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Reply 4480 of 4609, by eisapc

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DerBaum wrote on 2023-11-18, 17:33:
... now i need a ton of drives :D 11 caddys are for 300gb 10k sas drives and 2 caddys are for 146gb 15k sas drives. The system a […]
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now i need a ton of drives 😁
11 caddys are for 300gb 10k sas drives and 2 caddys are for 146gb 15k sas drives.
The system also takes regular sata drives... so i have a wide range of drives to choose from.
Of course i want the drives that are labeled on the front of the caddys! 😁

These SAS-drives are hard to find and often costly.
Most of them were used in professional installations and so data security is often an issue.
Second point is these drives often have hundreds of working hours allready and tend to fail soon.

I successfully use SATA SSDs as replacement for the 2,5" SAS-drives in my Proliant server.
Faster, bigger, cheaper, more reliable, lower power draw.

Reply 4481 of 4609, by PD2JK

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Got this machine from a relative.

One of the cheapest machines from the era. But good enough since the 'work'-load was quite low, it got switched on and off, once a week to do some administration for half an hour.

So not much runtime, and dust! 😁

A Target machine with:
PCPartner AP133BS3-909 board with on-board Creative ES1373 AudioPCI
Intel Celeron 400
32MB RAM (what were they thinking over there at Target)
SiS 6326 AGP graphics card
Samsung drive, maybe 4 gigs.
Windows 98 SE
40x speed optical drive and FDD.

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Reply 4482 of 4609, by DerBaum

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eisapc wrote on 2023-11-20, 06:35:
These SAS-drives are hard to find and often costly. Most of them were used in professional installations and so data security is […]
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DerBaum wrote on 2023-11-18, 17:33:
... now i need a ton of drives :D 11 caddys are for 300gb 10k sas drives and 2 caddys are for 146gb 15k sas drives. The system a […]
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now i need a ton of drives 😁
11 caddys are for 300gb 10k sas drives and 2 caddys are for 146gb 15k sas drives.
The system also takes regular sata drives... so i have a wide range of drives to choose from.
Of course i want the drives that are labeled on the front of the caddys! 😁

These SAS-drives are hard to find and often costly.
Most of them were used in professional installations and so data security is often an issue.
Second point is these drives often have hundreds of working hours allready and tend to fail soon.

I successfully use SATA SSDs as replacement for the 2,5" SAS-drives in my Proliant server.
Faster, bigger, cheaper, more reliable, lower power draw.

Its just for fun. Power consumption, speed and reliability are not that important.
I will not use a old beast like that for any real task.

The main reason i want mechanical HDDs is the sound. And the feeling how a system performed when it was new.

the 300gb 10k sas drives are around 5 to 10 bucks here for a roundabout 10 year old drive.
I also thought about getting a rack for my enterprise gear, but they are hard to get rid of when the time comes one day.

FCKGW-RHQQ2

Reply 4483 of 4609, by gerry

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PD2JK wrote on 2023-11-20, 07:40:
Got this machine from a relative. […]
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Got this machine from a relative.

One of the cheapest machines from the era. But good enough since the 'work'-load was quite low, it got switched on and off, once a week to do some administration for half an hour.

So not much runtime, and dust! 😁

A Target machine with:
PCPartner AP133BS3-909 board with on-board Creative ES1373 AudioPCI
Intel Celeron 400
32MB RAM (what were they thinking over there at Target)
SiS 6326 AGP graphics card
Samsung drive, maybe 4 gigs.
Windows 98 SE
40x speed optical drive and FDD.

a nice basic system, any plans for it?

it seems like a good basis for dos/win98 - just double (or quadruple) the ram to give 98 all it wants and maybe look at some extra storage

that board has usb i think so it's a nice base for retro with some convenience too

Reply 4484 of 4609, by theelf

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Hi! ok, this is not from dump, but is not for the thread "Bought these (retro) hardware today" is maybe in the middle

Some time ago, i went to a old computer store i know the owner, and he tell me he was going to retire and close the shop. He tellme have many thing in warehouse, that never used, and never sold from old 80s and 90s stock, and if i want to buy i will make a big favour to he, since he dont want to trash, but at same time, he did not want to sell over internet or in store (the guy is old, and dont want to deal with people anymore)

Finally we arrange a VERY LOW PRICE... like simbolic price.... thats why is in this thread, because is almost like find in trash...... jaja

Almost everything is brand new, or at least not used, some stuff damaged from storage but not more

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Reply 4485 of 4609, by BitWrangler

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Speccy!!!!

Awesome haul, my very very first computer ever, 48k spectrum and picked up a plus a few years later, and an Interface 1. Really really wanted to find a +3 with the 3.5 disk but never got my hands on one.

Unicorn herding operations are proceeding, but all the totes of hens teeth and barrels of rocking horse poop give them plenty of hiding spots.

Reply 4486 of 4609, by theelf

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BitWrangler wrote on 2023-11-20, 15:17:

Speccy!!!!

