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3DFX Voodoo 3 2000 vs 3000 bench

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Reply 20 of 24, by sliderider

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Kahenraz wrote:

The reason for the scaling is specifically due to certain calculations that must still be done on the CPU. This is what TnL addressed. I was googling around and found a great graph from Anandtech showing CPU scaling on The Radeon VE, which also lacked TnL:

http://www.anandtech.com/show/721/11

It makes me wonder why they test entry level cards in high end systems at all. Anyone who can afford to pay for a high end computer, surely won't be putting a crappy video card in it. Yeah, I'm going to pay $5000 for a machine like an Alienware and then insist that they put a GT730 or R5 series video card into it. All that other expensive hardware is rendered useless because the video card can't handle current generation games.

Reply 21 of 24, by boxpressed

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Is there no difference between the kinds of memory on the 2000 and 3000 boards? I like to have a PCI version of the V3 in my 98SE builds to go alongside an AGP Geforce (using the BIOS init to switch between them).

The 3000 PCI usually sells for a premium over the 2000 PCI, so it would be good to know if there is no difference between them after using the overclocking tab.

Reply 22 of 24, by Thandor

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The 3000 has 6NS memory chips that guaranteed will run at 166MHz, whereas the 2000 usually has 7NS chips that will run at 143MHz. Often you can overclock the 7NS chips to 166MHz or get lucky and find 6NS chips on a Voodoo 3 2000.

Another difference is the type of memory- SD or SG RAM chips. The SGRAM chips perform slightly better. Here you'll see a SDRAM card and this link leads to a SGRAM model.

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Reply 23 of 24, by Skyscraper

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boxpressed wrote:

Is there no difference between the kinds of memory on the 2000 and 3000 boards? I like to have a PCI version of the V3 in my 98SE builds to go alongside an AGP Geforce (using the BIOS init to switch between them).

The 3000 PCI usually sells for a premium over the 2000 PCI, so it would be good to know if there is no difference between them after using the overclocking tab.

Every card will be different but my Voodoo 3 2000 PCI tops out at ~195 MHz for both core and memory, I mostly run the card at 183/183 to match the Voodoo 3 3500 though.

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Reply 24 of 24, by meljor

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Thandor wrote:

The 3000 has 6NS memory chips that guaranteed will run at 166MHz, whereas the 2000 usually has 7NS chips that will run at 143MHz. Often you can overclock the 7NS chips to 166MHz or get lucky and find 6NS chips on a Voodoo 3 2000.

Another difference is the type of memory- SD or SG RAM chips. The SGRAM chips perform slightly better. Here you'll see a SDRAM card and this link leads to a SGRAM model.

Just checked my v3 2000 cards. 5x pci sgram, 2x pci sdram, 2x agp sdram. That's nine pci v3 2000 cards and they all have 6ns memory, so i guess 6ns is pretty normal.
With a bit of good cooling they should clock the same as the 3000 cards as they indeed also have 6ns. Only v3-3500 had 5,5ns.

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