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Reply 20 of 48, by AlphaWing

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So its the update in CTCMBBS.exe
Thats great! I'll try it on my current P233 build I'm working on with the CT3670 AWE32 when I get the time later tonight.
I'll try this CTCMAPI.EXE TSR too, I think its for fooling the default version, I should of looked in the misc folder sooner.
Should help Squareguy too, thats the only real issue I have with Dos 7.1 and getting it to work like 6.22 for games
There both on the TheMAN's SB16 and AWE Compilation CD iso in the Vogons driver library.
http://www.vogonsdrivers.com/getfile.php?fileid=13

Reply 21 of 48, by Mau1wurf1977

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All I did was extraxt CTCMBBS in C:\CTCM and the other on in C:\AWE64

Then run CTCM.EXE to set the resources and then AWEUTIL/S and you should be up and running 😀

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Reply 22 of 48, by brostenen

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SB pro is a nice card. Yes.
My experience is that if an awe32 and MT32 is no were to get your hands on.
Then a different setup is the way to go.

You can get SB16's with settings that are 100% jumperbased.
And for later games that can do MT32, the SB Live is an excellent card.
Yes it is EMS only, yet those late DOS games are nearly all EMS games.
Just a matter of doing a DOS boot menu.
The live card is just as good for MT32 as awe are. Nearly...

Remember that this is only ment as an temporarly sollution.

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Reply 23 of 48, by squareguy

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What is the going rate for a Roland Sound Canvas SCC-1?

Gateway 2000 Case and 200-Watt PSU
Intel SE440BX-2 Motherboard
Intel Pentium III 450 CPU
Micron 384MB SDRAM (3x128)
Compaq Voodoo3 3500 TV Graphics Card
Turtle Beach Santa Cruz Sound Card
Western Digital 7200-RPM, 8MB-Cache, 160GB Hard Drive
Windows 98 SE

Reply 24 of 48, by squareguy

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Anyone know of a good case that doesn't have a window, lights, air vents, spinners, disco ball, fuzzy dice, etc? I just want a plain ATX case, especially if it was beige.

Gateway 2000 Case and 200-Watt PSU
Intel SE440BX-2 Motherboard
Intel Pentium III 450 CPU
Micron 384MB SDRAM (3x128)
Compaq Voodoo3 3500 TV Graphics Card
Turtle Beach Santa Cruz Sound Card
Western Digital 7200-RPM, 8MB-Cache, 160GB Hard Drive
Windows 98 SE

Reply 25 of 48, by AlphaWing

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Old Deer cases.
There not to hard to find.

Modern atx cases.
HEC makes an ATX desktop beige case its also in black, it also supports BABY AT boards, but you gota make your own IO plate.
I have not personally tried to put a baby at board in it, but the beige one I have, does look like it has the mounting holes for it.
Its almost always outa stock on newegg anymore, except apparently right now, atleast the black version of the case.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?It … N82E16811121010

Reply 26 of 48, by squareguy

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Thanks for the input thus far all.

I have a case. It is a Gateway 2000 desktop case. Pretty retro, I will stick a CRT monitor on top. The only downside I see is it uses a Gateway proprietary size PSU, they seemed to do that with all their stuff. I am not sure I trust that PSU. I do not think they had a lot of protection back then and I don't want my new box to have destroyed components in the event of a PSU going bad. Is this a legitimate concern? I may use a small SFX PSU and make an adapter plate.

Gateway 2000 Case and 200-Watt PSU
Intel SE440BX-2 Motherboard
Intel Pentium III 450 CPU
Micron 384MB SDRAM (3x128)
Compaq Voodoo3 3500 TV Graphics Card
Turtle Beach Santa Cruz Sound Card
Western Digital 7200-RPM, 8MB-Cache, 160GB Hard Drive
Windows 98 SE

Reply 27 of 48, by squareguy

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Well, I was browsing ebay and bought two more motherboards, the price was right. OK, I'm an addict.

MICROSTAR MS-5169
ATX
Super Socket 7, 1 AGP, 4 PCI, 3 ISA
Ali Aladdin-V Chipset

ASUS TXP4-X
ATX
Socket 7, 4 PCI, 4ISA
Intel 430TX Chipset

Gateway 2000 Case and 200-Watt PSU
Intel SE440BX-2 Motherboard
Intel Pentium III 450 CPU
Micron 384MB SDRAM (3x128)
Compaq Voodoo3 3500 TV Graphics Card
Turtle Beach Santa Cruz Sound Card
Western Digital 7200-RPM, 8MB-Cache, 160GB Hard Drive
Windows 98 SE

Reply 29 of 48, by squareguy

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Mau1wurf1977

You are a fan of the Ali Aladdin V chipset right? What do you think of the MS-5169 motherboard? Some guy was selling these things at $200 USD each but I got this one for $50 USD and free shipping. I will probably end up using one of these boards. I love the stability of the Intel chipsets. Anyway have you tried using UMBPCI with the Ali chipsets and what was you experience with them?

