Is the CD-ROM running off of the IDE controller or the AWE32?

Try connecting it as a slave on MOBO primary IDE or as a slave or master on secondary MOBO IDE. Good luck.

The CD-ROM is connected to the Mitsumi connector on the AWE32.

armankordi wrote:

The CD-ROM is connected to the Mitsumi connector on the AWE32.

And you've run it off the Mitsumi connector on another SB before I take it? I'm sorry if it seems like a stupid question.

This is an IDE CD-ROM drive. Don't connect it to Mitsumi CD interface unless you want to fry something.

Wansn't really an SB, was a Sound Galaxy Nova on 95'.

bristlehog wrote:

This is an IDE CD-ROM drive. Don't connect it to Mitsumi CD interface unless you want to fry something.

It says mitsumi on the drive label..?

armankordi wrote:

bristlehog wrote:

This is an IDE CD-ROM drive. Don't connect it to Mitsumi CD interface unless you want to fry something.

It says mitsumi on the drive label..?

I don't know much about this because I never connected a cd drive to a sound card but what I think he ment is its an IDE cd-rom drive. I'm guessing Mitsumi made cd drives that were IDE and some that used that special connector but there not the same thing?

Read up on CD-ROM interfaces:
Sony
Mitsumi
Matushita / Panasonic / Creative
LMSI / Philips

Many 1X & 2X CD-ROMs were proprietary back in the day (e.g. not IDE / ATAPI).

Virtually all 4X or higher CD-ROMs are SCSI or IDE / ATAPI. So a Mitsumi IDE goes on the IDE port: not the proprietary Mitsumi port.

The drive is 2X.

PeterLI wrote:

Read up on CD-ROM interfaces: Sony Mitsumi Matushita / Panasonic / Creative LMSI / Philips […]
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Read up on CD-ROM interfaces:
Sony
Mitsumi
Matushita / Panasonic / Creative
LMSI / Philips

Many 1X & 2X CD-ROMs were proprietary back in the day (e.g. not IDE / ATAPI).

Virtually all 4X or higher CD-ROMs are SCSI or IDE / ATAPI. So a Mitsumi IDE goes on the IDE port: not the proprietary Mitsumi port.

Exactly that. Most CD-ROM drives used the same 40-pin connector that IDE uses, but they were not compatible, hence why the interfaces on sound cards were labelled. But as PeterLI says, eventually CD-ROMs became IDE, even the Mitsumi ones. My first CD-ROM as a 4x Mitsumi drive, and it was IDE/ATAPI. I'm disregarding the SCSI ones now of course, as they used a 50-pin connector and couldn't possibly be mistaken for the IDE or proprietary ones. A CD-ROM being slower than 4x is not a guarantee of it not being IDE/ATAPI.
However, if it's been run off of a "Mitsumi" labelled interface on a different sound card, then it settles the matter. Which is why I asked. 😀

You know what's funny, I had the exact same drive.

I could never get it to work properly... when connected to the mitsumi interface it wouldn't do anything... when connected to a molex without the data connector connected it would open and close like normal. *shrug* I may have plugged it in backwards initially.

I think I got rid of it (which sucks because I like the slower drives so they don't sound like torpedoes).

I decided to take the old card and use it as a CD-ROM adapter.
It worked..
Thanks for the help, anyway guys.

One readme file in one of the driver disks for AWE32 says this:

1                          List of CD-ROM Drive Supported
2                          ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
3
4 ÉÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍËÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍËÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍËÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍËÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍ»
5 º  Manufacturer  º  CD-ROM Model  º MPC Level º  Device Driver  º Version º
6 ÇÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ×ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ×ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ×ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ×ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄĶ
7 º   CREATIVE     º     CR 521     º     I     º    SBCD.SYS     º  4.19   º
8 º                º                º           º                 º         º
9 º                º     CR 523     º     I     º                 º         º
10 º                º                º           º                 º         º
11 º                º     CR 563     º     II    º                 º         º
12 º                º (Double Speed) º           º                 º         º
13 ÇÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ×ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ×ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ×ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ×ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄĶ
14 º     SONY       º     CDU31A     º     I     º    SLCD.SYS     º  1.73a  º
15 º                º                º           º                 º         º
16 º                º     CDU33A     º     II    º                 º         º
17 ÇÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ×ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ×ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ×ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ×ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄĶ
18 º    MITSUMI     º   CRMC LU005S  º     I     º   MTMCDS.SYS    º  2.00a  º
19 º                º                º           º   MTMCDE.SYS    º  2.00a  º
20 ÇÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ×ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ×ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ×ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ×ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄĶ
21 º    MITSUMI     º   CRMC FX001   º     I     º  MTMCDAS.SYS    º  1.11$  º
22 º                º                º           º  MTMCDAE.SYS    º  1.11$  º
23 º                º   CRMC FX001D  º     II    º                 º         º
24 º                º (Double Speed) º           º                 º         º
25 ÈÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÊÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÊÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÊÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÊÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍŒ
26
27 Note : This list of CD-ROM Drivers are provided by Individual Hardware
28        Manufacturer.

So I would say your drive is not supported by the Mitsumi CD-ROM connection on your sound card.

PeterLI wrote:

Read up on CD-ROM interfaces: Sony Mitsumi Matushita / Panasonic / Creative LMSI / Philips […]
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Read up on CD-ROM interfaces:
Sony
Mitsumi
Matushita / Panasonic / Creative
LMSI / Philips

Many 1X & 2X CD-ROMs were proprietary back in the day (e.g. not IDE / ATAPI).

Virtually all 4X or higher CD-ROMs are SCSI or IDE / ATAPI. So a Mitsumi IDE goes on the IDE port: not the proprietary Mitsumi port.

It wasnt always the proprietary interface thats was used back in the days, also IDE exist then.If its was IDE, it doesnt says its ATAPI compatible.. Normal IDE drives where used on the IDE interface of the soundcard..
(these drives couldnt work on a controller card (ISA OR VLB) or IDE interface on the motherboard)
Why i know IDE also exist back in the days is because, those `goldstar` drives where very popular, and mostly it came bundled in a multimedia kit..

I have one of these goldstar GCD-R540C here and its really an IDE drive from november 1995.. IDE drives are recognizable by there CS/SL/MA setting behind the drive..

Mitsumi made indeed proprietary drives and IDE ones.. But i guess that IDE CD-ROM kits where more expensive then, so most people bought a proprietary drive kit instead.

The topic starter needs to connect that drive to an IDE only interface(on the soundcard or seperate CD-ROM IDE ISA BOARD. (but also that one from the soundcard requires an IDE cdrom driver to enable the drive.)

So mitsumi proprietary drives needs to connect to the mitsumi header, mitsumi IDE to the IDE interface.. If you are using the right cable, connected how it needs to be, have the right setting, have the right drivers, then the drive should work.

It's a 2X (double spin) IDE drive. Although it is not shown in the pictures provided, it's on a sticker on the back of the drive. There's no way this thing ever worked on a Mitsumi interface.

photo available here:

http://www.recycledgoods.com/mitsumi-crmc-fx0 … -rom-drive.html

Anonymous Coward wrote:

It's a 2X (double spin) IDE drive. Although it is not shown in the pictures provided, it's on a sticker on the back of the drive. There's no way this thing ever worked on a Mitsumi interface.

photo available here:

http://www.recycledgoods.com/mitsumi-crmc-fx0 … -rom-drive.html

Just read the FCC ID of the drive.. Then you can see its an IDE.. On the end its says 1DE.. but DE stands for IDE.. Or maybe see the 1 as an i.
An non IDE drive would be without the DE part.