I thought EF2000 needs to run from a Windows reboot into Dos to work in 3dfx mode?

You could try Fatal racing(Whiplash) which works perfectly on my voodoo1 in Dos on my Abit KT7-raid. I recently had major problems with the Voodoo1
in my Pc chips motherboard, in Dos and Win98, maybe it and the SIS chipset don't get along?
I originally, years ago, had a P200mmx with an Intel HX chipset and a Voodoo1, and I remember EF2000 working very nicely. I never played it much though, as
I have never really had enough patience to master flight sims.
Powerslide is another Windows game that works very smoothly on a Voodoo1.

"Archimedian Dynasty" works great with Win98se an Voodoo3 + Voodoo1.
I have copied the old Diamond-V1-Drivers in the Game Directory and
use "Deamon-Tools" to mount the CD.

EF2000 wasn't really smooth on my K6-3 400 and Voodoo 1, never mind a 200MMX. I'm guessing around 20fps.
I suspect it may be limited by the graphics hardware.
I changed to a Voodoo2 and it was much better, 30-60fps.
I think our perception of "smooth" has changed too over the years 😎

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EF2000 wasn't really smooth on my K6-3 400 and Voodoo 1, never mind a 200MMX. I'm guessing around 20fps. I suspect it may be lim […]
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EF2000 wasn't really smooth on my K6-3 400 and Voodoo 1, never mind a 200MMX. I'm guessing around 20fps.
I suspect it may be limited by the graphics hardware.
I changed to a Voodoo2 and it was much better, 30-60fps.
I think our perception of "smooth" has changed too over the years 😎

That is very true 😁

bjt wrote:

EF2000 wasn't really smooth on my K6-3 400 and Voodoo 1, never mind a 200MMX. I'm guessing around 20fps.

I've got a strong suspicion that I've been spoiled by modern hardware and simply don't remember things accurately. The last time I sat down to play EF2000 seriously was probably back in 1998.

bjt wrote:

I suspect it may be limited by the graphics hardware.
I changed to a Voodoo2 and it was much better, 30-60fps.
I think our perception of "smooth" has changed too over the years 😎

I very much suspect that this is exactly the case. Now that I've got this system running again, I feel like I should test it or something. Since EF2000 is static-link, there's not much tweaking one can do for it. However, games like HIND and Dungeon Keeper D3D aren't static-link and should probably run much better. For those two games, the transformation from software to 3D is very dramatic, so maybe I'm expecting too much from the P200 MMX and Voodoo 1. I mean, the hardware-accelerated versions of the games barely even resemble the software-rendered originals.

Didn't 3dfx release some kind of benchmark called Wizmark at some point? Don't know if it's of any use but I think it's still available at falconfly.de, maybe try posting your score to compare it with our PMMX/200 builds. Can confirm EF2000 not being smooth at my Pentium 1/MGA Mil4mb/Voodoo1 6mb rig though.

final reality is good for a v1

psychz wrote:

Didn't 3dfx release some kind of benchmark called Wizmark at some point? Don't know if it's of any use but I think it's still available at falconfly.de, maybe try posting your score to compare it with our PMMX/200 builds. Can confirm EF2000 not being smooth at my Pentium 1/MGA Mil4mb/Voodoo1 6mb rig though.

I was able to find WizMark at 3dfxzone.it

The instructions for WizMark contain some benchmark results after three loops, so I decided to follow their suggestion. Here are my results:

wizmark -times 3
18559.28
18641.76
18692.20
18631.08 Average

wizmark -lite -times 3
298.89
296.26
295.56
296.90 Average

I've never seen the WizMark benchmark tool before, so it was very interesting to watch it run. Thanks very much for the tip!

Thank you everybody for for your comments and suggestions! If anybody else happens upon this thread and would like to contribute WizMark results, it could be good for future reference.

Not a fair comparison obviously, but I underclocked my Athlon XP Barton to 450mhz and ran Wizmark. AT 550mhz the Voodoo1 chucked a fit and gave me that
screen with the blocks that You get with too fast a cpu. My Diamond Monster card was running at 57mhz. I'll just paste in the stat file results

Time: 21.88
Frames Per Second: 48.40
Benchmark Value: 53676.01

Time: 22.08
Frames Per Second: 47.96
Benchmark Value: 53189.81

Time: 21.91
Frames Per Second: 48.33
Benchmark Value: 53602.51

AVERAGED BENCHMARK VALUE= 53489.44

Lite results
Time: 16.80
Frames Per Second: 63.04
Benchmark Value: 819.46
9
Time: 16.25
Frames Per Second: 65.17
Benchmark Value: 847.20

Time: 16.88
Frames Per Second: 62.74
Benchmark Value: 815.58

AVERAGED BENCHMARK VALUE= 827.41

I also ran Quake1 timedemo1 and got 40.5fps. Cpu again running at 450mhz

I overclocked my P200 MMX to 233mhz and got these results:

wizmark -times 3
20332.95
20350.56
20269.78
20317.76 Average

wizmark -lite -times 3
281.48
281.59
279.70
280.92 Average

How interesting that the lite benchmark gives worse results when my CPU is overclocked.

EF2000 runs ever-so-slightly smoother with the CPU overclocked at 233mhz. I wonder if it's worth it to get a real P233 MMX, or if I should just overclock this one as necessary.

a real one will not get you any better results, upping the fsb will so 3x 75mhz or 3x 83mhz would be much better if your board can do that. Also a voodoo2 should be a little quicker as it is a little easier on the cpu.