?

nforce4max wrote:

petro89 wrote:

Yep. A strong AMD benefits everyone.

Yea but sadly those days are behind us, I was bit of an AMD fan until Bulldozer hit the scene.

Still kind of off topic, but the desktop scene for AMD is years and years behind.. sadly.

The fastest AMD non-APU desktop cpu's are I think 3-4 years old today, and their fastest multi-GPU platform, 990FX doesn't even have native PCI-Express 3.0 yet.. they sell PCIE-3.0 video cards, but yet have no AMD platform that can use them at full speed.

Where as Intel is now on I think it's 3rd or 4th (or maybe 5th) generation PCIE-3.0 platform. And even the newest intel platforms have USB 3.1 onboard and Sata-10Gbps onboard as well.

I used to like AMD, but sadly they're just way behind the times, both in performance and features. 🙁

Most of their focus is on the newer APU chips these days with integrated graphics.

These days Intel is: high compute performance with low power and low heat.
AMD is: decent compute performance, but on the high-end extremely high power (almost +2x Intel's i7 chips for some amd 8 cores) and high heat (the bigger 8 core AMD Chips -REQUIRE- water cooling).

AMD's usually cheaper too. So just depends on what you can handle performance wise and your budget which you get.

I'm not being "Fanboyish" ... just starting facts. It is what it is today.

Also about the above quote, yes the "Socket" you can get one socket and use a wide range of chips with AMD but then it boils down to the motherboard. Not all motherboards have the power sub-system to support the higher end chips, some of them are just restricted to a few. Some AMD motherboards even though on the right socket, don't even support 6 core amd chips (or anything past that). So just have to be careful what you buy with AMD and do your research first.

Skyscraper wrote:

Nice, your scores follow the same pattern! […]
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clueless1 wrote:

I too have a similar system :) Asus P5S-VM (came from an HP) SiS530 Chipset onboard SiS530 Graphics, 8MB K6-2 550Mhz […]
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I too have a similar system 😀
Asus P5S-VM (came from an HP)
SiS530 Chipset
onboard SiS530 Graphics, 8MB
K6-2 550Mhz

Quake 61.7
Doom 109.51 (682 realticks)
3Dbench2 255.5
PCPbench 96.7

Nice, your scores follow the same pattern!

The built in video performs really well in Doom and I would think any other game bottlenecked by the same thing. The bottleneck seems purly video related as in the video chip it self or video memory throughput. I think its the video memoy throughput benchmarked by Speedsys as VESA memory speed.

System memory benchmarks performs much much worse with the video chip sharing system memory so I think the memory controller priorities feeding the video chip and does a surprisingly good job.

Do any of your SiS 530 boards have the dedicated 8MB SDRAM for the video or do you all use shared system ram?

Mine is shared. I have 64MB installed and speedsys reports 56MB.

Not PC-related, but retro nonetheless.

I picked up a CRT TV today! I've been hanging out for a PVM or BVM broadcast monitor, but this popped up and I couldn't turn it down. It's a Sony FD Trinitron KV-21FX30E in excellent condition, flat-screen with an RGB SCART input. The best part was it was completely FREE, just had to pick it up (which wasn't simple given it weighs 26kg)! Here's a potato phone picture of its new home:

I'll probably have to build a small stand for it since it has to be low enough for the window to swing open above it. Let's face it, you can't get corner TV stands like that anymore anyway, and I love building stuff.

I have some RGB cables on the way for my SNES and PS2, and I'll be RGB modding my N64 in the coming months. In the meantime, they're all on composite but it still looks fantastic compared to the blurry mess that my Samsung LCDTV spits out. Bonus potato phone scanlines:

kithylin wrote:

So just have to be careful what you buy with AMD and do your research first.

IMHO this should be the case for whatever PC part you wanna buy. Intel, AMD, NVidia, etc.

I'm hopeful Zen will be good enough to give Intel a run for their money. If Zen threatens Intel's dominance in several price segments, they should become more permissive with OCing on a budget once more.

As for a retro activity, today I'm reorganizing my "PC corner". Oh... my... god... so many wires.... Once I'm done I will play with my Tualeron again.

Got this board as defective last year - capacitors blown up. Today I replaced them... and voila - it works well again. 😀

Jetway 815EPDA, nothing fancy but it has native support for Tualatin and gets the job done.

This is what I got up to today:

How to test a Gravis Ultrasound ACE?

Got an untested one but I don't want to proclaim it's dead. Do you test it with another sound card or alone? Should Win95 recognize it by it self without additional drivers?

I realized that 3/3 of my spare power supplies are low quality, have terrible F You caps, or both.

So being in business trip in region i noticed in one of departments ibm keyboard and 1.2gb hdd and decide to take it home as trophy 🤣

After doing some soapy bath and bag of soap water therapy now i have it looks bit better:

Before

And after

I played Mirror's Edge for the first time since...2009? Played it with all the cool PhysX effects enabled this time! 😀

Swapped my PCI Radeon 7000 in the Katmai for yet another Radeon 7000 -- except this is a slightly higher end model. This one, instead of being the 32MB/VGA/S-Video variation, is (I think, not entirely sure at the moment) the 64MB/VGA/DVI/Composite version.

After reading a thread on here about MSI motherboards blowing up with highend P4 chips I decided to scrap and start over on my mega P4 build. Oh well, needed to wait to do anything until my thermal paste arrives anyways 😀

I am in the process of reinstalling an old IBM Thinkpad R52. I have allways said that I don't like to work with XP and that was history for me.
Though this machine is for my children. Going to install old childrens games from the 00's and DosBox on it.
They are still too young to play with real computers, as they are from that touch-generation. (they struggle using a mouse)
So DosBox and a laptop with XP shall do the trick of learning them how to use a propper computer.

They are still too young to play with real computers, as they are from that touch-generation. (they struggle using a mouse)
So DosBox and a laptop with XP shall do the trick of learning them how to use a propper computer.

Excellent. My dad taught me to use a computer by putting DOS on an old laptop. That was my computer for the longest time, and I had a ton of fun with it. Nothing like good old MS-DOS for teaching basic computer skills! If I ever have kids I'll do the same thing.

brostenen wrote:

I am in the process of reinstalling an old IBM Thinkpad R52. I have allways said that I don't like to work with XP and that was […]
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I am in the process of reinstalling an old IBM Thinkpad R52. I have allways said that I don't like to work with XP and that was history for me.
Though this machine is for my children. Going to install old childrens games from the 00's and DosBox on it.
They are still too young to play with real computers, as they are from that touch-generation. (they struggle using a mouse)
So DosBox and a laptop with XP shall do the trick of learning them how to use a propper computer.

Thinkpads are real computers compered to what most people are using these days, modern laptops are almost excrement and the build quality is really poor. You can swap the board out for a board from a T43P for a good boost but you will need to mod the R52 cooler for the dedicated gpu.

My Thinkpad W520 is my daily driver, 4tb worth of storage, 16gb or ram at 1866, i7 2920xm, and Quadro 2000m. 😎

I don't know if this is "Retro Activity" or not... I've put this PCI Radeon 9100 (That I just bought off ebay earlier this week) in the PCI slot for my new I7-3770k P67 system, and installing XP-32 on a spare SATA hard drive in the system, planning to try a whole range of older benchmarks and games to see just how far these cards can scale with newer hardware. CPU in my P67 system is overclocked at 4.7 ghz on air by the way... which should be interesting to see how it does.