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Reply 21 of 27, by gdjacobs

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Not to be a debbie downer but really why would anyone waste time installing 9x on anything newer than Core 2 Duo (and even for that I find questionable). You have to use 10+ year old GPUs and sound cards to make it work, even if you have a board with enough PCI slots for that. Then you run across SATA and chipset issues, potential HT issues as mentioned before. Not to mention a modern machine would much better off running something it was designed for or newer than being limited in usability by a nearly 20 year old operating system. Don't get me wrong, I do love me some Windows 98 but stick with Pentium 4 or older for that. Or use a VM or 86box, etc.

I'm installing on an AM2 board because...
1) I would like the capability of easy and straightforward downclocking via multiplier manipulation
2) I want a little more top end performance over an Athlon XP for things like nglide
3) I want to test compatibility with late DOS titles and PCI sound cards
4) I don't have a S939 or S754 board and CPU on hand, and I would prefer not to buy one unless I must

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Reply 22 of 27, by Qjimbo

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Yep, for me my interest is creating that Windows 98 dream machine. Remember how fast computers were becoming obsolete in the 90s? Well now using cheap parts you can build the ultimate Windows 98 compatible computer. It was the beacon of the golden age of multimedia CD-ROMs, the early days of the www, awesome 90s PC games.

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Reply 23 of 27, by an65001

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I've been trying to install Windows 98 SE using this method. I have a secondary machine that I wish to use for Windows 9x and older Operating systems. The machine is an FX-8320 with an M5a99FX Pro 2.0, socket AM3+ as the O.P. tested this with. 8GB RAM, and a 60GB SSD for install. Unfortunately, I run into a lot of issues when I go to install Windows 98.

-> When I install using the setup /p i switch, the OS seems to be installing normally with very little to no problems. But then, out of nowhere, SCANREG starts and claims that the registry is corrupt, and it can't fix it. The entire install is trashed for no apparent reason.

-> When I install using the setup /p j switch, which forces ACPI, the OS starts detecting devices and hangs. I then reboot into Safe Mode, remove the ACPI stuff, reboot again, and this time setup can successfully install the OS (there is still a registry error, but it gets fixed this time). Windows 98 also re-enables ACPI, and it works, partially. Unfortunately, Windows 98 in this config proves to be quite unstable, where even a small change in the USB devices could hang the system. However, by far this is the setup I've had the most success with.

-> When installing using setup /p a;b for safe and selective detection, I tried to mix the scenarios posed by the other trials. Unfortunately, I got the worst of the two, not only did it take much more to seemingly get running, but the SCANREG error creeped up and trashed the install.

In all cases, I've disabled the 32 bit file access drivers. I also tried with and without the RAM software (although I still don't see what it does, does it occupy the unused RAM to make 98 install easier?)

This is at 100% stock, factory CPU settings, no overclock, and SATA is on IDE mode.

What can I do to get Windows 98 to install correctly? In any non-ACPI mode case, it simply trashes the registry all by itself. In any ACPI case, it either works or simply hard locks.

Reply 24 of 27, by RayeR

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an65001 wrote:

I also tried with and without the RAM software (although I still don't see what it does, does it occupy the unused RAM to make 98 install easier?)

Win9x have troubles with too much RAM so it's necessary to limit XMS size to pretend Windows that the computer has less memory than it really has.

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Reply 25 of 27, by thenix

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So this is a super duper old thread but I'm trying to install Windows 98 on a more modern computer like this. I'm having trouble though. I swear I followed all the steps at the beginning and what I've gotten when I boot normally is a german message that pops up before the splash screen. Apparently it says "You already have a memory manager installed, would you like to install this anyways?" If I say yes it seems to install it quickly but then just stops on a blank screen afterwards. If I say no it goes to the windows 98 boot screen and freezes. Any tips to help me from this point?

Reply 27 of 27, by Horun

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If the board is Intel based ICH5 or earlier it can work, some ICH6 might work but above that it will not. Same with AMD, anything above AMD 760 most likely will not work. Note the OP says a AM3+ but does not specify the chipset...just from a little research....

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