Awesome haul, my very very first computer ever, 48k spectrum and picked up a plus a few years later, and an Interface 1. Really really wanted to find a +3 with the 3.5 disk but never got my hands on one.

hehe i had Speccy on 80s too, lovely machine

next week i will carry morre stuff from warehouse, a +3 with 3.5inch disk, some more casettes, and a lot of Amiga 500+ stuff

Reply 4487 of 4609, by PD2JK

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gerry wrote on 2023-11-20, 15:02:
a nice basic system, any plans for it? […]
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PD2JK wrote on 2023-11-20, 07:40:
Got this machine from a relative. […]
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Got this machine from a relative.

One of the cheapest machines from the era. But good enough since the 'work'-load was quite low, it got switched on and off, once a week to do some administration for half an hour.

So not much runtime, and dust! 😁

A Target machine with:
PCPartner AP133BS3-909 board with on-board Creative ES1373 AudioPCI
Intel Celeron 400
32MB RAM (what were they thinking over there at Target)
SiS 6326 AGP graphics card
Samsung drive, maybe 4 gigs.
Windows 98 SE
40x speed optical drive and FDD.

a nice basic system, any plans for it?

it seems like a good basis for dos/win98 - just double (or quadruple) the ram to give 98 all it wants and maybe look at some extra storage

that board has usb i think so it's a nice base for retro with some convenience too

No plans for it yet. Maybe I'll donate it to the company I work for, build a retro gaming machine when colleagues are having a break, or for Friday late afternoons.

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Reply 4488 of 4609, by CrazyCatman

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theelf wrote on 2023-11-20, 15:08:
Finally we arrange a VERY LOW PRICE... like simbolic price.... thats why is in this thread, because is almost like find in trash […]
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Finally we arrange a VERY LOW PRICE... like simbolic price.... thats why is in this thread, because is almost like find in trash...... jaja

Almost everything is brand new, or at least not used, some stuff damaged from storage but not more

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So much nice stuff!

And Amiga 500 stuff is just my thing - I look forward to see what you get at that time! I wish I could find such an amazing deal.

So many computers, so little time...

Reply 4489 of 4609, by oh2ftu

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I got contacted on a local forum and received (free of charge) the following:
CPUs
- Celeron 366
- Celeron 433
- Celeron 466
- P3 cumine 1GHz (133FSB)
RAM:
- 256MB PC133
- 128MB PC133 CL3
- 2x 256MB PC133 CL3

Barebones
- What's left of a Compaq Deskpro EN (no cover, no drives, no PSU, custom power connector on motherboard)
- Panel EPC316 industrial "PC on a board" - Windows 2000 era. The CPU board seems to be PCI+ISA (probably 1GHz)

Motherboards:
Compaq Deskpro 401963-001 motherboard (https://www.ebay.de/itm/386126054310)
- Socket370
- Intel 810-DC100
- 5x PCI
- 2x ISA
- no AGP
- ITE IT8889F is a huge chip
- 2x DIMM
- Will post pics at some point

Gigabyte GA-6PMM (will post pics, there's none on TRW
I'm not fond of these Via chipsets (Via PM133)

Biostar M7IVG Pro-D (yesyes pics), Socket A

MSI MS-6340 Ver 5.0 with a Duron CPU.

I will post pics and test these during december. I'm quite busy and these will need a thorough clean before testing, probably new caps etc.

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Reply 4490 of 4609, by twiz11

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oh2ftu wrote on 2023-11-23, 19:35:
I got contacted on a local forum and received (free of charge) the following: CPUs - Celeron 366 - Celeron 433 - Celeron 466 - P […]
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I got contacted on a local forum and received (free of charge) the following:
CPUs
- Celeron 366
- Celeron 433
- Celeron 466
- P3 cumine 1GHz (133FSB)
RAM:
- 256MB PC133
- 128MB PC133 CL3
- 2x 256MB PC133 CL3

Barebones
- What's left of a Compaq desktop (no PSU, custom power connector on motherboard)
- Panel EPC316 industrial "PC on a board" - Windows 2000 era. The CPU board seems to be PCI+ISA (probably 1GHz)

Motherboards:
Compaq Deskpro 401963-001 motherboard (https://www.ebay.de/itm/386126054310)
- Socket370
- Intel 810-DC100
- 5x PCI
- 2x ISA
- no AGP
- ITE IT8889F is a huge chip
- 2x DIMM
- Will post pics at some point

Gigabyte GA-6PMM (will post pics, there's none on TRW
I'm not fond of these Via chipsets (Via PM133)

Biostar M7IVG Pro-D (yesyes pics), Socket A

MSI MS-6340 Ver 5.0 with a Duron CPU.