Gateway 2000 Case and 200-Watt PSU
Intel SE440BX-2 Motherboard
Intel Pentium III 450 CPU
Micron 384MB SDRAM (3x128)
Compaq Voodoo3 3500 TV Graphics Card
Turtle Beach Santa Cruz Sound Card
Western Digital 7200-RPM, 8MB-Cache, 160GB Hard Drive
Windows 98 SE

Reply 30 of 48, by Mau1wurf1977

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Don't have that board, but it should be pretty decent. Eager to see if you can enable DMA mode. I have one ALI board that does it, but with another board DMA mode doesn't stick. $50 is a fair price IMO, they certainly aren't getting cheaper. I never had the need for UMBPCI. You can use the start-up files from my website, they work with 99% of DOS games including Ultima 7 and other "tricky" games.

Intel chipset boards are nice, usually beating ALI and VIA chipset boards, but they don't support 100 MHz FSB processors.

My real favourite however is the SIS chipset board, the Asus SP97-XV. Just a shame it doesn't have AGP...

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Reply 31 of 48, by squareguy

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Thanks for the reply. BTW this may be useful information for someone wanting to use a K6-2/3+ CPU on motherboards that may not have official support.

http://web.inter.nl.net/hcc/J.Steunebrink/k6plus.htm

Gateway 2000 Case and 200-Watt PSU
Intel SE440BX-2 Motherboard
Intel Pentium III 450 CPU
Micron 384MB SDRAM (3x128)
Compaq Voodoo3 3500 TV Graphics Card
Turtle Beach Santa Cruz Sound Card
Western Digital 7200-RPM, 8MB-Cache, 160GB Hard Drive
Windows 98 SE

Reply 32 of 48, by 2fort5r

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squareguy wrote:

I poked around the forums and found this link http://gona.mactar.hu/DOS_TESTS/ and have decided on an S3 Savage 4 based card. I just ordered one of these brand new (new old stock). http://vgamuseum.ru/gpu/s3-graphics/diamond-s … 3-savage-4-pro/ I might be interested in reflashing the BIOS with modified lower core and memory speeds for longer card life, not sure if it's worth it.

I have a faulty S3 Savage 4 card. Would reflashing the BIOS do anything for it? How could I do this?

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Reply 33 of 48, by squareguy

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2fort5r

I doubt you would even be able to attempt flashing a faulty video card's BIOS with the possible exception of a recovery flash of a card with corrupt firmware.

What is wrong with it?

Gateway 2000 Case and 200-Watt PSU
Intel SE440BX-2 Motherboard
Intel Pentium III 450 CPU
Micron 384MB SDRAM (3x128)
Compaq Voodoo3 3500 TV Graphics Card
Turtle Beach Santa Cruz Sound Card
Western Digital 7200-RPM, 8MB-Cache, 160GB Hard Drive
Windows 98 SE

Reply 34 of 48, by squareguy

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Well I think this is quickly becoming an ongoing, very fluid project but here are a few pics of what it looks like currently. Nothing to brag about hehe,

Dell Micro-ATX case. Re-pinned the motherboard connectors.
Seasonic 300-Watt ATX power supply
ECS P5GX-m Geode motherboard
200-MHz Geode GXm CPU
32MB SDRAM (Awaiting a 16MB DIMM)
Audician 32 YMF718-S Sound Card
STB S3 Trio64 Video Card
Western Digital 40GB IDE hard drive, Alternate jumper setting because BIOS does not recognize drives larger than 32GB.
Sony IDE DVD burner
3.5" 1.44MB floppy drive

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Gateway 2000 Case and 200-Watt PSU
Intel SE440BX-2 Motherboard
Intel Pentium III 450 CPU
Micron 384MB SDRAM (3x128)
Compaq Voodoo3 3500 TV Graphics Card
Turtle Beach Santa Cruz Sound Card
Western Digital 7200-RPM, 8MB-Cache, 160GB Hard Drive
Windows 98 SE

Reply 37 of 48, by 2fort5r

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squareguy wrote:

I doubt you would even be able to attempt flashing a faulty video card's BIOS with the possible exception of a recovery flash of a card with corrupt firmware.

That's the thing. It runs well in 2D/Windows environment. It's gaming that's the problem. Corrupt textures. And running any of the PCMark programs causes it to go completely berserk and lock up the computer. It's not overheating since there's a 120mm fan blasting cold air onto it. It's been like this for years and I don't know what's wrong with it. I remember flashing firmware updates to an Nvidia card I used to own, so wondered if such a thing was possible with the Savage 4. This with Windows 98SE with the official S3 drivers.

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Reply 38 of 48, by squareguy

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In that case i would research flashing the card, I have not researched it yet. If possible i would extract firmware from card, then modify memory/core timings, and then flash slower timings back to card. If it is possible. Is there any utilities for this card that support overclocking? Of course in this case it would be underclocking.

Gateway 2000 Case and 200-Watt PSU
Intel SE440BX-2 Motherboard
Intel Pentium III 450 CPU
Micron 384MB SDRAM (3x128)
Compaq Voodoo3 3500 TV Graphics Card
Turtle Beach Santa Cruz Sound Card
Western Digital 7200-RPM, 8MB-Cache, 160GB Hard Drive
Windows 98 SE