I will post pics and test these during december. I'm quite busy and these will need a thorough clean before testing, probably new caps etc.

would be awesome to see if you could turn them into part thin client because not alot of ram maybe for streaming from a game server. Or turn them into IoTs. Eh then again the hardware is so old its likely to have unpatchable bugs in the firmware so exposing it to the net is a terrible idea

iami

Reply 4491 of 4609, by alvaro84

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Most notable scrap find lately is a Shuttle HOT-555 which works and has managed to impress me, as it's a late revision. It has coin cell battery, supports dual voltage CPUS down to 2.8V, has both SIMM and DIMM sockets (not a given for a VX board), silkscreened 75MHz setting and I found in the docs that it can do 83 too, plays nice with an IDT C6 which my FX and TX boards can't seem to pull off, could mitigate ISA timing problems via IO latency settings in BIOS setup, and, where it's glaringly better than my previous VX board - it has a nice buck converter instead of a linear one with huge heat sinks. So it seems a keeper so far... Jury is still out for its 83mhz setting but even if it won't be perfectly stable, it's still better than the Soltek VX which it seems to replace...

Shame on us, doomed from the start
May God have mercy on our dirty little hearts

Reply 4492 of 4609, by Vynix

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alvaro84 wrote on 2023-11-25, 11:21:

Most notable scrap find lately is a Shuttle HOT-555 which works and has managed to impress me, as it's a late revision.

I have the same board (although in it's "555A" revision, the original 555 had a Dallas chip), there's a patched bios for it if you ever need to connect larger capacity hard drives.

Oh and whatever you try, there's an unlabeled jumper that mustn't be taken off, otherwise it will raise the CPU core voltage slightly, just enough to cause Pentium MMXes to start misbehaving.

Proud owner of a Shuttle HOT-555A 430VX motherboard and two wonderful retro laptops, namely a Compaq Armada 1700 [nonfunctional] and a HP Omnibook XE3-GC [fully working :p]

Reply 4493 of 4609, by Kahenraz

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theelf wrote on 2023-11-20, 15:08:
Hi! ok, this is not from dump, but is not for the thread "Bought these (retro) hardware today" is maybe in the middle […]
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Hi! ok, this is not from dump, but is not for the thread "Bought these (retro) hardware today" is maybe in the middle

Some time ago, i went to a old computer store i know the owner, and he tell me he was going to retire and close the shop. He tellme have many thing in warehouse, that never used, and never sold from old 80s and 90s stock, and if i want to buy i will make a big favour to he, since he dont want to trash, but at same time, he did not want to sell over internet or in store (the guy is old, and dont want to deal with people anymore)

Finally we arrange a VERY LOW PRICE... like simbolic price.... thats why is in this thread, because is almost like find in trash...... jaja

Almost everything is brand new, or at least not used, some stuff damaged from storage but not more

file.php?mode=view&id=178929

Very impressive! I have quite a few ZX81 Timex machines to play with, since Sinclair products have always been a curiosity of mine. There is a lot of fun to be had with the Spectrum and other early 8-bit computers.

Reply 4494 of 4609, by alvaro84

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Vynix wrote on 2023-11-25, 15:49:

I have the same board (although in it's "555A" revision, the original 555 had a Dallas chip), there's a patched bios for it if you ever need to connect larger capacity hard drives.

Oh and whatever you try, there's an unlabeled jumper that mustn't be taken off, otherwise it will raise the CPU core voltage slightly, just enough to cause Pentium MMXes to start misbehaving.

555A, yes, you're right. And thanks for the warning!
It's testing memory sticks right now with a Pentium Classic - another funny find, a P100 that can do 200MHz. It misbehaves at 208 though. Now it's set to 2x83. The sticks that can POST, boot then pass Gold Memory can stay. Then they have a decent chance to do 40 in a 486 too.

Shame on us, doomed from the start
May God have mercy on our dirty little hearts

Reply 4495 of 4609, by dionb

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Last Thursday I found an Aztech MR2800 AMR modem on my desk at work 😜

None of my colleagues know who put it there, but all know of my proclivities for vintage stuff. Still, don't think this will be getting much use - aside from my long-term ambition to get a POTS modem system running here being decidedly low-priority, I already have another MR2800 and I don't think I currently have any working boards with the AMR slot...

Reply 4496 of 4609, by PD2JK

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Now get CNR, ACR and PCI as well and play quartet. 😁

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Reply 4497 of 4609, by dionb

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PD2JK wrote on 2023-11-26, 12:31:

Now get CNR, ACR and PCI as well and play quartet. 😁

😜

Well, I could stick the second MR2800 into an ACR slot, I suppose...

Reply 4498 of 4609, by Jasin Natael

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smtkr wrote on 2023-11-19, 21:13:
Jasin Natael wrote on 2023-11-15, 16:53:
gerry wrote on 2023-11-15, 16:37:

it is indeed! looks ready to plug in and go, PCs like this in good shape are becoming rarer

That black optical drive has got to go though.

mismatched colours are period correct though

That is true.....I just hate it though, 🤣.

Reply 4499 of 4609, by PD2JK

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Another 'machine' saved from the bin.

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Turns out it's an Athlon Thunderbird B 1200 MHz (100FSB), Biostar M7VKB, 2x 64 + 256 MB RAM and a GeForce2 MX. Still needs testing if anything works...

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